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[Navid A1]

LordNothing, on 26 November 2023 - 03:29 PM, said:

problem is they view stalkers as lerm boats, but they can do other things better (by virtue of not being lerms). stalker still has a slim forward profile and a lot of armor. they are usually easy to handle in lights, but thats mostly because so many of them have bad loadouts in the wild.

Even if you consider putting LRMs on them, They are one of the best IS LRM boats around.
I have 2 of them in my LRM drop deck for Faction Play. Fun to play, and Cbill printing machines. One of the few mechs that can bring respectable backups like medium lasers along with LRMs, and that high mounted TAG laser is chef's kiss.

[LordNothing]

Navid A1, on 26 November 2023 - 03:32 PM, said:

Even if you consider putting LRMs on them, They are one of the best IS LRM boats around.
I have 2 of them in my LRM drop deck for Faction Play. Fun to play, and Cbill printing machines. One of the few mechs that can bring respectable backups like medium lasers along with LRMs, and that high mounted TAG laser is chef's kiss.

i always prefer the highlander for lerm assaults, mostly because you can have a gauss rifle or ac20 as a backup weapon (i need to go put hags on my keeper). but yea, if you are going to use lerms on an assault, thats the mech. never had a problem making a stalker do work.

but in lower tiers all you see is lerm boats, and poorly operated lerm boats at that. easy pickings.

Edited by LordNothing, 26 November 2023 - 03:37 PM.

[Jay Z]

Bl00dbeard, on 24 November 2023 - 01:23 PM, said:

Why don't you spend a week boating SRM's in a stalker and come crying back to me. I play the Misery regularly.

I love my Misery because it is one of my first assaults. Its also hot garbage and you will never convince me otherwise.

I am happy to spend a week boating SRMs on the Stalker, do you have any builds and which variant should I start with? I'm also keen to try out the Misery so any builds for that are appreciated too.

[feeWAIVER]

Jay Z, on 27 November 2023 - 10:36 PM, said:

I am happy to spend a week boating SRMs on the Stalker, do you have any builds and which variant should I start with? I'm also keen to try out the Misery so any builds for that are appreciated too.

Stalker 5M with 5 aSRM6, 2 snubs wrecks.
Misery with 4 LL, 1 aSRM6 1 Snub.

Edited by feeWAIVER, 27 November 2023 - 10:58 PM.

[foamyesque]

feeWAIVER, on 27 November 2023 - 10:56 PM, said:

Stalker 5M with 5 aSRM6, 2 snubs wrecks.
Misery with 4 LL, 1 aSRM6 1 Snub.

I run a downscaled version of the 5M build on my C4 Catapult -- 4SRM6A + single snub. It's pretty potent.

Honestly the Stalker is one of the better Sphere assaults; the mounts and peek game are absolutely superb, since it's relatively narrow and all the variants have high mount arms, so it can ridge peek or side peek with pretty minimal exposure, and the good arm mounts are an absolute treasure to have since you can shoot damn near anything at any elevation. And it takes fairly minimal twisting to splash damage across multiple torsos by doing a nose-wiggle as long as you're facing the fire. Big side torso targets from the flanks, though.

I like 'em a bunch. Favourite overall has probably been the 3FB -- the 4N threatened to take that away but this month's nerf to the platform weakened it on me. The 3FB has a lot of vomit options that its ECM helps make happen.

[Vxheous]

feeWAIVER, on 27 November 2023 - 10:56 PM, said:

Stalker 5M with 5 aSRM6, 2 snubs wrecks.
Misery with 4 LL, 1 aSRM6 1 Snub.

You know Jay Z owns like 300 stalkers. Not exaggerating either. There is no one on planet Earth that knows more about MWO Stalkers than Jay Z.

Edited by Vxheous, 28 November 2023 - 03:26 AM.

[feeWAIVER]

Vxheous, on 28 November 2023 - 03:25 AM, said:

You know Jay Z owns like 300 stalkers. Not exaggerating either. There is no one on planet Earth that knows more about MWO Stalkers than Jay Z.

You know Jay Z owns like 2 hands. Not exaggerating either. There is no one on planet Earth that needs to jerk Jay Z off.

[Vxheous]

feeWAIVER, on 28 November 2023 - 05:52 AM, said:

You know Jay Z owns like 2 hands. Not exaggerating either. There is no one on planet Earth that needs to jerk Jay Z off.

Simply stating a fact about Jay Z's love of the assault blimp. You need to get out more.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

Vxheous, on 28 November 2023 - 03:25 AM, said:

You know Jay Z owns like 300 stalkers. Not exaggerating either. There is no one on planet Earth that knows more about MWO Stalkers than Jay Z.

That's nice. I'm glad he likes them and knows them.

Shall we all just play Stalkers then? The chassis' balance is unquestionably in good hands. I've got a couple.

Are there any Cicada, Marauder, Jenner, Griffin diehards in your ranks?

Edited by the check engine light, 28 November 2023 - 06:05 AM.

[feeWAIVER]

Vxheous, on 28 November 2023 - 06:00 AM, said:

Simply stating a fact about Jay Z's love of the assault blimp. You need to get out more.

My bad, I knew Jay Z was an MWO celebrity, but I didn't know we had gatekeepers for his fan club. I won't respond to anything he says about Stalkers ever again. Stalkers are Jay Z turf, I should have known better. My bad.

[Bud Crue]

Vxheous, on 28 November 2023 - 03:25 AM, said:

You know Jay Z owns like 300 stalkers. Not exaggerating either. There is no one on planet Earth that knows more about MWO Stalkers than Jay Z.

Jesus. And I thought my having 20 something Quickdraws was going a bit overboard!

[LordNothing]

feeWAIVER, on 27 November 2023 - 10:56 PM, said:

Stalker 5M with 5 aSRM6, 2 snubs wrecks.
Misery with 4 LL, 1 aSRM6 1 Snub.

always ran my misery with a uac20 and an mrm40, various backup weapons (a couple lppcs or er small lasers). i think i was able to swap the uac for an hgauss by removing the backup lasers. it was seriously brutal in fp (on brawl maps especially). i think its my most used mech, it still beats my ultraviolet for games played.

Edited by LordNothing, 28 November 2023 - 08:57 AM.

[pbiggz]

LordNothing, on 28 November 2023 - 08:56 AM, said:

always ran my misery with a uac20 and an mrm40, various backup weapons (a couple lppcs or er small lasers). i think i was able to swap the uac for an hgauss by removing the backup lasers. it was seriously brutal in fp (on brawl maps especially). i think its my most used mech, it still beats my ultraviolet for games played.

People sleep on the misery because its a hero mech from the 60 to 90 days <tm> era, and people don't like thinking about that time.

[Shineplasma]

Weeny Machine, on 24 November 2023 - 08:04 AM, said:

Playstyles usually used: Sniping, Laser vomit - oh the diversity!

And I disagree: 4 years ago the TTK was longer and your toso wasn't flying off by one alpha - especially not one shot half across the map.

Also, the risk vs reward factor is totally whack. 4 years ago you got high dps or alpha by sarcrificing range. Now you shoot even higher alphas at mid or long range. Now there is zero reason to go for risk and take a short range weapon plattform. You simply do not have advantages but only drawbacks

Didn't I dunk your Javelin with dual heavy gauss and then proceed to slaughter the rest of your team on Crimson Straight just the other day?

Lots of weapon systems are viable these days.

[Shineplasma]

Also, Stalkers = bad is simultaneously the funniest and dumbest thing I've ever read on these forums.

Its a tough mechs with great mounts and a good profile for spreading damage. It is also insanely versatile. Known for boating both lasers and missiles, and my favorite stk loadout ever is 5srm6 (hsl +1), 3sl, 2snubs.

What world are you living in that you consider Stalkers to be bad lmao. They're capable running of B+ thru tippy-top tier loadouts in every role/range bracket.

Edited by Shineplasma, 28 November 2023 - 01:23 PM.

[CFC Conky]

Shineplasma said:

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Also, Stalkers = bad is simultaneously the funniest and dumbest thing I've ever read on these forums.

In my opinion, you can never have enough Stalkers.
Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 28 November 2023 - 01:16 PM.

[Shineplasma]

CFC Conky, on 28 November 2023 - 01:16 PM, said:

In my opinion, you can never have enough Stalkers.
Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Myman

[Athom83]

Jay Z, on 27 November 2023 - 10:36 PM, said:

I'm also keen to try out the Misery so any builds for that are appreciated too.

RAC/5 + MRM-30 + 5 MPLs. With a LFE 300 and 5 DHS (2 in the engine) the RAC/5 is heat neutral so can just fire away, the MRM is good for opening up their armor, and the MPLs help with finishing off a component or subbing in as primary when the RAC is jammed.

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Edited by Athom83, 28 November 2023 - 02:47 PM.

[Heavy Money]

the check engine light, on 28 November 2023 - 06:04 AM, said:

That's nice. I'm glad he likes them and knows them.

Shall we all just play Stalkers then? The chassis' balance is unquestionably in good hands. I've got a couple.

Are there any Cicada, Marauder, Jenner, Griffin diehards in your ranks?

I'm a Marauder diehard! Both the 75t and 100t.

I wish I could like the Griffin lol.

[Mechwarrior2342356]

Heavy Money, on 28 November 2023 - 07:03 PM, said:

I'm a Marauder diehard! Both the 75t and 100t.

I wish I could like the Griffin lol.

I like the Griffin. And Mediums in general.

https://mwo.nav-alph...f54f561e_GRF-3M

Running a CPLT-C4 build with 10 tons less. It's a good chassis aside from the ridiculous scaling. Probably. It would certainly HELP if it weren't gigantic, anyway.

Wonder if someone could do something about that.

Edited by the check engine light, 28 November 2023 - 07:18 PM.