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#165 Threat Doc

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:01 PM

@Garth Erlam... out of likes... LIKE

Hayden, I'm running an ancient program for graphics, and I've never been able to figure out how to make layers, and never been able to afford, or really liked, any of the newer programs. If I can get together a package, details, and my own camo scheme, would you be willing to help an old merc out, please?

If necessary, let me know what elements you would like to see, and I'll fill those requirements to the best of my ability. Thank you.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:46 PM

Ok, here it is...Skye Jaegers Atlas:
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#167 Hayden

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:56 PM

Thanks all, it's always nice to hear from people!

View PostKay Wolf, on 29 November 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:

@Garth Erlam... out of likes... LIKE

Hayden, I'm running an ancient program for graphics, and I've never been able to figure out how to make layers, and never been able to afford, or really liked, any of the newer programs. If I can get together a package, details, and my own camo scheme, would you be willing to help an old merc out, please?

If necessary, let me know what elements you would like to see, and I'll fill those requirements to the best of my ability. Thank you.


Colonel, I am more than pleased to take requests, and am especially excited at the notion of doing an original request. The bulk of the stuff I do are existing units, so this would be a neat project. Here's what I would like from you:
-Colors (Hex numbers work best. This is a good reference: http://en.wikipedia..../List_of_colors )
-Pattern (flat, tigerstripe, flecktarn, I can do it all! Also tell me if there are things like racing stripes, gradients or certain panels that need it)
-'Mech (we have a few to choose from, the four official releases, plus my "poor-man's" Hunchback IIC and Great Wyrm).
-Unit Insignia (you can provide these, or have me whip some up, but I'll need details).
-Any little bits of flair, or detail. Nose art, warning signs, and so on.

View PostGarth Erlam, on 29 November 2011 - 09:56 AM, said:

This stuff is awesome guys, especially you Hayden, we're all watching with interest here ;)


Thank you, sir!




View PostCyttorak, on 29 November 2011 - 02:46 PM, said:

Ok, here it is...Skye Jaegers Atlas:
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HELL YES! :o

Edited by Hayden, 29 November 2011 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:12 PM

*drools*

Folks, this art is just pure awesome. That is all. ;)

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:33 PM

View PostCyttorak, on 29 November 2011 - 02:46 PM, said:

Ok, here it is...Skye Jaegers Atlas:


Nice! This has inspired me to attempt this again - going to try to paint an Atlas in 1st Royal Guards colors. Nobody wait up on me though, it may go poorly. ;)

Edit: I think I discovered the problem - I am still using CS3. Someone mentioned something about GIMP?

Edited by lahyenne, 29 November 2011 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:37 PM

This thread is... Wow, fantastic! You are very talented with these camo schemes. Plus adding all the interesting markings and decals. Great stuff here.

Piranha games, I hope you are paying attention to this thread!

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 05:09 PM

This thread is absolutely amazing.

Because great artists need inspiration, I'll toss in two requests ;) :

14th Donegal Guards

1st Robinson Rangers

For the record, every time this thread gets updated, I get a happy feeling.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 05:09 PM

View PostHayden, on 08 November 2011 - 09:43 PM, said:


EDIT: Com Guard 3rd Army Atlas. Because I haven't had anything Com Guard related since I started this thread.
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Did you have to put the comstar logo right there? ;)

#173 Hayden

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 05:30 PM

View Postrevanus, on 29 November 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

This thread is absolutely amazing.

Because great artists need inspiration, I'll toss in two requests ;) :

14th Donegal Guards

1st Robinson Rangers

For the record, every time this thread gets updated, I get a happy feeling.


That's a good mentality :o

View PostCarnivore, on 29 November 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:



Did you have to put the comstar logo right there? :lol:


It was the only place where it really fit right... I mean, that panel was basically created for the Comstar logo.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:18 PM

Love the ComStar Livery, May i repost it in our forums ?

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:41 PM

View Post[CG]Anastasius Focht, on 29 November 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:

Love the ComStar Livery, May i repost it in our forums ?

Go for it

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:41 PM

View PostCyttorak, on 29 November 2011 - 02:46 PM, said:

Ok, here it is...Skye Jaegers Atlas:
I snipped the image to cut back on scroll-finger, but it really is beautiful... very nicely done. I have been absolutely thoroughly impressed with all I've seen thus far; thank you, guys, especially you Hayden, for helping me get my 'Mech imagination going.

Okay, the following is proving to be long-winded, even for me... I apologize and, of course, if this is too much, please discuss it with me and we'll work to tone it down, alright? I'm just extremely grateful... thank you.

View PostHayden, on 29 November 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

Colonel, I am more than pleased to take requests, and am especially excited at the notion of doing an original request. The bulk of the stuff I do are existing units, so this would be a neat project. Here's what I would like from you:

-Colors (Hex numbers work best. This is a good reference: http://en.wikipedia..../List_of_colors )
-Pattern (flat, tigerstripe, flecktarn, I can do it all! Also tell me if there are things like racing stripes, gradients or certain panels that need it)
Actually, a friend of mine from late MechWarrior 3, early 4 days made a somewhat unique camo pattern for me... I don't know if it's possible, so if not, let me know and we'll see about going with more solid colors, k?

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The blue might need to be reduced to something that is less than neon -unless I'm the only one who sees it that way-, but I'll leave that to your capable hands... I swear, this used to look darker to me...

Also, some thick and thin caution strips as you've done on some other 'Mechs to this point... I think those are absolutely essential to combat machines, having been an Army helicopter mechanic for fifteen or so years, now, hehe.

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-'Mech (we have a few to choose from, the four official releases, plus my "poor-man's" Hunchback IIC and Great Wyrm).
The standard Hunchback would be fine with me, please? I really would love to see what Mr. Iglesias would do with a Wolverine; I understand the Unseen can't be used, unless pretty heavily modified, but the latest Japanimation Wolverine is too slender, doesn't have enough chutzpah to it.

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-Unit Insignia (you can provide these, or have me whip some up, but I'll need details).
I need to try and find my flat version, though to be honest, I'm not sure I have it, anymore. Right, I do not have the flat standard, anymore; fortunately, this is a geometric shape, so it should be easy to bring out. Hopefully, this can be placed somewhere on the upper portion of the 'Mech, though I understand space restrictions. Also, the 1st Battalion logo is below the unit logo, and I think it would almost be perfect on the front of the AC/20, somehow, hehe.

Posted ImageThis is the unit standard, and...

Posted Image and this is for the Battalion.

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-Any little bits of flair, or detail. Nose art, warning signs, and so on.
Along the base of the head, perhaps horizontal along the torso near the cockpit, "Gideon", in some dark gold or silver lettering, maybe some kill markers, at your discretion, and the 'Mech number 777, anywhere. Also if it would be possible, some nose art...

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Thank you, sir!
Oh, my... no... thank you. I'm not sure if this is too racy or not, but I understand the average age of this community is 30, so hopefully it's not too bad.

Oh, and don't go to the link... I never went there before now, but have just found out it's a **** site... fortunately, the text is only in the image, and not a bloody link. I did NOT get this from there, by the way (red-faced).

Edited by Kay Wolf, 29 November 2011 - 06:44 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:24 PM

View PostKay Wolf, on 29 November 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

I need to try and find my flat version, though to be honest, I'm not sure I have it, anymore. Right, I do not have the flat standard, anymore; fortunately, this is a geometric shape, so it should be easy to bring out. Hopefully, this can be placed somewhere on the upper portion of the 'Mech, though I understand space restrictions. Also, the 1st Battalion logo is below the unit logo, and I think it would almost be perfect on the front of the AC/20, somehow, hehe.

Posted ImageThis is the unit standard, and...

Posted Image and this is for the Battalion.

Along the base of the head, perhaps horizontal along the torso near the cockpit, "Gideon", in some dark gold or silver lettering, maybe some kill markers, at your discretion, and the 'Mech number 777, anywhere. Also if it would be possible, some nose art...


Ok, I've started on applying the Camo, technique I'm using is a bit unorthodox, but I think it should work to your liking. Um, I need to know, where you would like the the insignia and numbers. A lot of units have preordained locations for those, but others have no "fixed" location. Just want your input so I get it right. Also I need to know what color you want the caution stripes and numbers to be.

EDIT: as an aside, no need to worry about giving me "flat" insignia, it'll just take a couple minutes to edit the ones provided.

Edited by Hayden, 30 November 2011 - 03:23 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:19 AM

View PostDigitalStef, on 07 November 2011 - 01:36 PM, said:

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Pirates Beware!

I guess that's what you call "a 'mech in mint condition".

View PostHayden, on 16 November 2011 - 10:33 AM, said:

EDIT: I think today is for the Dragon. 5th Sword of Light Jenner. Probably the most basic paint scheme ever. From what I understand, Sword of Light units are never painted in anything other than red and unit markings, no customization or anything. Anyone else know anything about 'em?
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The most plausible explanation I can think of is because Sword of Light are supposed to be an "especially-elite" Kurita unit. Color red/vermilion (朱: "aka/shu", as opposed to 赤: "aka/seki", which is simply "red") holds a special significance in the Japanese national religion of Shinto - most notably, shrines and torii (the "gates" near the shrines) are colored like this.

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It stands to reason that Kurita could paint their "sacred" unit in same color. The minimalistic color scheme fits well with the traditional Japanese aestetics as well. It may seem a bit sacrilegious, perhaps - yet probably no more than using crosses for "paladins" in fantasy art.

Edited by Alex Wolfe, 30 November 2011 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:40 AM

View PostHayden, on 29 November 2011 - 11:24 PM, said:

Ok, I've started on applying the Camo, technique I'm using is a bit unorthodox, but I think it should work to your liking.
Well, I can't wait to see it. ;)

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Um, I need to know, where you would like the the insignia and numbers. A lot of units have preordained locations for those, but others have no "fixed" location. Just want your input so I get it right. Also I need to know what color you want the caution stripes and numbers to be.
Okay. How about the "777" on the upper-left portion of the left leg, "Gideon" toward the back-side of the head, on the 45-down angle, and the nose art on the left panel over the stomach (left-hand torso, as you're facing it). I know it's nose art, but looking at some of the previous BattleMech art, such as my favorite Warhammer pic -the succubus on the lower left leg-, it seems the art can actually go anywhere it fits.

I hope that will help?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:44 AM

View PostDamocles, on 16 November 2011 - 08:11 PM, said:

oh hello kitty... lol

Clan Smoke Jaguar is not a kitteh! We are great cats...difference, one paws at you and you go awwwww, the other paws at you and your legs are now bloody stumps. FEAR THE JAGUAR!

#181 Amarus Cameron

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:53 AM

Also for the Alpha Galaxy one...nice, never actually saw it in the mix...so much is posted here I missed it. And I dunno where it was said that I asked for Alpha Galaxy? Cool but I am actually a Beta Galaxy man myself, 2nd Jaguar Guards all the way! The Hunchback IIC and Stormcrow B were two widely used designs among the clans that were heavily favored by my Clan. the Hunchback because it is cheap with big guns and the Stormcrow because it is fast with big guns ;)

Could you possibly run up a Hunchback IIC in Beta Galaxy Colors?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:00 AM

View PostAmarus Cameron, on 30 November 2011 - 07:44 AM, said:

Clan Smoke Jaguar is not a kitteh! We are great cats...difference, one paws at you and you go awwwww, the other paws at you and your legs are now bloody stumps. FEAR THE JAGUAR!


He was actually referencing the little Hello Kitty I put just above the barrel of the AC/20 on a hunchback on page 6. But I do appreciate your enthusiasm.

View PostAmarus Cameron, on 30 November 2011 - 07:53 AM, said:

Also for the Alpha Galaxy one...nice, never actually saw it in the mix...so much is posted here I missed it. And I dunno where it was said that I asked for Alpha Galaxy? Cool but I am actually a Beta Galaxy man myself, 2nd Jaguar Guards all the way! The Hunchback IIC and Stormcrow B were two widely used designs among the clans that were heavily favored by my Clan. the Hunchback because it is cheap with big guns and the Stormcrow because it is fast with big guns ;)

Could you possibly run up a Hunchback IIC in Beta Galaxy Colors?


Anything is possible...

View PostAlex Wolfe, on 30 November 2011 - 02:19 AM, said:

The most plausible explanation I can think of is because Sword of Light are supposed to be an "especially-elite" Kurita unit. Color red/vermilion (朱: "aka/shu", as opposed to 赤: "aka/seki", which is simply "red") holds a special significance in the Japanese national religion of Shinto - most notably, shrines and torii (the "gates" near the shrines) are colored like this.

It stands to reason that Kurita could paint their "sacred" unit in same color. The minimalistic color scheme fits well with the traditional Japanese aestetics as well. It may seem a bit sacrilegious, perhaps - yet probably no more than using crosses for "paladins" in fantasy art.


Gold star, sir. I don't know if it's what the BT folks had in mind when they picked the color, but I like your take on it, interesting read.

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View PostELH_Imp, on 30 November 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

Oh... Russian hunchie "gorbun" just nice.


I try to give the stuff an "international" flavor. Not everyone in outer space speaks English.



View PostAlex Wolfe, on 30 November 2011 - 11:37 AM, said:

Well, since Star Wars' Imperial Stormtroopers were supposedly influenced by white being a color of death in Japan... I'm hoping that this explanation isn't too far-fetched.

By the way, excellent work on those paint jobs and remodeling! You really make those mechs look like they are "someone's own, personal" machine, some good sense there.

One thing though - aren't Hunchback IIC's supposed to be pretty much "walking coffins"? I realize people are starved for Clan mechs, but I doubt a Star Commander or above would pilot those - rather the old, the no-longer-fit, or disgraced. Hunchback is a mean brawler in the Inner Sphere, but I've read that the Clans mostly see their refit as cheap, borderline suicide shock troops.


Yeah, i acknowledge the Hunchback IIC is basically a death sentence in many cases, but not universally. I understand that they are sometimes used in duels and in other cases, and the 'mech remains in front line use. So while I am inclined to agree with your take on things, it is with some reservation. I felt a Star Commander in a Hunchback IIC was feasible, but very unlikely. Maybe Freeborn? Maybe an officer who had done well to a point and then things stated going awry? Maybe an older warrior in a second-line unit? I'll agree that it may not have been the best choice, but it's one that I am comfortable with, and you bring up a good point.

Edited by Hayden, 30 November 2011 - 11:54 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:19 AM

View PostHayden, on 25 November 2011 - 09:56 PM, said:

EDIT: 4th Marik Militia Hunchback. The 4th a special case, because they use a different paint scheme. Unlike the normal purple base with red and blue highlights, the 4th uses a blue and gray scheme.

Oh... Russian hunchie "gorbun" just nice.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:37 AM

View PostHayden, on 30 November 2011 - 11:00 AM, said:

Gold star, sir. I don't know if it's what the BT folks had in mind when they picked the color, but I like your take on it, interesting read.

Well, since Star Wars' Imperial Stormtroopers were supposedly influenced by white being a color of death in Japan... I'm hoping that this explanation isn't too far-fetched.

By the way, excellent work on those paint jobs and remodeling! You really make those mechs look like they are "someone's own, personal" machine, some good sense there.

One thing though - aren't Hunchback IIC's supposed to be pretty much "walking coffins"? I realize people are starved for Clan mechs, but I doubt a Star Commander or above would pilot those - rather the old, the no-longer-fit, or disgraced. Hunchback is a mean brawler in the Inner Sphere, but I've read that the Clans mostly see their refit as cheap, borderline suicide shock troops.

Edited by Alex Wolfe, 30 November 2011 - 11:38 AM.






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