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[Valorcalls]

I can tell you they dont plan on doing tanks or anything else... they might put in aero fighters, but itd be as a commanderish ability.

Honestly, I'd take a Legion Tank over most battlemechs (its equal in weight to an Atlas)

[KaneDeathForge]

personaly as it stands i would even become a yearly member ... if you all through in more mech choices the mechs here except for a few, in all of mechwarrior are low grade mechs add in more choices i know for a fact a commando can take down a atlis, but it dose not stand a chance agenst a kodiac. in all 4 classes of mechs there is a lot of choices. add some more so players can be different. truthfuly most online games crash and burn with out choices. players tire of the same old stuff. o and sorry i may seem off the wall since i have yet seen a real membership choice . but just saying food for thought. you do not need a edge, with that kinda buying but just to look different and be different.

Edited by KaneDeathForge, 26 February 2013 - 06:54 PM.

[Ed Ward]

I would pay for i. e.

1. Premium time, if I would have the possibility to take only a half or a quarter day, because some times I'm only able to play for some hours a day or a week. (even if i. e. 1 day costs 240 mc and a half day costs 150 mc so "two half days" will cost a little bit more than 1 full day)

2. Renaming my mechs afterwards

3. If later on the mechs get damaged in fights and repairing this will cost, a mech insurance

Thats it for now.

Kind Regards

Edited by Ed Ward, 27 February 2013 - 02:21 PM.

[Chrithu]

I'm not sure if this could be viewed as pay to win, thus I am not sure if it should be a MC exclusive thing.

But I'd be VERY interested in empty FULLY customizable chassis. Meaning: I buy the chassis and get to select the hardpoints it has within a framework of rules to ensure balance. I know this is totally not BT. But for me as a customizing freak that would be heaven.

[Fiona Marshe]

Darkblood, on 14 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I wonder how much it would cost to buy the licenses to at least part of the unseen (the most popular ones) to use in this game. With so many of us willing to pay for them it might be possible to start a crowd-funding kinda of deal to buy them. I would certainly pay the U$25 the are charging for the Pretty Baby to have the Locust, Warhammer, Marauder or Thunderbolt in game (as FTP mechs, mind you, to everyone).

The problem is with Harmony Gold (not FASA) completely screwing the fans of the source manga due to an overly onorous international *perpetual!* distribution agreement made with a minor player in the source material. The courts in Japan ruled last year that the IP does not belong to the company that Harmony Gold got their distribution licence from (and belongs to the company that FASA got the licence from); but until the distribution agreement is challenged in the US courts (by someone with a *lot* of money for lawyers), it ain't going to happen. BTW, the FASA licence is valid, but the cross-licence court challenges are too expensive for FASA (really just a 1 man company these days) to go against Harmony Gold's lawyers. There was an out-of-court agreement between FASA and Harmony Gold about a decade ago, but there was further legal action by Harmony Gold that screwed things up again. See "Unseen" on wikipedia or Sarna.net
*Microsoft* on the other hand (who have the MechWarrior digital rights) do the the funds, but would need the will (and potential financial return) to break them.

If this game was made in Japan and not distributed internationally, all the "Unseen" would be automatically included, as the legal issues are only with the international distribution (there is a *huge* amount of toys, games and other materials available in Japan for the SDF/Macross line, we're talking millions of Yen per year in revenue).

[Rubidiy]

It seems obvious now that eventually we will have the possibility to place insignias on our mechs. I'd like developers to give us as much freedom as possible in terms of customizing your mech's appearance. For example I want to have the opportunity of writing mottos on my mech (apparently some abusive filter should be attached) or placing insignias not only in some specific places of a mech, but litteraly everywhere i'd like to.
<--- here's the example

Edited by Rubidiy, 28 February 2013 - 09:14 AM.

[DisasterTheory]

Rubidiy, on 28 February 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

It seems obvious now that eventually we will have the possibility to place insignias on our mechs. I'd like developers to give us as much freedom as possible in terms of customizing your mech's appearance. For example I want to have the opportunity of writing mottos on my mech (apparently some abusive filter should be attached) or placing insignias not only in some specific places of a mech, but litteraly everywhere i'd like to.
<--- here's the example

I would like to be able to upload a custom insignia after we are able to create our units for community warfare and that insignia is placed on all mechs that fall under my units name. This would create a much more customized feel to the game.

[Arisaema]

I would pay for never to have 3rd person view. I would also pay to get ECM nerfed back down to the level it is supposed to be at.

[Rubidiy]

Arisaema
sorry dude, but I don't think you have a point here. ECM is currently very well balanced, and note that I'm not playing in LRM boats or ECM Ravens.
developers
The most valueable thing that brings money to any game is game's quality and fairness with players. Now you're doing a great job indeed! Please don't pay too much attention to money bringing content. Just focus on polishing the game and being equal to both free to play crowd and donating players. Fair gameplay and quality will bring you loads more money than a gamestore full of must pay stuff in a bad game.
In terms of moneymaking you always should think more about donating player's ego but not hurting other players. It will always come down to making someone's mech unique. Patterns, insignias, cockpit items, aerography or even halogenic lighting

Edited by Rubidiy, 01 March 2013 - 07:20 AM.

[Zeige]

Training rooms! I would pay to have a training room that i could use to setup battles with friends and other Units or to practice tactics, test loadouts, and run community tournaments.

[Zeige]

Oh and this training room would be something you got with premium time. Devs make money and we have a place the community can use to tournaments and etc. But with this a lobby or general chat will need to be ingame so we can all communicate.

[blinkin]

Zeige, on 01 March 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

Oh and this training room would be something you got with premium time. Devs make money and we have a place the community can use to tournaments and etc. But with this a lobby or general chat will need to be ingame so we can all communicate.

you have managed to make me hate every word within a single post. well done sir.

the point of the training room is so that new unskilled player who aren't used to the game yet can learn how it works. if you make it a pay only option then only the players who already like the game enough to spend money will use it.

lets be honest. regardless of how much money you have each player will only spend money up to a certain point. after that point you have everything you want. we need more players to keep this game going. we need some way to get new players into the game and start paying money.

veteran fans of the series mostly don't need a training area. i got used to the gameplay and controls within a couple days because it was very similar to older computer games. new players do actually need a training area to learn how the game works.

it is not fun to just die repeatedly in a game because you have no idea how anything works. people generally DO NOT spend money on games if they are not having fun.

currently i am pretty sure non battletech / mechwarrior fans very thoroughly outnumber the people who already love the series. i don't suggest lowering the quality of the game, in fact i think much more skill should be required in many aspects of the game, but we need to leave some sort of doorway for the vast numbers of everyone else to get in the game and start to enjoy it.


i will leave the lobby stuff alone because i have stated those points in several other places.

Edited by blinkin, 01 March 2013 - 12:52 PM.

[Docta Pain]

I would pay MC to "Heroize" a Mech. You should be able to pay 250 MC for a 5% XP/CB bonus on the chassis, 500MC for 10%, 750 for 15% and 1000 for a max of 20%. THAT is something I would give MC for.

A hula girl? Really?

[BillyM]

Separate queues, one for ECM Ravens and SRM Cats, and one for people who actually like playing the game for the skill involved. $5/mo sounds fair, more than I've paid for MC ever....

--billyM

Edited by BillyM, 01 March 2013 - 07:06 PM.

[Arisaema]

Rubidiy, on 01 March 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

Arisaema
sorry dude, but I don't think you have a point here. ECM is currently very well balanced, and note that I'm not playing in LRM boats or ECM Ravens.

Sorry, I have to disagree with this. All you see in 8 man drops now are DDC's and ravens. All equipped with guardian. Not much fun and variation in that is there. Hence, why I would pay to have ECM nerfed

[Valorcalls]

^ you have never had to fight the 4 Ilya 4 splat drops...

[Zeige]

blinkin, on 01 March 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

you have managed to make me hate every word within a single post. well done sir.

the point of the training room is so that new unskilled player who aren't used to the game yet can learn how it works. if you make it a pay only option then only the players who already like the game enough to spend money will use it.

lets be honest. regardless of how much money you have each player will only spend money up to a certain point. after that point you have everything you want. we need more players to keep this game going. we need some way to get new players into the game and start paying money.

veteran fans of the series mostly don't need a training area. i got used to the gameplay and controls within a couple days because it was very similar to older computer games. new players do actually need a training area to learn how the game works.

it is not fun to just die repeatedly in a game because you have no idea how anything works. people generally DO NOT spend money on games if they are not having fun.

currently i am pretty sure non battletech / mechwarrior fans very thoroughly outnumber the people who already love the series. i don't suggest lowering the quality of the game, in fact i think much more skill should be required in many aspects of the game, but we need to leave some sort of doorway for the vast numbers of everyone else to get in the game and start to enjoy it.


i will leave the lobby stuff alone because i have stated those points in several other places.

Should have clearified that the creator of it has to have a premium time. Something similar to WoT. So new players could join a training room that was made public. Reason I say premium is that it honestly would be where i played the most if i had a group of friends and I would rarely run the normal matches if it was free. Only way I would do normal matches would be to pay for repairs.

Also you are looking at the training ground differently than I. More as a single player learning to control his mech. Which such a room is needed but thats not what i am talking about. I see it as a team training room that can be used for other things. Where you can set the map you want to play on and invite up to 8v8 or 12v12 when it gets here.

So lets say my unit wanted to have a solaris like tournament. they could set this room up and have an organized tournament that they didnt have to synch drop to have.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

I would pay for a balanced game... Where can we spend MC on ECM nerfs?

[The Government]

I would pay for more, and varied cockpit options. Custom control panels -- maybe something with more of a cyberpunk feel, a 1950's SCIENCE! feel, a scavenged tech feel -- wires, and sparks, and the 'Han Solo Classic' pound on a panel to get it working.

A little humor never hurts as well. I'd love a panel called 'The Jersey Special' that included a bunch of nonsensical buttons like "Receive Bacon", "Destroy the World" "Smite the World" "Headbutt" "Rip arms out of Sockets," Pounding," "More Pounding," "General Pummeling" and a steering wheel instead of the V-sticks.

Obviously, fuzzy dice are on the way... But I'd also pay for a rear view mirror. Reflecting the back of the cockpit, of course. Nothing really super-badass... just things to keep me amused.

For something more serious: Something as simple as a 3 pack of items called 'Coming Home (F)' : A photo of a woman stuck into the main control panel, hand written letter pinned to the side panel, and a woman's necklace hung around a top panel.

Something like that would take... 1 person say... 5 hours to go from Zero to Complete Dead simple. Nothing needs coding, nothing needs mapped in. Charge a few MC for the whole package and bingo -- Profit!

Custom Cockpit parts and skins seems like a very good idea to me... heck, People pay a pretty hefty sum in Star Trek: Online for custom bridges... the one place you hardly ever see in the game. Custom cockpits, though? People will jump at that in half a second, I tell you what.

Not yet, granted -- you fine folks still have (many) things to address, but looking at the future, you'll need to give out a lot of content to pay them bills.

[Rubidiy]

guys, seriously... this thread is about content, not about balance. Moaning about ECM just proves that you haven't experienced different tactics. Explore the game! Especially if you play with your friends. If there's anything that annoys me in ECM ravens is the fact that they are laggy as hell.

devs
ok. Once again. Players' ego.
I think they will pay more willingly for their outfit if you'll develop some sort of after match glory camera that shows best/survived pilots or any other way of distinction. Something where players would like to show off. A place where their mechs will be shown in all their glory (probably in their current state after the battle) and pilots themselves standing in front of/ sitting on top of their mechs. Here's the reason why they would like to see themselves in outfit more goodlooking than current cheesy texture of pilot suit.

Edited by Rubidiy, 04 March 2013 - 05:52 AM.