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#1 Antares102

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 12:33 AM

EDIT: smurfy is up again

Strange that nobody did a thread about that yet.
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ is dead for a few days now.
Is it shut down? Does anybody know anything? RIP?

Where can one now get the entire equipment table and especially ghost heat scales from?
The only place I know would be this:
https://mwomercs.com.../list/full.json
which is quite cumbersome to work with.

Edited by Antares102, 07 April 2021 - 08:26 AM.


#2 martian

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 01:12 AM

View PostAntares102, on 05 April 2021 - 12:33 AM, said:

Rip Mwo.smurfy-Net.de (?)

Strange that nobody did a thread about that yet.
https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ is dead for a few days now.
Is it shut down? Does anybody know anything? RIP?



Sad news.

Smurfy has always been my go-to site for designing new 'Mech builds.

I know that there are one or two similar sites, but I really liked the Smurfy's 'MechLab layout.

#3 Meep Meep

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 01:44 AM

It's possible the owners are going to update the database and decided it was easier to simply shut down the site until them. It was already out of date to begin with.

Until then there is the cauldron site but it has the future changes already in play. https://thecauldron.nav-alpha.com/

#4 martian

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 01:50 AM

View PostAntares102, on 05 April 2021 - 12:33 AM, said:

https://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ is dead for a few days now.
Is it shut down? Does anybody know anything? RIP?

You can use this e-mail to ask the owner:
mwostats@smurfy.de


#5 The6thMessenger

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 03:21 AM

I honestly prefer Smurfy. It's easier to find mechs, a bit easier in the eyes too.

#6 w0qj

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 03:42 AM

You're amongst the first ones to discover smurfy-net.de is down...

Smurfy-net.de was definitely up on 2-April-2021,
just before the Easter long weekend holidays...

There's another forum thread asking for alternatives to smurfy.de
http://mwomercs.com/...ves-to-smurfyde

A GREAT loss IMHO...

Edited by w0qj, 05 April 2021 - 08:52 AM.


#7 Gagis

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 03:53 AM

MechDB has made smurfy's mechlab obsolete years ago. In addition to the theorycrafting fork linked earlier, there's still the basic version available: https://mech.nav-alpha.com/

#8 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 05:56 AM

View PostGagis, on 05 April 2021 - 03:53 AM, said:

MechDB has made smurfy's mechlab obsolete years ago. In addition to the theorycrafting fork linked earlier, there's still the basic version available: https://mech.nav-alpha.com/



Mech DB is great, but Smurfy carried/carries the ghost heat and equipment information in a better format.

Would be so nice if MWO actually had tables for the Ghost Heat categories.....
What a crazy idea to have the game maker actually share the rules for how the game is supposed to work.

#9 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 06:15 AM

View PostRemover of Obstacles, on 05 April 2021 - 05:56 AM, said:

Mech DB is great, but Smurfy carried/carries the ghost heat and equipment information in a better format.


Exactly. that's the gap in Mech DB that has had me continue using Smurfy. if Mech DB would have equipment stats instantly handy like Smurfy, there would be no debate.

#10 Antares102

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 07:44 AM

View PostGagis, on 05 April 2021 - 03:53 AM, said:

MechDB has made smurfy's mechlab obsolete years ago. In addition to the theorycrafting fork linked earlier, there's still the basic version available: https://mech.nav-alpha.com/


I would disagree, smurfy still had all the equipment listed and the ghost heat table which mechdb doesnt have.
(And I know mechdb for a long time.)

#11 Ken Harkin

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 08:22 AM

Nooooo!!!!!!

#12 w0qj

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 08:37 AM

Smurfy Web Archive snapshots dated Nov-2020 for equipment & mech chasis/variant layout. Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

http://web.archive.o...et.de/equipment

http://web.archive.o...o.smurfy-net.de

View PostAntares102, on 05 April 2021 - 07:44 AM, said:

I would disagree, smurfy still had all the equipment listed and the ghost heat table which mechdb doesnt have.
(And I know mechdb for a long time.)

Edited by w0qj, 05 April 2021 - 08:50 AM.


#13 Ch_R0me

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 11:42 AM

Well... Now how we could retrieve the exported builds, if possible...

#14 LordNothing

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 11:51 AM

i think mechdb has replaced it. but smurfy still had a lot of mech and weapon stats (likely out of date) that mechdb hasnt really implemented yet. made it easy to look up obscure things like ghost heat penalties and limits. hint hint mechdb devs.

that said i have transitioned to the mechdb for all my mech build theory crafting.

Edited by LordNothing, 05 April 2021 - 11:56 AM.


#15 Napoleon_Blownapart

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 11:59 AM

I was building mechs there a couple days ago but couldm't yesterday.

#16 FupDup

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Posted 05 April 2021 - 12:37 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 05 April 2021 - 03:21 AM, said:

I honestly prefer Smurfy. It's easier to find mechs, a bit easier in the eyes too.

I like Smurfy for quickly looking up weapon and item stats. MechDB makes that bit take longer.

#17 w0qj

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Posted 06 April 2021 - 02:37 PM

Smurfy website is up again, at least as of right now 7-April-2021 !

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment

******For those who still have "saved" mech layouts, now is the time to secure these for prosperity!

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Personally, I'm still hoping/wishing that Smurfy.de would stay around and update its values to reflect the weapons/equipment for that 20-April-2021 patch, and update mech list for the new mechs (MAD-9M, KGC-001, WHM-9D, CPLT-C2, as well as the Stryker Booster Pack TDR-10SE, DRG-1G).

IMHO, for Weapons/Equipment stats & Ghost Heat, there Smurfy.de is simply unique in its easy to use/access presentation! No other MWO related website even comes close to its usefulness!

Edited by w0qj, 06 April 2021 - 02:58 PM.


#18 Ch_R0me

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Posted 06 April 2021 - 10:31 PM

Well, let's get started to "transplant" Smurfy builds to the MechDB, to be certain... ;)

Once, I could even "import" the build to one Android app, but it's currently EOL.

#19 martian

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Posted 06 April 2021 - 10:37 PM

View Postw0qj, on 06 April 2021 - 02:37 PM, said:

Smurfy website is up again, at least as of right now 7-April-2021 !


That's a great news!

#20 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 07 April 2021 - 04:19 AM

View PostCh_R0me, on 06 April 2021 - 10:31 PM, said:

Well, let's get started to "transplant" Smurfy builds to the MechDB, to be certain... Posted Image

Once, I could even "import" the build to one Android app, but it's currently EOL.

Yeeees... if only there was a way to save our ideas without a website... hmmm...

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