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[pencilboom]

For people that doesn't want to grow and go forward then yes. It's your end of story

[Kenyon Burguess]

afaik all/most of the games you listed lacks competitive play pencilboom. 3rd person gives a players an unfortunate advantage to see more than a first person player. the limited nature of first person adds a lot to the MechWarrior experience and forces a high degree of skill into the mobility and kiting of the game. if one team can switch to third person for the advantage, it forces everyone to do that same to compete on an even field. that's why so many players are against it.

[Jetfire]

Simple.

UAV consumable? Sure, I mean UAV or ARTY? That's a choice.
Training grounds? Sure, makes perfect sense.
ARCADE MODE option? Sure, War Thunder does this nicely, though I would make it earn no CB/EXP
Keep it out of the normal game AND Community Warfare.

Edited by Jetfire, 21 March 2013 - 05:20 AM.

[Godswrath]

Harald Blackwell, on 16 November 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I can't think of any way that I wouldn't be affected by having an opponent enjoying the advantages of 3rd person view while I restricted myself to 1st person. I don't want it, but offering it will affect me.

Im sure there is a way in which the peripheral view distance can be such that there wouldn't be an advantage or much of to the 3rd person player. I prefer 1st person as well but I have some friends that were hoping for a 3rd person option..perhaps they just like to look at their mech whilst in combat I don't know....I do know that they aren't hardcore battle-tech vets so I doubt that there is an underlying need to have an advantage. I'm just saying, perhaps it could be an over the shoulder view where you wont see much left or right any more than the cockpit guy see's ? just my pondering's

I wish there was an option to review replays from a free floating camera personally....however I also know that certain ingame camera angles can lead to severe exploitation from dead players.

[Ph30nix]

this might have already been said, but third person view would realy kill some tactics,

it would allow people to see over certain terrain,
it would allow people to catch those sneaking up on them sooner
it would allow them to keep an eye on the location of any Lights attacking them
it would also allow them to very quickly and easily notice when other mechs come to attack them while they are focused on another target.


Basicly to me Third person mode = nooby vision.

The only reason you could realisticly want to have third person view is to have an easier game and have an advantage over those not using it. which frankly is pathetic on an astronomical level and i question your integrity and would question any achievments that you could have possibly cheated at.....

[Thuzel]

IF (Notice the big if) it were implemented in a way that gives absolutely no tactical advantage to anyone using it, I could live with it.

Otherwise, I probably won't play for all the jump sniping that would result. Pop-tarting is already bad enough, no need to help it along.

[Jacmac]

No to 3rd person. That is all...

[Runenstahl]

Simple truth: some people like it, some people don't like it.

No amount of arguments will be able to change people from one faction to the other.

In the end we will just have to wait how it is implemented. All we can do now is speculate.

IF they decide to implement it in a way you don't like... too bad for you.
IF they decide NOT to implement it after trying it out but you would very much like to have it... too bad for you.

Some people will "loose" on this and some will win. The dev's can't make a decision that will please everyone. What they will do is make a decision that (they think) will be best for the game as a whole.

[Eric darkstar Marr]

I must say that 3rd person would be terrible and they are just giving in to the entitled younger crowd. While they may be trying to get a cash grab form the younger crowd, those in their thirties that love battletech have a larger disposable income overall.

If I see a command post on it I will be done no more cash from me period. I have many other games I can help "fund" in place of this game and it seems more and more people are like me in this aspect.

Personally I have $300 a month budgeted for games and MWO is one of them it is anywhere from $25 to $150 a month and while it may not be whale spending it will still hurt them when the many others like myself ditch the game to move on.
3rd person = no more money ever from me!

Edited by Eric darkstar Marr, 21 March 2013 - 06:38 AM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

pencilboom, on 21 March 2013 - 05:05 AM, said:

For people that doesn't want to grow and go forward then yes. It's your end of story

3rd person isnt grow its die.

[Mechteric]

Maybe its that 3rd person will only be available in training grounds? Until we get a real statement there's little point in speculating about much else.

[Jacmac]

Runenstahl, on 21 March 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

IF they decide to implement it in a way you don't like... too bad for you.

Not really, I have a boatload of gaming options. I've already put MWO on hold except for competition and training with my crew. ARMA 3 has a lot of my attention right now. If PGI puts in 3rd person and it makes any difference in gameplay, MWO will lose a bunch of players like me. Maybe they can afford that, maybe they want a more FPS crowd, I don't know, but I won't be hanging around feeling like it was too bad they did it. I'll just be gone.

[Sybreed]

If 3rd person doesn't give an advantage to someone who uses it over someone who doesn't, I might be fine with it. Otherwise, it would be a huge detriment to the game.

It would be like a soft version of a wallhack in counter-strike...

[Thirdstar]

I was told that I should come and provide feedback about 3rd person in this thread that the Devs will never even visit. Because you know reasons.

[SixstringSamurai]

I'm super excited that I get to finally play World of Mech Assault Elite Online.......cause we all know the Mech Assault games were the most awesome Mechwarrior games ever! I mean why would you emulate the regular successful Mechwarriors 1-4 when you can have an awesome game like Mech Assault. I might even break out an Xbox controller to you know, keep it real.

[Damocles69]

No to **** person... that is all

[Mao of DC]

WHOOT!!!! 100 pages for silly 3rd person filled will silly arguments for 3rd person!!! Thank you to everyone who helpped to made this a reality.

Edited by Mao of DC, 21 March 2013 - 07:22 AM.

[Tice Daurus]

The problem is it's not being scared to change. I think some of us are, but that's not the point to wanting 3rd person. 3rd person drastically alters the game. If you have 15 other guys playing 1st person and that last person plays with 3rd person in the game, and you're trying to sneak up on the guy to shoot him in the back, he can see that. Thus it give that person an edge, and he can turn around and foil your attempt to sneak up on the guy behind him, thus causing you to be at a disadvantage.

3rd person drastically alters the game. Now...if you had it specifically set to run for say allowing an all 3rd person game for people to play with other 3rd person people, fine. Or if you set up an air drone to scout the area, and it happens to catch you in view of 3rd person as it scours the battlefield because you have it set us as a module for mastery level AND you have to have a command console in your mech, that's fine too. But you paid the GXP to have the module to gain that 3rd person view for a short period of time, and that's ok.

But to put 3rd person players mixed in directly with 1st person players destroys the game, it destroys the integrity of the game, and if they ALLOW this to happen, I'm done spending any more money once this goes into play and PGI were to allow this to happen.

So far it seems to be an overwhelming amount of people want it to stay as 1st person with no changes, like a 95 percent rough estimated rating of people who just want 1st person ONLY. If PGI caters to the small 5 percent, are they willing to offend the other 95 percent of the people and risk total alienation of their core players? I think not. There has to be a balance that's acceptable to allow a small 3rd viewing into the game, like viewing your mech, but in a way that if you are scanning 3rd person, you can't move your mech or operate it while doing so, causing a disadvantage for viewing 3rd person, like say an air drone scouting the battlefield or a satellite view.

Bottom line, when you have nearly 95 percent of your core players telling you they don't want 3rd person except possibly in a limited view, you need to be listening to the overwhelming majority and say the hell with the other 5 percent.

Edited by Tice Daurus, 21 March 2013 - 07:25 AM.

[SixstringSamurai]

Looks like I need to go to Walmart and buy some Sharpie markers.

[Huoshini]

Plz no third person k thnks?

Why don't you use that big list of accounts and send an email to each one...you know...a mass market email....and set up a survey for future features. LIKE THIRD PERSON VIEW. And get an accurate poll on what your customers want. Not just us forumites.

And don't hide the freking results. Post them up and be honest with us.