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[Vulture2k]

Rashhaverak, on 04 March 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Not sure yet, and I doubt that you can be sure either. We have to see what the consumables are for air strikes and artillery strikes and what they do before that question can be answered with any legitimacy.

ok, lets keep it neutral because we dont know what stuff does

you can hold 2 things in your hand, one guy has a small apple, and a medium apple

the other one has large apple and a large pizza...

now if you are hungry, which one would you chose? -.- its obvious the mc stuff will always be better

[Eric darkstar Marr]

Its not P2W you whiny lot of children, in fact the cbill versions are much better as you get 2 uses per one in a match compared to a one time dump from MC.

Seriously stupid people make me sad and angry the vast ignorance is to damn high.

[Hawkwings]

But that's the counter to everything!

[Joe Mallad]

better option here...
http://mwomercs.com/...or-consumables/

Edited by Yoseful Mallad, 04 March 2013 - 04:55 PM.

[OneEyed Jack]

Deamhan, on 04 March 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

However, I'm not so sure if consumable is necessary. Limited to one use per match I can understand but consumable doesn't really fit. They removed RnR and I see these single crit space "modules" as ammo for heat sinks. So while you can run out of ammo in a match (giving these their one time use per match), you don't have to pay to replenish your ammo and so you shouldn't have to pay to replenish these.

You can carry these and never use them. That's not really a very viable option for ammo.

[JohnoBurr]

Who said we don't want to invest a penny? Uh, sorry, I already invested a lot of pennies. Just because I don't want some bullsh*t consumables means I don't want to spend a penny? Go f**k yourself.

[Karr285]

yea the 15% has 1 use the 20% has 1 use the 35% has 1 use, they are all 1 use.

[tuokaerf]

I don't really get the uproar over this, I'd rather have the two than the one. It could bail me out of two bad scenarios instead of just one.

It isn't P2W. If it was only available to MC players, then yes.

Otherwise, it's the same people bitching about the same stuff they ***** about all the time. Wait and see what happens over the next few weeks.

[Serapth]

Crazycajun, on 04 March 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

Jump off a bridge if your that upset that a developer is trying to move forwards with its game design..

you people act like you run this show ...

Um, paying customers do run the show. Enough of us leave, no more MWO.

P2W will cause a huge loss of goodwill and as a result, customers. Let's hope they reconsider their current move, but given the way they responded to the screw up named ECM, I highly doubt they will admit a mistake when they make one.

[KovarD]

Josef Nader, on 04 March 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

You have 4 module slots. I have 4 module slots.

You have:
Coolant 1
Coolant 2
Airstrike 1
Airstrike 2

I have
Coolant 3
Airstrike 3
Arty 3
Module of my choice

Guess who's got the upper hand (assuming relatively equal skill level).

Thread closed.

[Hekalite]

Everyone should freak out when the numbers on only proposed. This is exactly the time to raise a stink.

[Kaspirikay]

Darius Deadeye, on 04 March 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

This isn't P2W. This won't change a damn thing. If anything, it'll cripple whoever decides to sacrifice a passive module for a one-off coolant flush.

Keep sharing your tears, I feed on them.

Yeah okay, after I air strike you and triple alpha you with 6 ppcs.

[Stoicblitzer]

WerewolfX, on 04 March 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Seriously PGI? Not happy, not happy at all. I supported your endeavor from the get go I defended the majority of decisions. You spoke about the importance of player skill. The importance of managing your heat, of watching your ammo, of aiming your weapons, of facing your fresh armor towards the enemy, and totally awesome player experience I get from piloting a mech. I played WoT I suffered through that damn game untill my face was red from rage of the Gold ammo killing me in one blast simply cause some guy could afford to whip out his wallet and get the best stuff in the game. This removes all of the core tennets you as a developer said. I'm sorry, if you keep on this track I'm sure many others agree and will also disagree though I can't see your playerbase growing from this. This is a shattering of trust for many and I for one can't see why this decision with the coolant flush was made.

hey man. I don't think that has really changed. Let's wait and see before we jump to conclusions.

[Vividos]

Josef Nader, on 04 March 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

You have 4 module slots. I have 4 module slots.

You have:
Coolant 1
Coolant 2
Airstrike 1
Airstrike 2

I have
Coolant 3
Airstrike 3
Arty 3
Module of my choice

Guess who's got the upper hand (assuming relatively equal skill level).

dont care.
it's not game breaking.
and the c-bill version is better.

so really you have no point.

Hekalite, on 04 March 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Everyone should freak out when the numbers on only proposed. This is exactly the time to raise a stink.

the proposed numbers say the c-bill version is better.
are you saying you want the MC version to be better?

Edited by Vividos, 04 March 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

F*cking Nay

[Oni Ralas]

Normally I'd just enjoy the show, but this is absurd. People getting all doom and gloom over the new dyamic introduced in an IP? Really?

So ******* what if they have a cosumable based in MC? Have you actually *read* the notes? it's pathetic in it's own right, and doesn't equate to an i-win button by any stretch. Folks are raving about the "It's going to be WoT!" -- last time I checked, WoT was actually a successful IP. I'm all for that - I'll do what ever it takes to get my ******* mech pew pew on. I personally don't see the pure WoT model implimentation (and no, please don't make the logical fallacy of appeal of probability based on todays announcement) implimented, but even if it was --- can you guys seriously not stomach the idea of paying money for something you *like to play*? FFS... most people I know will blow 3 bucks a day on a coke and not pay it any mind, but shell out a buck for some MC? Ohhhhh no, **** PGI right?

I want my mechs. I want my clans. I want some epic community warfare action that spans years of fun drunken fighting. If I have to derp around with someone claiming to be the ubermench because he's got a 10% buff on his coolent...then so be it.

Flame away (they don't work right now anyway)

[Royalewithcheese]

IMO a 1/round 35% coolant flush won't change much in terms of what is a good robot or not, because you're going to be shooting at stuff more than once in an average round.

[Chrithu]

I'm on the Edge of both.

At first glance at Pauls post I was freaked and shocked too. Then I reread it and the clarification he posted. As the MC versions are not flat out superior (same effect at a trade off in both variants}, just different and maybe more convenient for some because they get to keep that Super Zoom or Target Retention, I would not call them P2W items.

BUT. With those consumables being different when bought for MC rather than CB PGI is entering a mine field. The danger of becoming P2W is getting greater now and the current reaction of the forum community shows just how little desire there is to have another P2W game.

[Orzorn]

Mechs with only one slot get shafted. They have to get the tier 3 coolant to be on the same level as any other coolant user.

[Lazydrones541]

Anyway.. If you need to "pay" to use coolant flush...... Lols.. Consumables for money..