171 replies to this topic

[Orzorn]

I'll play both and enjoy both.

You don't have to pick.

[Morglum]

Hawken isnt a mech game, its another FPS wrapped up in giant robot skins for all the ADD kids out there that are tired of CoD.

[Wooj]

Hawken "mechs" = Protomechs.

And we know how well those turned out...

[siztem]

Orzorn, on 03 August 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

I'll play both and enjoy both.

You don't have to pick.

What he and/or she said

Morglum, on 03 August 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

Hawken isnt a mech game, its another FPS wrapped up in giant robot skins for all the ADD kids out there that are tired of CoD.

Is not MWO an FPS wrapped in giant robot skins?

[Mr T]

Stalgrim, on 02 August 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

"uneducated, undisciplined, etc etc people" NEVER said that, I said they prefered a jousting style of game play where tactics where minimalised which really IS the case.

Actually, you did, just in more words than he used to summarize what you said.

"Hawken seems like it was designed for teenagers"
"Hawken is the 'mech equivalent of C.O.D. MWO is a MW game, it wasn't designed to appeal to a bunch of kids"
"asking it in the Hawken forums will get you an utterly different set of results but with less grammar and punctuation."

Teenagers and kids, the two groups you decided to tie the focus of your reply to, are commonly considered uneducated and undisciplined when used in such a general, stereotypical manner, along with the whole connotation of the game designed towards those who like to think less, underlining this point you seem to be making. Then you go so far as to criticize the literacy capabilities of the same entire group of people you are referencing. So yes, you did say they were undisciplined and uneducated through oh so many words, even if you didn't say them specifically.

To further break down this self contradiction, you never said the word "Joust" either, so in one instance you can say you were talking about something that was merely implied, but not another because it suits you at that moment? No dice, my good sir.

Example:
If I type out a paragraph describing the properties of an apple, without using the word "apple", I'm still talking about an apple.

Example 2:
Person A: "I met this guy once, I sear he had the intelligence of a pebble. He would stare around like a neanderthal, mouth agape and drooling on the floor. His speech sounded as though he was trying to communicate with his long lost cavemen brethren."

Person B: "So you're telling me this person is a moron?"

Person A: "WHAT?! NO! I never said that."

Person B: "..."


P.S. I honestly don't care about the point you were trying to make or defending either side of it, it just ****** me off when people try to cover up the truth about their own actions in the most arrogant manner, where people can literally click once or twice and see the words you originally wrote.. which weren't even subtle to begin with. A good attribute for a life in politics, completely unnecessary, irritating and pointless anywhere else.

Edited by Mr T, 03 August 2012 - 02:18 PM.

[Adridos]

MW:O is different, it is a game of old, which I love so much for their longetivity, challenge and long lost ideas.

Hawken is... well, it seems to be just more of what I already see everywhere... I may be wrong, but I'll stick with the sure one.

[ItsDevin]

Aym, on 03 August 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

So adjusting armor, heatsinks, ammo, engine size, and modules is not "a very high level of customization?" And weapon loadout is the same as weapon layout?

thats exactly what I am saying . you can change the internals but no real structure or cosmetic changes.. so every mech is the same and the options feel limited.. but again . Im used to Chrome Hounds which offered internal external and cosmetic customization.

not trolling I like MWO .. I just wish there was more ... how shall I say Detail ... but the game is young maybe I will get my wish . it just doesnt seem to be the BattleTech way

[Cencius]

The level of customization and mech building in Chromehounds goes way, way beyond what the Battletech universe can offer. It's a necessary part of the game's lore; Clan omnimechs are probably the most modular you're ever going to get.

[Hidran]

hawken mechs look junky, and thrown-together. and they play like cougars with all the armor stripped. no wonder they are killed so fast. thats why you cant even compare the two. MW REIGNS SUPREME

[Scytale]

I still don't see how anyone can say Hawken is CoD with mechs. It's not even in closed beta yet.

[Harlock Fredrick]

i be up for trying Hawkens because its a mech game but it reminds me to much of some anime i watched as a kid that turned me away and when i look at alot of the mechs in that game i see Fat ballons bouncing all over the place. Tho i do like the steam punk typ look to it but Im to much of a Mechwarrior Fan and Robotech and so forth fan to realy want to play Hawkens. LONG LIVE BATTLETECH and MECHWARRIOR!!

[ItsDevin]

well there is defiantly some harsh criticism on Hawken in this forum .. and I Bet if I took the Same Poll too the Hawken Forums they would be telling me how all you MWO fans are sucked into some sort of Lame slow paced game and its for all those players that can track a target unless its slowly moving acrossed the screen .


Im looking forward to both game honestly .. I just hope that as new mechs appear in MWO it fulfills my need for Massive amounts of variety in Mech styles .. because if I cant build a custom looking Mech there better be so many mechs in the game that when I enter a battle noone else has that mech.

[ExecutionerNow]

I don't think there is much comparsion between Hawken and MWO. Hawken is more for the FPS crowd than the sim crowd.

[JFlash49]

Hawken? oh! you mean that FPS, that looks like a mech? i didnt even notice it, i was too busy trying to get into beta.

[Thoman Coston]

Will try both. Judging a game without playing is silly .
I hope Hawken will have torso twist though, last i heard it doesn't...now that is a big negative point

[ItsDevin]

Taigen, on 03 August 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Will try both. Judging a game without playing is silly .
I hope Hawken will have torso twist though, last i heard it doesn't...now that is a big negative point

no torso twist would really kill the game for me .. it wouldnt be a proper Mech if it didnt

[Regurgitated]

I'm grateful for this topic... I actually hadn't heard or seen anything about it until now, just checked out some vids, it looked like my cup of tea.

I'm sure I'll spend more time with MWO and like it better because, **** yeah Battletech Mechs, but Hawken seems like the kind of game you could kick back and enjoy with some friends when you don't want to think or play too hard (hence why it's probably on Xbox...) Really I don't think we should have to choose, and not at least until we know a lot more about Hawken.

[BlazeOn]

You guys should check out Reign of Thunder too. Spread the mech love. I will be playing MWO, Hawken AND Reign of Thunder.

[Scytale]

Seems to me that 2012 marks the beginning of the age of mechs =P

[W0lfnMan]

Scytale, on 09 August 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Seems to me that 2012 marks the beginning of the age of mechs =P

Let's us pray to internet gods that you are right.