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[IceCase88]

Silly, Goons. There are no trolls in K-Town. Just posting. Masterful posting by the PLJ. We have perfected the art of posting. You post bad but we will make your posts better. You're welcome... it's what we do.

[fil5000]

its pretty clever that you posted an image of what you wanted to say instead of just some words. i also like that you chose something someone else had already said instead of something you thought of. good posting.

[IceCase88]

fil5000, on 21 May 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

its pretty clever that you posted an image of what you wanted to say instead of just some words. i also like that you chose something someone else had already said instead of something you thought of. good posting.

No matter what is said you guys will always think you are the victims even in the face of a good natured ribbing. I guess I am unoriginal and lazy.

[moderatepudding]

IceCase88, on 20 May 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

You can have ethics in online gaming.

no joke i remembered this as "ethnics" for some reason and that combined with your latest terrible posts and that picture made me think that you were some kind of weird (space?????) racist advocating for ethnic cleansing of goons or something. its 5:23 a.m. and i barely slept

Edited by moderatepudding, 22 May 2013 - 02:24 AM.

[fil5000]

IceCase88, on 22 May 2013 - 02:00 AM, said:

No matter what is said you guys will always think you are the victims even in the face of a good natured ribbing. I guess I am unoriginal and lazy.

oh no you spotted that i felt like a victim as a result of you posting a gif

wait no, the opposite

[IceCase88]

Would this be your group?

Wired chronicles pan-MMO griefing by Goons by Chris Chester on Jan 24th 2008 9:00AM EVE Online, Culture, Second Life As a general principle, it's not our focus here at Massively to highlight the exploits the griefers. We don't want to encourage bad behavior for one thing, but also most of the time the griefing that goes on is just so... pedestrian. That's why we're willing to make an exception for this cultural piece in Wired which turns the spotlight on the curious gaming sub-culture of Something Awful. Known collectively as Goons, members of Something Awful have developed smaller sub-communities of players in nearly every modern MMO, and while they have managed to get along peacefully in certain cases, in some games they gain a reputation for being, well... goons. The Wired article focuses specifically on their shenanigans in EVE Online and Second Life. Anybody whose played EVE Online in the past two years has no doubt become familiar with their style of play, as the aptly named Goonswarm Alliance makes up the most populous faction in the game, and they use their numbers to great effect in waging war. To give you an idea of their shtick, last year they launched a massive assault on and destroyed a massive Titan-class ship worth the real-world equivalent of $10,000 for no other reason than because it would demoralized their enemies, with the hope that they'd quit the game all together. Similarly, the exploits of another group of Goons in Second Life was so prolific, so persistent, and so offensive, that one SL mogul is quoted as calling them "terrorists." The article is a bit incomplete for my taste, as it doesn't include other Goon foibles like their prolific Star Wars: Galaxies presence nor does it really expound on the real consequences of the Goons' actions in Second Life, but the descriptions and characterizations the author does manage to bring together for EVE and SL are so bizzare, they're worth reading for a laugh, if nothing else. http://massively.joy...efing-by-goons/ http://www.wired.com...s?currentPage=1

4. Flight Master Disaster in the World of Warcraft

Goon Squad, a group of MMO troublemakers that originated from the Something Awful forums, recently pulled a stunt that invoked the wrath of the GMs (Game Masters) on the Mal'Ganis PvP server in World of Warcraft. Flight Masters are an essential part of the World of Warcraft, and Goon Squad knew this well. Low-level players depend on these NPCs to get from place to place quickly astride a winged beast, so "griefing" low-level players by killing Flight Masters over and over is a common tactic employed by PvP (Player vs. Player) fanatics. Normally, the Flight Masters will re-appear in a moment or two after being killed, and by the time they come back up, high-level players usually come and mop up any griefers.



Goon Squad had a different idea entirely on how to deny the Flight Masters to players on their server. A technique called "kiting" is employed to drag an NPC into a non-intended area. Kiting is used often as the key part of many player-griefing plots, such as dragging powerful bosses over to low-level zones so their spells wipe out legions and legions of newbies.



The squad engineered a plan to use kiting to keep the Flight Masters hostage, holding them in a perpetual living state, but pulling them far away enough from the town or city so players cannot access them. The forums grew alit with hatred as Goon Squad demanded 3000 gold coins in return for their Flight Masters. Before Goon Squad was able to seal the deal, the game administrators intervened, applauding them for their inventive tactics, but making them understand that kidnapping Flight Masters just wasn't cool.




1. EVE Online Titan Jihad

In the single most fiscally destructive act of online griefing of all time, Goonswarm, the EVE Online branch of Goon Squad, engineered a plot to take down a Titan, the largest and most expensive class of ship in EVE Online's expansive world. What made this act even more laughable was that it was done with the lowest class of ship in the game; this class of ship includes T1 frigates and cruisers, which are given new players to start off their long journey in the galaxy.

Goonswarm's ideology has always been strength in numbers, and so they organized a terrifying raid on the game with thousands of low-class ships that would wreak havoc and destruction in the name of twisted entertainment. They had long terrorized systems with their superior numbers and seemingly endless resources. The hivemind contributed a neverending supply of ore, guns, and other materials to fuel their online crusade for lulz. Owning the largest corporation in the game, Goonfleet, Goonswarm was able to propel their swarm into the furthest reaches of space.

http://thisorthat.co...ok-the-internet

Edited by IceCase88, 22 May 2013 - 03:19 AM.

[Kaio-Kerensky x10]

You posted a summary of a post from another site. Truly, we could learn from this.

[fil5000]

IceCase88, on 22 May 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

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To give you an idea of their shtick, last year they launched a massive assault on and destroyed a massive Titan-class ship worth the real-world equivalent of $10,000 for no other reason than because it would demoralized their enemies, with the hope that they'd quit the game all together.
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Before Goon Squad was able to seal the deal, the game administrators intervened, applauding them for their inventive tactics, but making them understand that kidnapping Flight Masters just wasn't cool.
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In the single most fiscally destructive act of online griefing of all time, Goonswarm, the EVE Online branch of Goon Squad, engineered a plot to take down a Titan, the largest and most expensive class of ship in EVE Online's expansive world. What made this act even more laughable was that it was done with the lowest class of ship in the game; this class of ship includes T1 frigates and cruisers, which are given new players to start off their long journey in the galaxy.
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those sure are some examples of goons playing games.

[SPencil]

Ice is in denial. He thinks he's winning.

It's so sad, yet so funny. Depressingly funny. Tragically amusing. Dishearteningly entertaining.

I love it. MOAR!

[IceCase88]

Silly, Goons. Lying and making yourself victims is for kids. I guess you cannot be honest about dirty and nefarious plans.

Edited by IceCase88, 22 May 2013 - 10:22 AM.

[fil5000]

memes are pro, guys

[Blue Footed Booby]

IceCase88, on 21 May 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Silly, Goons. There are no trolls in K-Town. Just posting. Masterful posting by the PLJ. We have perfected the art of posting. You post bad but we will make your posts better. You're welcome... it's what we do.

Truly, you are a master. Absolutely no one knew that you were trolling at any prior point in this thre-

Blue Footed Booby, on 20 May 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

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What you're doing with this post is totally avoiding stating whether you yourself believe goons are ill-mannered trolls, while claiming to just be asking questions for the sake of the community on behalf of someone who does. This smells very, very strongly of arguing in bad faith. In fact, there's a widely used term for exactly this form of argument: concern trolling.

IceCase88, as I'm sure you know the devs of Eve literally encourage players to lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead as long as it stays within the confines of the game. As such, it doesn't really make sense to accuse goons of "griefing" when they're turning a profit from their activity.

If you want an example of goon butt-hattery in Eve the example you want to use is Jihad Squad, which consisted of bored players who'd waste in game currency repeatedly suicide-bombing miners, and sending in-game ultimatums announcing that they'll only stop if the victim posts a lengthy essay on some random asinine topic like the rule of fascism in the popularity of accordion music.

I knew about this all along, but instead of mentioning it I self-servingly pointed out that the burden of proof was on you because I suspected you didn't know about it. Who's the puppetmaster now?

Edited by Blue Footed Booby, 22 May 2013 - 10:24 AM.

[fil5000]

[octatonic]

I am victimized by massive anti goon bias in this game. I am a victim and my suffering is out of my hands. I now realizing that I do not have control over my life and that I should place my fate and faith in a higher power. It is the first step in healing, and it's liberating. Thank you for empowering my to take control of my life.

My forums handle is Octatonic and I am a Goon. It is a disease, uncurable, that will be with me for the rest of my life, but as of today, I am moving forward. Thank you everyone. Namaste~

[Ter Ushaka]

It's ok Octatonic, you're among friendsassociateswell-wisherspeoplehumansGoons.

Edited by Ter Ushaka, 22 May 2013 - 02:06 PM.

[WWWWWWWWWWWWW]

IceCase88' said:

**** GOONS!
No just kidding guys! You guys get riled up so easily omg!
(but seriously **** goons)

[fil5000]

octatonic, on 22 May 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

I am victimized by massive anti goon bias in this game. I am a victim and my suffering is out of my hands. I now realizing that I do not have control over my life and that I should place my fate and faith in a higher power. It is the first step in healing, and it's liberating. Thank you for empowering my to take control of my life.

My forums handle is Octatonic and I am a Goon. It is a disease, uncurable, that will be with me for the rest of my life, but as of today, I am moving forward. Thank you everyone. Namaste~

This man can help you :

http://www.gosupereg...udge-claughlin/

[moderatepudding]

octatonic, on 22 May 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

I am victimized by massive anti goon bias in this game. I am a victim and my suffering is out of my hands. I now realizing that I do not have control over my life and that I should place my fate and faith in a higher power. It is the first step in healing, and it's liberating. Thank you for empowering my to take control of my life.

My forums handle is Octatonic and I am a Goon. It is a disease, uncurable, that will be with me for the rest of my life, but as of today, I am moving forward. Thank you everyone. Namaste~

[MechFrog1]

Quote

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http://en.wikipedia..../SomethingAwful

Edited by mint frog, 22 May 2013 - 06:26 PM.

[WWWWWWWWWWWWW]

Speaking of Google and apropos of nothing, Icecase88 what is your opinion on gun rights?

Edited by WWWWWWWWWWWWW, 22 May 2013 - 06:37 PM.