Alreech, on 11 March 2023 - 04:05 AM, said:
Sounds like a great way to waste money AND to upset the die hard solo players that hate even 4 player groups because those cheat with private VOIPs and teamwork (a no go in any team based shooter).
LOL! You are funny!
My annoyance with Group Drops is that usually their skill level is so low that you might as well NOT play that round and quit immediately...
The ratio of skilled vs. unskilled groups that are dropping together is something like 1:10 or worse in my experience!
And THAT is the reason I would like to see them removed from Quick Play a.s.a.p. !!!
smokefield, on 11 March 2023 - 08:13 AM, said:
I will never understand how voip is cheating, for one you have the same option in the game, and second, its all about team work. since when teamwork is cheating? please explain
Only one way : To have a "spy" in the other team, but that is rarely the case in MWO
He is just being stupid... no other word for it!
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did stomps went away in any form? cause i see daily them, and there rarely a 4 man group.
I dont think it is fair to punish team play and groups because some people cannotimprove their game. we got stomped, multiple times in a row, each one challenged us to be better. but i think this comes with life experience, cannot ask it from younger people...
I can't become better if there are 4 low skilled Group Drop players in my time each time that make us lose!
THAT is the actual PROBLEM here!
Steel Shanks, on 11 March 2023 - 11:21 AM, said:
Look, Groups is NOT an issue for God's sake... At least in Tier 3-5 where I play.
Having a 4-Man or 2-Man does not decide battles.
It does, just the other way around in my experience, while everyone else seems to think it makes a team OP
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How bout FACTION BASED things? Make Players WANT to play for Marik, Davion, Steiner, etc. Faction Mechs? In PROPER Faction Colors? Like a Griffin in Marik Militia Scheme?
That would be great, but I don't see it happening anytime soon now that the amount of MWO players is soo low...
Gas Guzzler, on 11 March 2023 - 12:07 PM, said:
@Daeron
I feel you brother, still on a 4790k machine, my GPU carries me through for now, but DDR3 really ages my machine.
I don't see the issue when it comes to MWO to be honest ?!
And your PC is still better than many of the much older and worse specced PC's and Laptops that I see mentioned from time to time on this forum!
Steel Shanks, on 11 March 2023 - 02:31 PM, said:
Stick to yer 6 ER Larges then, lots of skill using a build like that lol...
Actually I have a nice little DWF with 8 x ER LARGE LASER on it and for a silly build meant for Faction Warfare on the Defense side it works very decently in Quick Play too!
ShooteyMcShooterson, on 11 March 2023 - 06:37 PM, said:
I literally don't care what else they do to the matchmaker, just so long as they get the groups out of QP. Group queue should be its own queue, or not exist in quick play mode at all.
They never should have been there in the first place.
AMEN! brother!
ShooteyMcShooterson, on 11 March 2023 - 06:44 PM, said:
Groups never should have been put in the quick play solo queue. From the perspective of a casual player, it's far and away the biggest mistake they've ever made. Every casual player knows after playing QP for a while that it's pointless. You're either one of the tryhards in a group farming everyone else, or you're the meat. QP soup queue is a total bullsh*t game mode anymore.
Groups are not the problem there : The currently low skilled players are a bigger problem!
I have beaten or even stomped many group drops by getting my team to do the right thing in the right mechs with a proper loadout at that moment!
However when I see something like a KGC-000 with 6 x LMG on it then you can't really expect to win can you ?!
Or people just standing still and looking at their teammate getting shot to pieces on his own while they are in cover... HORRIBLE!!!
Horseman, on 12 March 2023 - 01:00 AM, said:
You realize that the Quick Play leaderboards are public and therefore it's pretty clear you haven't played 10 QP matches in any given calendar month since mid-2016?
https://leaderboard....0engine%20light
So that's where that stuff comes from!
Too bad you can't OPT-OUT or can you ?!
-K H A N, on 12 March 2023 - 01:41 AM, said:
I dont have a 6 ERLL mech,But Im going to make one now.
Go for 8 my guy!
Alreech, on 12 March 2023 - 04:53 AM, said:
No causual player in quickplay is using MWOs build in VOIP.
Because of kids and trolls : TRUE!
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First most players use funny names no one can remember or pronounce, second why bothering with memorizing the names if the team has total different players in the next match?
Third no one is listening if you tell them via VOIP "name" there is an enemy behind you...
Also not all players in the team speak the same language (english & french in north america, english, french, german, italian, spanish in europe) and not all players know how to communicate via voip (using grid coordinates instead their own mechs orientation, ect...)
Players in a group mostly have their own private VOIP solution like Teamspeak or Discord, know each other and can communicate much better. They can also coordinate their mech loadouts so that they have compatible speed and weapons and at least one mech carries ECM and stuff like TAG/NARC spotters and LRM mechs work.
Causual players that drop into quickplay don't have that privilege of good communication and coordination, so groups should not be in quickplay.
Removing groups from quickplay and let have the causuals quickplay as playground is the obvious solution to that problem.
The above however is just simply not true for everyone!
Divkrd, on 12 March 2023 - 07:13 AM, said:
You confused "casual players" with "noobs".
Currently MWO is full of them sadly!
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I'm a casual, and im nowhere near to what you're talking about. You're trying to hide your incompetence and inablity to adapt behind word "casual", but in fact you're just another lazy person, who thinks that the only way to play the game, is your way, like with groups for example, you basicaly saying: "i'm too lazy to learn how to fight groups, remove them so i could have fun without bothering about anything". How about "NO"? There are plenty of people who only play this game because they can group up with friends, not everyone in this community is socialy awkward sociophobe.
Everyone in QP have the same "privilege of good communication and coordination", that's your fault that you're not using it.
I agree but disagree about groups : They should have their own queue and fight it our seperated from the rest of the players who drop solo
When my team loses it's pretty much always because of low skilled group drops, often 4 of them!
TAMTAMBABY, on 12 March 2023 - 09:20 AM, said:
I'm translating your speeches as you write here.
I am answering by translating.
but it is impossible to do this in game with voice.
But you can just follow your team (Minimap!) and not go Rambo on your own!
TAMTAMBABY, on 12 March 2023 - 10:10 AM, said:
I'm already playing alone.
Me too, but at the same time hang out with people on TeamSpeak who are playing other games or simply doing something else than gaming
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