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[PocketYoda]

The one light mech that needed quirks to be a top mech didn't get anything... Osiris.. poor Osiris.

Hopefully other mechs are in the pipline.. also rescale to Battletech scale asap.. I'll still pilot lights.

The new map looks great.

[pattonesque]

Slapshotwrx, on 20 August 2021 - 06:17 PM, said:

SHD changes are laughable

SHD is getting over a hundred points more total health

[sinba1ew]

Heavy Money, on 20 August 2021 - 04:22 PM, said:

4HP:
I still have no idea what to do with this. Snub+srm brawl? low arm mounts and limited range, might as well have taken an Atlas or Heavy Gauss fafnir.

I'd say 4ML + 4SRM6 + 5 SRM2 is nice

You can go for small lasers too or for ER Small's
in any case it's massive load or rockets with not that ridiculous heat, no ghost hear & all fired at once, so You can wigle nose again

[Audacious Aubergine]

Thorqemada, on 20 August 2021 - 02:38 PM, said:

My first instinct is telling me people will increase the usage of the HPG encircling wall...

Yeah that was my first thought, as if wall snipers weren't enough of a thing already. But hey at least it'll be easier to get to the little ******** now?

Some of the changes got a good cackle out of me - the Wang is about to evolve into UltraWang and it's gonna be "great"!

And... brace for the plague of Locusts

hypographia, on 20 August 2021 - 05:18 PM, said:

My dusty LPL Locust thanks you so so so very much!!!

I always forget - which one was the go-to for this? I want to say -1V but I could be wrong

Edited by Audacious Aubergine, 20 August 2021 - 11:53 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Mister Smile, on 20 August 2021 - 06:15 PM, said:

So even more wall-campers on HPG. Exactly what this map needed...

Right because brainless NASCAR is better? Come on...

If anything it just means more of the map is usable, and now we don't have to worry about an ECM light or Shadow Cat running around the walls for 5 minutes after the match is over.

I personally think the changes look great!

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 20 August 2021 - 07:13 PM.

[w0qj]

MAD-4HP
~Multiple SRM build experimented upon by some players
~Dual-MRM30 build experimented upon by some players
~LRM100 tried and true, by other players

Heavy Money, on 20 August 2021 - 04:22 PM, said:

Looks great overall. Very glad to see that the Marauder II got some attention in the first pass, but I'm guessing it'll need more. Here's my initial reaction:

...4HP:
I still have no idea what to do with this. Snub+srm brawl? low arm mounts and limited range, might as well have taken an Atlas or Heavy Gauss fafnir. ...

Edited by w0qj, 20 August 2021 - 07:32 PM.

[Heavy Money]

w0qj, on 20 August 2021 - 07:32 PM, said:

MAD-4HP
~Multiple SRM build experimented upon by some players
~Dual-MRM30 build experimented upon by some players
~LRM100 tried and true, by other players

Yes, I am aware of builds that exist, but none are all that good
You're still better off with other 100 tonners for most of these builds/roles/range brackets.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Commander James Raynor, on 20 August 2021 - 05:42 PM, said:

Yeah, I don't know about this one. I mean, I won't really know until I try it, but HPG is the best map in the game right now, so any change may make it a bit worse. Even if it's good, will it be as good as before? In this case, I would have loved a second, similar map. It's so good that having it come out twice as much would be very welcome.

I guess We'll see.

it’s only the “best” map if you like circling the obstacle in the center. Every. Single. Time.

this redesign breathes life into the map. Nascar will not be the default mode and more mechs will have the ability to use the walls. Yes, most players will not take advantage of the new tactical options the redesign offers, but they’re THERE.

also…

Centurion says what? Boo yah!!!!

[Scout Derek]

Slapshotwrx, on 20 August 2021 - 06:17 PM, said:

SHD changes are laughable

I recommend you re-read.

Quote

Shadow Hawk

All Variants:

Survival quirks on all non-hero variants matched with the hero variant:
Added +18 Structure to CT, LL, RL
Added +14 Structure to LT, RT
Added +12 Structure to LA, RA
Added +12 Armor to LT on all variants


SHD-2D:

Added -10% heat
Added 10% ballistic velocity
Added -40% Crit chance (receiving)


SHD-2D2:

Added -5% heat
Removed missile heat


SHD-2H:

Added -10% Missile heat


SHD-2K:

Added -10% heat
Added 20% PPC Family velocity


SHD-5M:

Added -10% heat
Added -10% Ballistic cooldown
Removed UAC5 cooldown


SHD-GD:

Added -20% cooldown
Removed AC10 cooldown
Added 10% energy range

Not sure how Shadowhawks becoming more tanky in general makes them "laughable"

[Jon McFuzzy]

Daeron Katz, on 20 August 2021 - 12:59 PM, said:

Yes!

+ Engine sales please. Lots of poor souls out there with very limited C-billz.

[C337Skymaster]

PraetorGix, on 20 August 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

Uhm, yes? Because, you know, most of us would really really like to chase those f*cking Spiders Cheetahs and Shadow Cats off their sniping positions... But I'm guessing you fit into one of those three dontcha?

Not recently, for a few reasons: first and foremost, I've finished leveling up those 'mechs, and the ones I still have to master aren't capable of that tactic. But secondly, I haven't seen that tactic be anything more than simply annoying in a couple of years. Sure, it's fun if you can get up there and stay unnoticed, but players are very attentive, these days, and there's typically a sufficient volume of accurate long-range firepower that can be directed at wall-snipers to discourage them from continuing in that role. Rather than having ramps up the outside of the wall so I can chase some Shadow Cat in my Dire Wolf, I'd rather just snipe them from the center platform with PPCs or ERLL, or something. More often than not, I can out-trade anything that can get up there, with something that can't, and can force the wall-sniper to find a different position.

Add to that the prevalence and power of air and artillery strikes, and wall snipers aren't the "giant threat" they were 5 years ago.

[sinba1ew]

Hmmm.... just a weird thing when come to think of it that Hellspawn & Arctic Wolf are getting same armor quirks...

I was under impression that Hellspawn might need some more love ...wil see

[Hauptmann Keg Steiner]

Heavy Money, on 20 August 2021 - 04:22 PM, said:

Is there some hidden niche or strength I've missed here? Is there something they can do better than the [...] Fafnir other than Jump Jets?

Having a less easy-to-shoot CT (at least without a RT gun); holy **** is the Fafnir easy to core out.

Oh! And ghost heat.

The MAD-4A didn't even have PPC spooky heat issues (although I'll take a 100-ton Awesome, sure, why not), while there's 2 Fafnirs starting off with dual UAC/20s, 1 with quad Snubs, and 1 with quad LPPCs (there's LRM and Rocket Launcher ghost heat on Fafnirs as well, but those are less crippling).

It'd be nice if the non-Heavy Gauss builds were encouraged a little more, is all.

[Monkey Lover]

Lets play a game how many ramps can you count? I count 27 in the first picture.

[Navid A1]

I wish some screenshots could have been provided around the center close to the ground where a mech usually is so people could understand that this is not going to be a sniper or LRM fest.

[TubbyToast]

this patch is fya they buffed the big boys again and maybe hpg plays like rubellite oasis

[Lepestok]

Please highlight the built-in mech's quirks. When the nodes in the skill tree are allocated, it is difficult to understand in the list of mech's bonuses which quirks are original and which ones are acquired. And this is sometimes necessary.

Edited by Lepestok, 21 August 2021 - 12:15 AM.

[Charon DOC Stock]

Can you add the old version of polar, canyon and HPG to the private lobby?

The new versions are just lambda maps for videogames, a tasteless pile of ramps and walls.
It is hard to create scenario in such environement. The older versions were telling a story.

[Navid A1]

Charon DOC Stock, on 21 August 2021 - 12:41 AM, said:

Can you add the old version of polar, canyon and HPG to the private lobby?

The new versions are just lambda maps for videogames, a tasteless pile of ramps and walls.
It is hard to create scenario in such environement. The older versions were telling a story.

Scenario?
Story?

[doctormanuse]

w0qj, on 20 August 2021 - 07:32 PM, said:

MAD-4HP
~Multiple SRM build experimented upon by some players
~Dual-MRM30 build experimented upon by some players
~LRM100 tried and true, by other players

Try quad MRM30, 2 each site torso. Left/Right Combo and if you are hot go for chain fire. Can be devestating for slower opponents who can't run away. Sure not meta, but the best build i could come up with.