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[Vlad Ward]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 09:24 AM, said:

meh, in those dayz they called it rotating
Maps are bigger to day
so it was relabeled NASCAR

Dude. People were calling stuff "NASCAR" back when Assault was the only game mode.

[The pessimistic optimist]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 09:24 AM, said:

meh, in those dayz they called it rotating
Maps are bigger to day
so it was relabeled NASCAR

It mostly a lot of the time when you look at the doritos on the map they are in a very lose oval shape

Edited by SirSmokes, 22 January 2021 - 09:27 AM.

[General Solo]

SirSmokes, on 18 January 2021 - 01:43 PM, said:

No

That it , no other supporting evidense
wp
gg

Bede19002, on 18 January 2021 - 03:54 PM, said:

Does “NASCAR” mean running as quickly as you can to get to the enemy?

I find that when I do that I end up dead very quickly.

Not sure why people would knowingly do it.

Well your doing it wrong
apparently
Obviously

Wolfos31, on 19 January 2021 - 06:27 AM, said:

Nascar keeps happening because it's effective. And it's not "nascar" it's flanking. An ancient and effective military tactic. It's never gonna go away folks. So better to understand what it actually is, why it's effective, and how to counter it.

I like this

Hazeclaw, on 19 January 2021 - 08:28 AM, said:

nascar is not flanking, nascar is when your team encounters the enemy to the left, turns right and runs away counter clockwise everyone going their top speed whether it's 40kph or 150kph hoping their back is not the first to get shot out, nascar comes from cowardice and selfishness, it results in a team leaving power positions, holding which would significantly increase the chances of victory, if the enemy team holds the line against the nascar, especially in a power position, the nascar is doomed, because it inevitably spreads out due to the various speeds of mechs so the defending team has a 1) power position 2) pre aiming to where the nascar will come from and most importantly 3) numerical advantage in the fight as the enemy team tries to nascar into them, fastest mechs, first, then average speed mechs, and finally the slowest mechs

flanking is when your team encounters the enemy team, both sides dig in and start trading, and your 2-4 fastest mechs split off and go around the enemy to hit them in the back coordinated with additional pressure from the main force at the front, mostly differing from nascar in that you do not give up strong positions with your main body, and the line fighting mechs: assaults, heavies, mediums (except fast skirmishing mediums which can be flanking too) stay together and never show their backs to the enemy, so you still have an 8+ mech force that has guns towards enemy front line

So where did nascar touch you?
So thats why stay in Faction queue
Good to noe

Vlad Ward, on 22 January 2021 - 09:25 AM, said:

Dude. People were calling stuff "NASCAR" back when Assault was the only game mode.

Yeah
Mmm
I learnt sumthing, my brain hurtz

[The pessimistic optimist]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 09:37 AM, said:

That it , no other supporting evidense
wp
gg

Still no

[General Solo]

More data points
Please

[The pessimistic optimist]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 09:40 AM, said:

More data points
Please

I can't distill 8 years of experience of playing this game in to a data point. Also your a normie and you are not understanding things as well as you think. If anyone here can read this let me know https://pbs.twimg.co...pg&name=900x900

[General Solo]

I read that and disagree

90 beats 60 in my book Norman

Edited by General Solo, 22 January 2021 - 10:00 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 09:59 AM, said:

I read that and disagree

90 beats 60 in my book Norman

What did it say

[General Solo]

Something Something Something
Cant say
Its above most peoples pay grade

[The pessimistic optimist]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 10:14 AM, said:

Something Something Something
Cant say
Its above most peoples pay grade

UMMMM no you can't read it

[K O Z A K]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 09:37 AM, said:

So where did nascar touch you?
So thats why stay in Faction queue
Good to noe

That makes no sense...the same place it has everyone else I guess? Hence the never ending complaining about it

Yes, that is why I mostly play FP these days. I like fighting enemy groups, not running around in circles farming tier 5 solo backsides, too ez

[The pessimistic optimist]

Hazeclaw, on 22 January 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

That makes no sense...the same place it has everyone else I guess? Hence the never ending complaining about it

Yes, that is why I mostly play FP these days. I like fighting enemy groups, not running around in circles farming tier 5 solo backsides, too ez

What this man said

[Vlad Ward]

I find there's a lot less NASCAR in T1/T2 when I play during EU and OC prime times. What's going on with NA?

[General Solo]

Hazeclaw, on 22 January 2021 - 10:39 AM, said:

That makes no sense...the same place it has everyone else I guess? Hence the never ending complaining about it

Yes, that is why I mostly play FP these days. I like fighting enemy groups, not running around in circles farming tier 5 solo backsides, too ez

T1's don't play T5's
If you played QP you would know this
And would improve your NASCAR skills as well

Go to your safe place
Faction whats it called again?

[Vlad Ward]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 11:01 AM, said:

T1's don't play T5's
If you played QP you would know this
And would improve your NASCAR skills as well

Go to your safe place
Faction whats it called again?

Nah man you don't understand, any time two or more T5s use the group feature they combine and transform into T1 Premade-Voltron

Edited by Vlad Ward, 22 January 2021 - 11:20 AM.

[K O Z A K]

General Solo, on 22 January 2021 - 11:01 AM, said:

T1's don't play T5's
If you played QP you would know this
And would improve your NASCAR skills as well

Go to your safe place
Faction whats it called again?

I do play qp. Not a lot, it's too easy and stupid most of the time. T5s absolutely play with T1s, you would know this if you stopped nascaring for a second and actually saw what was happening in the drop. Nascar skills, lmfao

[R Valentine]

SirSmokes, on 22 January 2021 - 08:53 AM, said:

Why conquest is the best game mode

If it was possible to only queue for conquest, I would. The mode is superior in every way to skirmish, assault, and domination. Domination is just skirmish in one tiny area of the map, and assault allows you ignore one or two mechs capping your base for the entire match, or at least until you've killed every other enemy. Conquests affords you none of those idiocies and forces you to utilize other parts of the map.

[General Solo]

Vlad Ward, on 22 January 2021 - 11:20 AM, said:

Nah man you don't understand, any time two or more T5s use the group feature they combine and transform into T1 Premade-Voltron

Nah they just play exactly the same as they would playing Solo, mostly

I have seen this many many times
I was in a unit with many T4 and 5's playing Faction and group que, lol dem were the dayz
Don't get me wrong, we had a T1,2,3 vanguard 12 mans too, but they were not always available

So many times we had a bunch of T4 and T5 buddies in the group.
So one can see how they play
They play different

From what I seen, their biggest weaknesses is that they don't have the situational awareness to really make use of their grouping up

So yeah they mostly play the same as they do playing alone
This is my POV and experience

[General Solo]

Hazeclaw, on 22 January 2021 - 11:35 AM, said:

I do play qp. Not a lot, it's too easy and stupid most of the time. T5s absolutely play with T1s, you would know this if you stopped nascaring for a second and actually saw what was happening in the drop. Nascar skills, lmfao

Too Busy Winning with guid nascar

But I agree with your point about the Match maker open valves thing, but isn't it just a 3 tier spread?

So T1 still don't meet T5
New cadets are T4 or T5 now
And I have not seen one in a while

So maybe you are in error

Kiran Yagami, on 22 January 2021 - 12:31 PM, said:

If it was possible to only queue for conquest, I would. The mode is superior in every way to skirmish, assault, and domination. Domination is just skirmish in one tiny area of the map, and assault allows you ignore one or two mechs capping your base for the entire match, or at least until you've killed every other enemy. Conquests affords you none of those idiocies and forces you to utilize other parts of the map.

I like all the modes, Part of the game is adapting to each imo
As each has unique aspects that allow you to own other people who don't pay Attention!...Ain't that right MR Potter?

Some examples are:

Skirmish - Kill everything and don't die, rotate/meatshield when your armour is low to stay alive and keep shooting the enemy till the field is cleared.

Conquest and Skirmish - Can't complete objectives if your teams dead. Objective is to WIN
Those other so called objectives are actually winning conditions
Don't forget clear the field of enemy mechs is a equally valid winning condition

With exceptions, clear the field asap, then you have time for objectives/winning conditions


Conquest - If you are very much behind on caps and the red team is dead, unred the enemy caps to stop the cap counter entirely, rather than boost friendly caps.

Domination - For Circle Yolo Warriors, you don't have to be in the circle to stop the domination counter clock, just shoot an enemy in the circle and the counter stops counting for 5 or so seconds

So I think having different modes is good for game play variety

Now some may say, your owning people your a bad man.
My reply would be:
No, Match Maker did it or the Butler

Edited by General Solo, 22 January 2021 - 08:05 PM.

[PocketYoda]

dario03, on 17 January 2021 - 06:35 AM, said:

How can mediums be by far weaker when the Vulcan is a better light than lights?

Vulcans don't have the lag shield that lights do.. Mediums as a whole are far inferior to all other classes in MWO, sure you can cherry pick but mediums are the least played mechs.. for a reason.

Try using a vulcan against a Piranha.

SirSmokes, on 22 January 2021 - 09:55 AM, said:

I can't distill 8 years of experience of playing this game in to a data point. Also your a normie and you are not understanding things as well as you think. If anyone here can read this let me know https://pbs.twimg.co...pg&name=900x900

Its says people can still read it as the mind doesn't read all the letters in a word.. according to the Cambridge University, they figured it out.

Edited by Samial, 22 January 2021 - 09:52 PM.