ScrapIron Prime, on 11 October 2022 - 07:54 PM, said:
Well hobbits were based off Tolkien’s expression of British country folk in the early 20th century. And wouldn’t you know it, there were dark skinned country folk in southern England then too.
But the real answer to your question is “representation”. We can discuss that in off topic forum if anyone cares to start a thread, but I’d point out that FASA, the original makers of the Battletech genre, were always top notch about representation and positive portrayals.
i think you will encounter problems with stereotypes of asian culture represented by kuritia/liao factions.
i remember when cloud atlas got slammed for using yellowface. but they were trying to push the "were all connected" message, by showing lineage of the characters through each time period. and it was worth seeing agent smith in a dress and halle berry play an old asian man.
feeWAIVER, on 11 October 2022 - 08:32 PM, said:
My theory is that Sam Jackson is largely to blame.
Before Sam Jackson was Nick Fury, audiences largely rejected movies that casted their roles for "diversity".
It was the charisma of Sam Jackson, and the goodwill people have for him, that opened the floodgates for more of that.
Also keep in mind that everything we are seeing now was written, cast, and produced during a year that cities burned in politically endorsed race riots- so there's a small delay between culture and media.
Box office results speak for themselves. The market will correct.
That said, Rings of Power is freakin good. And any youtuber who reviews every episode to only complain is a completely disingenuous grifter that only wants your clicks.
thats probibly the only reason i watched any of the marvel movies. if were being honest. race swaps are ok if it is done because the actor better fits the role than other actors competing for the role. thats fine, the better actor should get the job, because thats how you get great movies. when you send a good actor packing and replace them with a less good actor that meets the quotas, then you crossed the line of putting ideology over art. recent macbeth adaptations also show this. denzel washington was impressive in that roll, prior to that i saw a version with scottish actors, and it was less impressive as a film.
dune '21 gender/race swapped liet kynes. and while i think the part was acted well, it necessitated changing the story. he was supposed to be beaten, interrogated, and thrown into the arrakis desert to die an unheroic and pointless death (this was to highlight the dangers of playing messiah as foreshadowing for the rest of the story). this would have not flown too well with a black/female actor, so they made her death a bit more heroic. you needed to save the white savior (as woke newspeak puts it), even though you could have used an actor of mediterranean descent to play paul (which would have been more accurate to the book), but i think they made the right choice with chalamet. its hard to find young actors with acting chops.
there is a subset of youtubers who call out bad movies, sometimes they miss the mark. im no tolkien fan, and after being burned by got, i think im done with the fantasy genre. but when they completely ruin franchises like star trek and star wars (which i grew up with), destroy old characters to prop up more diverse ones in their place, or abandon good writing for contrived scripts that shoehorn in hard left messaging wherever possible. i have to draw the line at bashing fans when they call out bad stuff. those people pay their salaries and should not be treated like dirt and accused of being racist/sexist/whatever when you dont like their feedback. recent seasons of doctor who was terrible, not because they gender swapped the doctor, but because they didnt develop the characters very well, especially the companions, and then they tried to retcon the complete lore of a show thats been on tv since the kennedy assassination. that disrespects the works of those who came before while simultaneously riding on their coat tails.
everything should be a meritocracy. if you got the chops you get the role. thats a lot better than type casting or meeting some quota. it is also completely colorbind with reguards to race and gender, which is what you want in a truely progressive society.
jjm1, on 11 October 2022 - 09:45 PM, said:
I would like to see a BT movie.
But I'd want to keep the BT community at a reaaally long arms length during its writing so it's not ruined by our terrible, terrible ideas.
what makes you think they wont bake their terrible ideas into it.
Edited by LordNothing, 13 October 2022 - 01:24 PM.
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