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[ImperialKnight]

Mech Bays are worth it for new players, it's slightly better than 50%% off 150MC deals. Just enough to keep the lights on but not enough to give PGI too much money until they actually decide to work on the game again

[Domenoth]

TLDR:

• MC Best Deal: 2-for-1 is better than the usual +30% sales
  
• Mechbays Best Deal: Buy any 2-for-1 MC and wait for a 50% off Mechbays sale (save up to $2.10 per 13 Mechbays)
  
• GSP Best Deal: Buy any 2-for-1 MC tier and wait until GSP is 50% off In Game (save up to $5 per 400 GSP)
  
• North Pole Best Deal: Buy any 2-for-1 MC tier except the lowest tier and wait for 50% off sales (save less than $2 per bundle)
  
• The Nutcracker: Buy any 2-for-1 MC tier except the lowest tier and wait for 50% off sales (save up to $3 per bundle)

Maths:

MC often has +30% sales:

• 1,250 MC + 375 MC = 1,625 MC ($1 = 233 MC)
  
• 3,000 MC + 900 MC = 3,900 MC ($1 = 261 MC)
  
• 6,500 MC + 1,950 MC = 8,450 MC ($1 = 282 MC)
  
• 12,000 MC + 3,600 MC = 15,600 MC ($1 = 312 MC)
  
• 25,000 MC + 7,500 MC = 32,500 MC ($1 = 325 MC)

But there's 2-for-1 on codes right now:

• 1,250 MC + 1,250 MC = 2,500 MC ($1 = 359 MC)
  
• 3,000 MC + 3,000 MC = 6,000 MC ($1 = 401 MC)
  
• 6,500 MC + 6,500 MC = 13,000 MC ($1 = 434 MC)
  
• 12,000 MC + 12,000 MC = 24,000 MC ($1 = 480 MC)
  
• 25,000 MC + 25,000 MC = 50,000 MC ($1 = 500 MC)

Best +30% MC Rate = 325 MC per $1
Best 2-for-1 MC Rate = 500 MC per $1

13 Mechbays (assuming best 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game (300 MC * 13) = $7.80
  
• 50% off sale (150 MC * 13) = $3.90
  
• MRS CLAUS' BAKERS DOZEN = $6

13 Mech Bays (assuming worst 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game (300 MC * 13) = $10.86
  
• 50% off sale (150 MC * 13) = $5.43
  
• MRS CLAUS' BAKERS DOZEN = $6

400 GSP (assuming best 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game (1,250 MC + 1,250 MC + 1,250 MC + 1,250 MC) = $10
  
• 50% off sale (625 MC + 625 MC + 625 MC + 625 MC) = $5
  
• 2-for-1 sale: $10

400 GSP (assuming worst 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game (1,250 MC + 1,250 MC + 1,250 MC + 1,250 MC) = $13.93
  
• 50% off sale (625 MC + 625 MC + 625 MC + 625 MC) = $6.96
  
• 2 for 1 sale: $10

North Pole Special (assuming best 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game ($5 + $3.48 + $5) = $13.48
  
• 50% off sale ($2.50 + $3.48 + $2.50) = $8.48
  
• North Pole Special = $10

North Pole Special (assuming worst 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game ($6.96 + $3.48 + $6.96) = $17.40
  
• 50% off sale ($3.48 + $3.48 + $3.48) = $10.44
  
• North Pole Special = $10

The Nutcracker (assuming best 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game ($10 + $7.48 + $5) = $22.48
  
• 50% off sale ($5 + $7.48 + $2.50) = $14.98
  
• The Nutcracker = $18

The Nutcracker (assuming worst 2-for-1 MC tier rate):

• In Game ($13.92 + $7.48 + $6.96) = $28.36
  
• 50% off sale ($6.96 + $7.48 + $3.48) = $17.92
  
• The Nutcracker = $18

[w0qj]

So is your Battlemaster BLR-1G(S) bonus +30% C-Bills bonus, and without the +10% Loyalty Bonus that the Phoenix Variant has?

Angrius Windstorm, on 15 December 2020 - 07:22 PM, said:

Very nice deals. Just purchased the Battlemaster bundle.

[AnAnachronismAlive]

Thanks a lot, Matt! Decent(ly priced) ideas and a good starting point for further themed packages.

Nice to see some of the feedback-ideas being incorporated, even if it is only a test balloon for now. Feels like we are gettin' somewhere step by step! Keep going and we'll keep going ... hopefully towards a brighter future MWO-wise!

Edited by AnAnachronismAlive, 16 December 2020 - 02:10 AM.

[Zulu211]

Krovakon, on 15 December 2020 - 02:24 PM, said:

So all of the non-mech deals are very respectably priced and absolutely worth it if any single part of them catches your eye. For the mech packs, I can say that either of the light mech bundles are 100% worth it simply for the additional stuff they throw in, even if you don't care about the mech itself. For the mediums, it's a very good deal if you're interested in the mechs. at Heavy and Assaults it becomes less of a great deal since the free rewards don't scale up so unless you really want that specific hero now or the camouflage pattern for the IS mechs, you can safely skip on it and buy it during a hero sale for ~1/3rd the price of the bundle. Not bad, not great. Definitely hit up any or all of those non-mech bundles though.

The only thing I would add to this is; the Scorch is arguably the best Hero in this game.

[Nehkrosis]

Just C-Bills bonus, and slightly unique geometry

[IQwrassler]

Bolt-ons are not working with the (S) variants in the bundles

Can anyone else confirm?

[Kodan Black]

As someone who enjoys the colors, decals, and cockpit items I appreciate the customization package. Would love to see more of those with different colors and items around the same price point.

[RAM]

w0qj, on 16 December 2020 - 12:00 AM, said:

So is your Battlemaster BLR-1G(S) bonus +30% C-Bills bonus, and without the +10% Loyalty Bonus that the Phoenix Variant has?

Correct. Chassis bonus is +30% CBill only (and no Snowfall camo unlock either)


RAM
ELH

[F4CTOR]

It's amazing how many of y'all will still complain and whine no matter what PGI throws down. For some of you it will simply never be enough and that says more about you than the devs themselves...

[ChardunZer0]

Any of the mechs a great deal to buy? I've recently come back to the game after a 2 year break, and other than the Scorch and maybe the Hunchback IIC, I don't own any of them. I was eyeballing the IS mechs, but I'm not sure if there are any I should just plan avoid, or that have horrible perks for that chassis. Thanks for the help!

[Krovakon]

ChardunZer0, on 17 December 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

Any of the mechs a great deal to buy? I've recently come back to the game after a 2 year break, and other than the Scorch and maybe the Hunchback IIC, I don't own any of them. I was eyeballing the IS mechs, but I'm not sure if there are any I should just plan avoid, or that have horrible perks for that chassis. Thanks for the help!

The shadowhawk is a good pick if you don't own that variant. It can run some pretty fun builds (Triple RAC2) and at $12 the extra stuff it comes with almost pays for itself. The Scorch is okay if you really don't want to wait for a mech sale or that's the only hero mech you're interested in. Otherwise I'd recommend buying the $15 MC gift package while the buy 1 get 1 free gift promo is going on. You'll get 6,000MC for $15 and the scorch on sale costs 3190MC (like $8) leaving you 2,810MC leftover to buy another hero mech with or a bunch of mechbays.

[ChardunZer0]

Krovakon, on 17 December 2020 - 02:48 PM, said:

The shadowhawk is a good pick if you don't own that variant. It can run some pretty fun builds (Triple RAC2) and at $12 the extra stuff it comes with almost pays for itself. The Scorch is okay if you really don't want to wait for a mech sale or that's the only hero mech you're interested in. Otherwise I'd recommend buying the $15 MC gift package while the buy 1 get 1 free gift promo is going on. You'll get 6,000MC for $15 and the scorch on sale costs 3190MC (like $8) leaving you 2,810MC leftover to buy another hero mech with or a bunch of mechbays.

Thanks. I don't have many IS mechs so that's what I'm eyeballing here for a quick grab. That and I like the camo scheme with the mechs too. I already have a bunch of Clan mechs from the last time I played, so I'm trying to diversify a little with the sales going on. I've already grabbed the Locust mastery bundle for a Pirate's Bane.

Thanks again!

[ImperialKnight]

ChardunZer0, on 17 December 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

Any of the mechs a great deal to buy? I've recently come back to the game after a 2 year break, and other than the Scorch and maybe the Hunchback IIC, I don't own any of them. I was eyeballing the IS mechs, but I'm not sure if there are any I should just plan avoid, or that have horrible perks for that chassis. Thanks for the help!

in terms of combat effectiveness, only the Scorch is worth any consideration.

in terms of value, it depends where you are in the game. if you're new, the GSP and Premium Time has some value. GSP is nice to kick start a brand new mech to get it up to minimal viability (don't blow all the GSP on mastering 1 mech), and Premium Time is nice for racking up your CBill wallet. For veterans they're kind of useless.

New players can consider the Mech bundles, but for vets they're better off getting the MC 1-for-1 and waiting for 50% sales

[NocturnalBeast]

Will9761, on 15 December 2020 - 02:50 PM, said:

Ok, I gotta admit, it's pretty cool to see the Project Phoenix Mechs return as Special mechs for an opportunity to players that didn't get the chance the first time or want to get them.

I don't like this, it is shady when developers charge a premium for one-time "unique" items that are advertised as never going to be available again and then turn around and re-release them. They do things like this in Fortnite all the time and you should read the backlash they get.

Edited by Ed Steele, 17 December 2020 - 08:25 PM.

[w0qj]

+1

[Almost_Exasperated]
Folks complaining (despite the semi-regular 30% Off sales) MWO mech packages are 'expensive'.
Then MWO introduces more pocket/value friendly packages like this Christmas season, and some folks are saying prices 'barely keeps the lights on at MWO'.
[/Almost_Exasperated]

Anyways, here's to hoping that MWO/PGI gives a genuine push to get new idea/contents into MWO game itself in the year of 2021 !

F4CTOR, on 17 December 2020 - 11:13 AM, said:

It's amazing how many of y'all will still complain and whine no matter what PGI throws down. For some of you it will simply never be enough and that says more about you than the devs themselves...

[w0qj]

It depends on your playstyle, and what Assault/Heavy/Medium/Light mechs you wish to play regularly.

The 85ton BattleMaster BLR-1G(S) has some amazing quirks, if you are into energy weapons Assaults with some ballastics and some missiles.
+20% Range for Medium Lasers (basically turns them into ER-Medium Lasers, but less heat!)
-5% Medium Laser Heat
~For all other energy weapons +10% Range
+20% PPC velocity
+15% Ballistic Cooldown
+10% Ballistic Range
Quite agile for 85ton IS Assault!

ChardunZer0, on 17 December 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

Any of the mechs a great deal to buy? I've recently come back to the game after a 2 year break, and other than the Scorch and maybe the Hunchback IIC, I don't own any of them. I was eyeballing the IS mechs, but I'm not sure if there are any I should just plan avoid, or that have horrible perks for that chassis. Thanks for the help!

[Will9761]

Ed Steele, on 17 December 2020 - 08:25 PM, said:

I don't like this, it is shady when developers charge a premium for one-time "unique" items that are advertised as never going to be available again and then turn around and re-release them. They do things like this in Fortnite all the time and you should read the backlash they get.

I don't see anything wrong with it. It's not like they are bringing out the 2 extra standard variants, colors, nor cockpit items this time. I remember all too well how PGI made a poll about bringing the mechs back and how it was smacked down. But bringing out the only [P] variants for people who still want them isn't really that bad.

[w0qj]

I actually want to buy this Phoenix Variant of BattleMaster BLR-1G(P).
It's been seven (7) real life years since its release in 2013, and I was not around to buy it back then.

Will9761, on 17 December 2020 - 09:03 PM, said:

...But bringing out the only [P] variants for people who still want them isn't really that bad.

Edited by w0qj, 17 December 2020 - 09:11 PM.

[n00biwan]

Out of curiosity, what's the logic behind the blr being $20 and scorch and maul being $16?