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[CMGrendel]

Hey, if you can buy modular armour too, it'll all balance out.

[Strelitzia]

Rayzor, on 04 March 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

As I've said before, I would be laughing so hard at this rage right now but these people are actually serious...

All of this arguing is just a waste of energy, you are not convincing anyone. If you like the game then keep supporting it and playing it. If you don't like the game then take your business elsewhere and stop wasting your time and energy.

Forums are so inefficient...

Just like how democracy is inefficient, just let whoever is in control do whatever they want.

[RiceyFighter]

It is P2W because C-BIll version takes up 2 module slots while MC version takes up 1 module slot.

Example:

F2P: Coolant (1), Coolant (2), Airstrike (1), AirStrike (2)

P2W: Coolant (3), Airstrike (3), Module 1, Module 2

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This is what people are mad about. The model that this mechanic is completely over powered. PGI promised it will never turn into a P2W game, but it keeps towing the line little by little.

Edited by RiceyFighter, 04 March 2013 - 04:58 PM.

[Commander Kobold]

Broad5ide, on 04 March 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

that's what master is for...


1 uses vs 2 uses. I fixed your post

you may get multiple uses but your both your uses are weaker than the "p2w" variants

[Ardney]

benth, on 04 March 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

There is no large c-bill version.

Indeed. I meant 'larger', as in larger of the 2 C-Bill variants. Regardless, I'm sure you knew what I meant.

And we'll just have to agree to disagree about instant heat dissipation being 'ridiculous'. Finite use per match at the cost of a module slot is fine, IMO.

[Kunae]

Lazydrones541, on 04 March 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Anyway.. If you need to "pay" to use coolant flush...... Lols.. Consumables for money..

WoT has built a successful business-model around just that sort of thing.

[JokerVictor]

OP in a nutshell.

Edited by JokerVictor, 04 March 2013 - 05:01 PM.

[Joe Mallad]

better option here...
http://mwomercs.com/...or-consumables/

[KharnZor]

Crazycajun, on 04 March 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

Jump off a bridge if your that upset that a developer is trying to move forwards with its game design..

you people act like you run this show ...

No. You act like you run the show. Who are you to say this guy cant express his own opinion.
Now go sit in a corner.

[Targetloc]

I think the "assuming 10 heatsinks" part is irrelevant.

It's 15% of your total heat capacity according to Paul.

[Mackman]

Can you explain to me how this is any different than if PGI decided to sell, say, a Large Laser that only took up one crit, instead of two, and it was MC only? Or an Engine that took up one less crit? How about a weapon that only took up half a hardpoint? Isn't that piece of equipment better in every single way than the one that takes up more crits?

This is actually more imbalanced than that example, because most mechs have 2-4 module slots, meaning that the MC one giving you 100% better slot efficiency than the CB one is a much, much bigger deal. And the problem will only become worse and worse as more consumables are added in. Want both Coolant Flush and Airstrike? Better be prepared to spend dem monies, son, because otherwise, you're going to be at a significant (and objectively measurable) disadvantage to someone who spent MC.

[Eisenhorne]

BigJim, on 04 March 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

If those atlases are walking in LoS of a 6x PPC stalker they deserve to get slagged.

if you're playing the level of opponent who walk in LoS of a 6x PPC stalker, you don't even need any bonuses.

The 6 PPC stalker (at least mine anyway) is faster and more manuverable than any atlas.

Unless its river city, I don't see an atlas being able to avoid a triple alpha strike from a 6PPC stalker, which should maim it (not kill, because unless the atlas pilot is a moron he can always torso twist to spread the shots out)

[Brothergrimm]

I think almost everything about the planned consumable system sounds wrong so far, BUT it is just intellectually dishonest to act like 35% immediate heat dump ONCE per match is the same as having 0.6 more cooling per heat sink passively the entire match. Those aren't even in the same ballpark of total effect on the game.

[Shumabot]

A classic!

Edited by Shumabot, 04 March 2013 - 04:58 PM.

[vrok]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 04 March 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Its not P2W you whiny lot of children, in fact the cbill versions are much better as you get 2 uses per one in a match compared to a one time dump from MC.

Seriously stupid people make me sad and angry the vast ignorance is to damn high.

Learn to read before calling other people stupid. Seriously.

[stjobe]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 04 March 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Its not P2W you whiny lot of children, in fact the cbill versions are much better as you get 2 uses per one in a match compared to a one time dump from MC.

Seriously stupid people make me sad and angry the vast ignorance is to damn high.

What, like your ignorance of the fact that there's several 'mech variants out there that only have a single module slot?

[Stoicblitzer]

haruko, on 04 March 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I'm going to post this in every thread until you guys understand that it's not a 35% flat rate.

Thanks for posting this. so 20 Heatsinks doubles coolant flush effectiveness or halves it or something else?

[Strelitzia]

Coolant flush is only the beginning.

[Mackman]

double post....

Edited by Mackman, 04 March 2013 - 04:58 PM.

[Tennex]

why are you entitled to a group of entitled people to play this game with

they are going to leave.

you arn't entitled to a successful game.