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[Orzorn]

Barbaric Soul, on 09 March 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

Don't be too sure about that. I know plenty of people, myself included, that have no problems blowing the legs out from under a fast light mech with guass and ppc in MW4. It'll happen here aswell. People will just have to get used to the aiming system of MWO.

You can't make that comparison because MW4 doesn't have convergence nor does it have that aiming lag that we saw in the trailer. Getting used to a system still doesn't get rid of its difficulties. If I recall, ACs in MW4 don't have a travel time, either.

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Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. As long as you had armor on your legs in MW4, 2-3 torso shots were usually a faster kill. I'd be willing to bet it'll be the same in MWO.

It seemed that way in the trailer. Many of those kills were torso kills. It only makes sense to shoot at the largest target when you have an AC20 like the Atlas and Hunchback do. That kind of power can kill just about any mech in under 3 rounds.

[Thomas Covenant]

What happens when you kill both legs in MWO?

[RaGe666]

Only ppl that cried leggin was the ones that sucked at the game...

[HanaYuriko]

I never understood the tactic legging when the legs usually have thicker armor than the torso sections. Maybe if you're playing a game with substantial salvage mechanic, but other than that, it's best to go for the critical systems behind thinner armor.

[Namwons]

If I'm a light vs a heavy, I'm gonna leg you to escape or immobilize you for my mates. If I'm in a heavy an see a light, I'm gonna leg you to keep you from running away. If its more even, I'm going for the weapons or reactor.

@Hana. Legs have the least armor (well head does actually), followed by arms, torsos, then center.

Edited by Namwons, 09 March 2012 - 09:51 PM.

[wwiiogre]

salvage, a game with huge maps means slow mechs don't complete the mission, also I am small you are big, I keep pecking at your legs and eventually you fall down and go boom, besides, legging is just so much fun especially if there is salvage in the game, also it knocks an enemy mech out of the game which is important if each side only has 12 and there is no respawning. So expect some legging coming your way if I ever catch you by surprise with my fast light or medium and you are trudging in a heavy or assault, first I am gonna call arty on you, then airstrikes, and if possible fascam mine laying missiles cause I am a complete scumbag and would even leg you with mines. And if you kept hobbling toward the battlefield I would eventually blow your leg off completely and threaten to completely destroy all of your bits if you don't eject and go away. Cause we play for keeps and war is hell and not fair. Don't know why anyone thinks there are rules or honor in war. I want to win with the least amount of damage for my own mech and for the mechs of my merc group. In general I want to recover as much as possible and hope the dev's actually reward you with more salvage based on the fact that the mechs we stopped weren't so damaged or destroyed even. Destroy a mech and nothing to salvage, capture a mech you get their ammo and you get to ransom them back to their owners. Hoping this is in play as well.

chris

[Namwons]

Thomas Covenant, on 09 March 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

What happens when you kill both legs in MWO?

Its only a flesh wound

Edited by Namwons, 09 March 2012 - 09:54 PM.

[Ansel]

Legging is a viable tactic, the same as camping.

The issue starts when other people don't understand how to not get killed by said leggers and campers.

The simplest thing you can do is learn the terran of each map and learn where your legs are covered by small hills and valleys, if they can't shoot your legs they can't leg you.

Same with campers, if you know that large numbers of players go to one spot and wait go around them and finish every other player with your whole team then swarm the few who decided to wait. Again using terran to your advantage whitch is easly done since the campers aren't moving and won't move unless forced.

It's the idiots who run full speed ahead through the same area every time expecting the other players to do so who get killed in those manners.

Then they cry about it because the other player takes advantage of their idiocy, acting like the other player is playing wrong because they don't use the exact same strategy as the complainer.

I'll never understand people who do that. I will camp an area if people are going to mindlessly run through it, I will also leg if you give me an easy shot at your legs.

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[J0anna]

Namwons, on 09 March 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

@Hana. Legs have the least armor (well head does actually), followed by arms, torsos, then center.

Not true in TT, Leg armor is usually the same as torso armor. Arms usually have less armor than legs, though more than head.

Also I agree 'legging' has always been too powerful in PC versions. Destroying a leg in TT, just immobilizes the mech (very good chance to fall), but then you can shoot prone...Since I haven't seen anything that suggests we could shoot prone, legging could just immobilize the mech, which would lessen the effect. Though looking at the combat video, it appears that it will be hard to converge all your weapons on one point, while spreading damage (which always happens in TT) seems far more likely.

[trycksh0t]

Legging as a tactic can be effective. Personally, I think it's a waste of time and ammo. Why bother trying to shoot a leg off when I can slam a Gauss Rifle slug into your head and be done with it?

[RaGe666]

i am writing all ur names down now just so i can leg the hell out of you all.. see you all on the field

for or against u do not carry the TYZ~

~Anger is a gift~

[Trogusaur]

trycksh0t, on 09 March 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

Legging as a tactic can be effective. Personally, I think it's a waste of time and ammo. Why bother trying to shoot a leg off when I can slam a Gauss Rifle slug into your head and be done with it?

Because that requires skill.

RaGe666, on 09 March 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

i am writing all ur names down now just so i can leg the hell out of you all.. see you all on the field

Don't need to write your name down to remember to groupkill your mech

Edited by Lord Trogus, 09 March 2012 - 10:28 PM.

[pursang]

Legging is a perfectly valid tactic. And if you're bad enough to let your 'Mech get legged then you deserve to reap the consequences.

[Naughtyboy]

Well..its simple, a kill is a kill no matter with what or how its done. You are either alive or dead, there is no middle ground.

[FACEman Peck]

I have to agree with an earlier post, legs don't shoot back, torsos and arms do. I always tried to kill the guns or the center torso above all else. Legging was a, for lack of a better word when I typed this, "noobish" tactic, however valid. It made the games ridiculous and people pathetic, like mortars in Battlefield 3 do now.

[Kargush]

This thread again...

Do people never get tired of the same old complaints and arguments? "Legging is bad!" "Boating is bad!" "Clan tech is unbalanced!"

Look, once servers are up, you're free to ban whatever it is you want banned. No legging? Sure, go ahead and make that a server rule. In the mean time, I'll go play with the guys and gals who won't ask me to tie one hand behind my back.

[machine]

Legging was a way to disable without allowing a respawn so you could camp two or three respawners

[Dr Killinger]

Leggings is no easier than going for the core or taking out critical weapons. I have no idea why people get so angry about it- if it were that easy, EVERY death would be by legging in mech games, and that simply isn't the case. Only time I leg is when the leg is already hurt from repeated salvos of LRMS from my team mates, for example- it would be foolish not to!

I think it's just a case of people getting butthurt when their mech still 'works', but they can't walk anywhere... and then they suddenly turn into 12-year-old CoD players and get all sweary.

[Glory in the Highest]

Are we really talking about legging again?

[Beaker]

the majority of people who moan about legging are the ones who stripped armour off their legs to fit another ERLL in there.
Legs are part of a mech, therefore the are legitimate parts to shoot. I always used to check laserboats in MW4 to see if they had stripped the legs, and if they had I made of point of getting the easy kills.