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[Keifomofutu]

How bout no?

[Rokuzachi]

Good lord people. Read a page or two before you continue gnashing your teeth at nothing.

Garth Erlam, on 16 November 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Just to make sure everyone, well, actually read that and listened to what Russ said, we don't plan to add 3rd person. We're looking at what it would require of us if we did.

[Boswelli]

Well, the holy inquisition has spoken - burn all those heretics who pray to the wrong god

[nitra]

Rokuzachi, on 16 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

You mean, this?

GenDread, on 16 November 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

page 3 or 4 garth posted this ...

Posted Today, 03:39 PM
Just to make sure everyone, well, actually read that and listened to what Russ said, we don't plan to add 3rd person. We're looking at what it would require of us if we did.

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We're looking at what it would require

Answer:


It would require to much.

Thus why people are still discussing this.

[Like a Sir]

Rokuzachi, on 16 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

You mean, this?

GenDread, on 16 November 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

page 3 or 4 garth posted this ...

Posted Today, 03:39 PM
Just to make sure everyone, well, actually read that and listened to what Russ said, we don't plan to add 3rd person. We're looking at what it would require of us if we did.

Thank you, that is looking better. At the office right now, and that web-site is firewalled for me. If that is indeed the case, I retract my snide remark and apologize.

[Roh]

I don't want third person in the game. I just don't. Any way to do it that wouldn't give them a noticeable advantage would have to be fairly complex probably take a bunch of fixes and tweaks I don't want to go through. And to even attempt it would take time and effort away from more important features that we all were told we would get when we pre-ordered our founders packs. Sort of like we were told this would be a first person only experience. It sort of annoys me just a little that it's even being considered.

Nothing I can really do about it though. I just hope it doesn't come and get so stupid that it drives me away from the game. Would really be a lose for me.

[Sagamore]

You don't like 3rd person because it makes the game too accessible to more casual players and adds an unfair advantage? I say thats fine but then lets get rid of keyboard and mouse support for the game and force everyone to use a joystick.

I love all these whiners about keeping the game realistic and "sim" like when they are using a keyboard and mouse to play the game.

Where in Battletech canon does it state that Mechwarriors used keyboards and mice to pilot their Battlemechs??

If there is a Forced First-Person mode I want a Forced Joystick mode. I don't want to play against FPS noobs who prefer keyboard and mouse. I want to play against hardcore, joystick players.

[Egomane]

Rokuzachi, on 16 November 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Good lord people. Read a page or two before you continue gnashing your teeth at nothing.

Maybe you should ask yourself: Why are they researching it, if they have no plans on implementing it?

[Stormscions]

All for it.

[nitra]

Sagamore, on 16 November 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

You don't like 3rd person because it makes the game too accessible to more casual players and adds an unfair advantage? I say thats fine but then lets get rid of keyboard and mouse support for the game and force everyone to use a joystick.

I love all these whiners about keeping the game realistic and "sim" like when they are using a keyboard and mouse to play the game.

Where in Battletech canon does it state that Mechwarriors used keyboards and mice to pilot their Battlemechs??

If there is a Forced First-Person mode I want a Forced Joystick mode. I don't want to play against FPS noobs who prefer keyboard and mouse. I want to play against hardcore, joystick players.

well they would have to implement working joystick controls first .

[BalzaSteel]

Rokuzachi, on 16 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Yup, gets pretty old. The consensus seems to be that even if they could implement a non-exploitable 3rd person, that it'd still be horrible and immersion breaking (I don't know either why people care so much about other people's gameplay).

...snip...

actually the consensus seems to be that it is impossible to create an unexploitable 3pv, that the only reason antbody wants it is to get an unfair advantage and avoid putting in the time and effort required to actually learn to play the game, if you believe otherwise, well, your entitled to your opinion, along with the other 1 in 25 who feels the same way as you, you'll find them crouched just below the crest of a hill peeking over it with thier 3pv.

BalzOut

[FactorlanP]

Have you had 2700 people ask for it?

Do we all need to e-mail PGI to request that you DON'T do it? Would that help you any? I'm willing to bet we can get a pretty good e-mail campaign going if that is what moves you guys.

Where are all of these requests?

Where are all of these people? Why haven't they expressed their opinions here on the forum?

Honestly Garth, I call total BS.

[Bigboij]

3rd person for spectating after death and nothing else

[lsp]

Where are these requests you speak of? I never see anyone saying, man this game needs a third person!

All I can is no, and hell no.

[GLotsapot]

My personal opinion is to keep this out of the game while you're playing. But give us the option of 3rd person when we're spectating to follow in 3rd person. This way we can fully enjoy those beautiful models while we're dead, without giving people who are still playing an advantage.

Just my 2 cents at least.

[Twisted Power]

A sim cannot be if it does not sim. So unless you want to make pretend that mechs are remote controlled toys, no matter how you spin it, 3PV is NOT sim. Unless you are speaking somthing other then english.

Edited by Twisted Power, 16 November 2012 - 04:40 PM.

[Gowan]

nitra, on 16 November 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

i fail to see how less than 9% can be considered huge...

Firstly, the polls on the forums are only polling the members of the gaming community that read the forums, and that's traditionally less than 5% of the playing population. We also tend to respond better than the majority to increased levels of challenge -- it's how we roll.

Secondly (and this is directed at most of the folks complaining), calm down. Oh no, we got a dev post telling us that more information is forthcoming! Let's all complain about it!

You can't have it both ways -- you can't whine about a lack of transparency coming from the Devs and then turn around and complain when the small announcements they give us aren't fulfilling our every wish.

What did this post tell us? It told us that they are aware of the complaints and that more info is on the way. So take it at fact value.

Look, there are plenty of ways to make a third-person camera work without affording an unfair advantage. You could simply not display anything that you couldn't detect from first-person. You could make it a module unlock, a sort of UAV (which could perhaps be shot down?) that floats above and behind your machine.

The point is, PGI probably gets that we don't want to enable corner-peeking with the third-person camera. We've made it abundantly clear (and for the record, I'm solidly against it) that we don't like the idea. Now, we let PGI tell us what they're planning to do, and then we judge from there.

[Krazyjim]

This is PGI






Thanks!!!

[G4M3R]

If they really CARED about new players, it's called a F-ing TUTORIAL. Jeebus.

And WHY work on a feature that nobody wants?! We have dozens of bugs that need addressing. This is so dumb.

[Brien]

Talk out of the side of your mouth much Garth, you research this but still have crap joystick support. Y'all claimed JS support was low priority even though people actually requested it yet we have not seen masses of request for 3rdthe person. How about finishing your game before you research crap y'all said you wouldn't do.