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[DocBach]

I don't use newegg because the tax here in ca. I buy components from tigerdirect - either way parts are on their way, will be here tues. the power supply and case together cost less than just the rosewill case, not to mention a corsair psu.

Edited by DocBach, 03 January 2013 - 12:12 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

DocBach, on 03 January 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

I don't use newegg because the tax here in ca. I buy components from tigerdirect - either way parts are on their way, will be here tues.

Ah, well then I guess that makes my trying to recommend anything pointless then. And sometimes even with tax things can be cheaper on newegg I've found. Anyhow, best of luck with the build.

[DocBach]

That rosewill case would be the bees knees though, could fit a closed loop cooler since it can mount 120mm fans. Oh well, we'll see how this budget mini build works, at least we can chalk it up to science as an experiment... I see a lot of budget build discussion but rarely any micro atx budget gaming discussion.

[Vulpesveritas]

DocBach, on 03 January 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

That rosewill case would be the bees knees though, could fit a closed loop cooler since it can mount 120mm fans. Oh well, we'll see how this budget mini build works, at least we can chalk it up to science as an experiment... I see a lot of budget build discussion but rarely any micro atx budget gaming discussion.

That's because a standard ATX mid-tower is a better buy and isn't much larger in general and having a smaller - sized full power gaming rig is more of a niche product.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

DV McKenna, on 02 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

It should be ok, the 6100 scores around the 30 FPS mark in the benchmark above and that was on the poor bulldozer design, and as much as i think that benchmark has errors in it, it is currently the only information we have.

In theory a 6300 and 7850 should be fine, and likely will be fine, once PGI sort out the optimization.

one thing i have heard, is the stock CPU cooler is pretty crap ( dunno if AMD changed them lately) so if you can budget for a cheap after market cooler like the Hyper Evo 212

Sadly all stock AMD CPU coolers are somewhat craptacular. They work decently but expect them to run over 50 C. I second the motion to look into an aftermarket cooler as soon as money and/or time allows.

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DV McKenna, on 02 January 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

Any testbed information we can get of Piledriver is useful, obviously in a sensible format, 720p,1080p basically anything that is a standard resolution anyone may game at, and depending on peoples timescales, different game settings so we can see what is going on.

Well in that case I'll look into grabbing one of those Powercolor Tahiti LEs then. Probably wil be next month, and the forthcoming patch or patches might change some of the relevance, but I am genuinely curious to try this and see how it goes.

Couple questions though first.
A - How exactly should I test this. What data points would be preferred? Before / after FPS, or something more detailed? I assume the latter, if so, let me know which ones and I'll start up a spreadsheet.
B - If someone could explain or point me to an explanation of what exactly 720p and 1080p are I'll check to make sure I can test in one of those formats. I am not hip on those terms yet but would be happy to learn.

Once I have answers on both I can probably start gathering "before" data.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 03 January 2013 - 06:37 PM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Essentially the data contained in the charts on the previous page, Minimum and Average FPS. (ps. don't spend money on what you didnt plan too not worth paying for the results )

1080P - 1920*1080 Resolution
720P - 1280*720

Edited by DV McKenna, 04 January 2013 - 01:09 AM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

DV McKenna, on 04 January 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Essentially the data contained in the charts on the previous page, Minimum and Average FPS. (ps. don't spend money on what you didnt plan too not worth paying for the results )

1080P - 1920*1080 Resolution
720P - 1280*720

Thanks DV. As far as not buying something I didn't plan to, I've been considering it, I just hadn't decided. I'm still not certain which GPU I'll get but I've mostly settled on the idea of a Tahiti LE card, and frankly I'm itching to upgrade from the APU.

EDIT I should also mention that my monitor cannot go above resolution of 1680x1050, so yeah, I'll only be able to see how it goes with 720p.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 04 January 2013 - 01:51 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 04 January 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

Thanks DV. As far as not buying something I didn't plan to, I've been considering it, I just hadn't decided. I'm still not certain which GPU I'll get but I've mostly settled on the idea of a Tahiti LE card, and frankly I'm itching to upgrade from the APU.

EDIT I should also mention that my monitor cannot go above resolution of 1680x1050, so yeah, I'll only be able to see how it goes with 720p.

720P is fine, it gives us a rough idea.

[Ghostrider0067]

I just bought a Corsair Carbide 550D and it's great. A nice combination of both silence and cooling. It's right up there with the Fractal Define R4 but costs a bit more. I *just* missed out on the Fractal while it was on sale @ Newegg for $80. Dammit.

[DocBach]

DocBach, on 19 December 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

i have an MSI GD55 in this case:



I now believe I have to get one of those olive drab and coyote Asus mobos to complete it, thanks for making me spend $200 more dollars guy

not only is it more aesthetically pleasing, the mem controller could handle all 32GB of my G.Skill Sniper 1866mhz RAM whereas the GD55 would freak out over anything more than 16.

[TheFlayedman]

That is a really impressive build the cables are no where to be seen not like in my computer lol. I really like the styling and look of that case but anandtech really slated it in their review. Mind you they are perfectionists.

Edited by TheFlayedman, 06 January 2013 - 03:33 PM.

[Faolan65]

Hey Vulpes, do you have any recommendations for a Micro ATX mobo to go with the 8320? for under $100?

[Oderint dum Metuant]

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131758

[Vulpesveritas]

I agree with DV's recommendation as your best bet.

[Youngblood]

DV McKenna, on 07 January 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131758

Vulpesveritas, on 07 January 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

I agree with DV's recommendation as your best bet.

Wouldn't recommend overclocking (in case you wanted to) on a board with no VRM cooling though. I'd recommend getting two packs of these and sticking them on the MOSFETs: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835708011 And then maybe cooling them off with a spot fan just to be obsessive-compulsive about it. And you WANT to be obsessive-compulsive about safety when you overclock.

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Minor update for you AM3+ guys: I'm about to stick this one into my case: http://www.newegg.co...k=GA-78LMT-USB3
It has a VRM heatsink, and I'm pretty sure no other mATX AMD motherboard does that right now. I'll let you know how it goes with my 125W Deneb Phenom II in couple of days, though of course that might not be the most complete kind of helpful info for a Piledriver user.

Edited by Youngblood, 07 January 2013 - 04:02 PM.

[GetinmyBellah]

Here's my home-build I completed awhile back that still is rocking down the road and I would highly recommend to this day (I don't do lotsa rendering, working with 3D software, etc. so I went with the i5 and still have no regrets). I avg 75-80fps in MWO with high settings, vsync off and motion blur off and in the thickest of battle it'll drop to 30-40fps at times. I have yet to encounter the 4fps bug and the yellow screen bug only pops it's up up maybe once or twice a week... otherwise the game plays great! (knocks on wood)

ALL components were purchased through Newegg except the cooler master excalibur class of fans that I upgraded all case fans with, including replacing the Antec920 Liquid Cooler stock fans - picked up the top of the line fans at a local tiger direct outlet (9 fans in total $67). My CPU temps never go above 30 degrees celcius regardless of the punishment to the CPU, and the inside of the case stays a nice average of 34 degrees celcius. With the TUF airflow system on the mainboard the VCORE and mainboard thermal points rarely see over 32 degrees celcius, if at all ~ I love this mainboard!

addendum: oh yeah, and I spent right around $2250USD and any part number below, or hardware for that matter can be looked up on newegg. Cheers!

• 1x Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Processor
  
• 1x ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
  
• 1x CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 CMZ16GX3M2A1866C10
  
• 1x EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP SLI Video Card
  
• 1x CORSAIR HX Series HX1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified
  
• 1x COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
  
• 3x Hanns-G HL272HPB Black 27" 2ms HDMI Widescreen LED Monitor
  
• 1x Antec KUHLER H2O 920 Liquid Cooling System
  
• 1x Logitech Z623 200 Watt 2.1 Speaker System, THX-Certified
  
• 1x Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional (70SB135600000) Sound Card
  
• 2x SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC SSD (OS RAID0)
  
• 2x Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC SSD (RAID0)
  
• 2x Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3/240G 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC SSD (external bays)
  
• 2x WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" HDD (external bays)
  
• 1x PLEXTOR Internal DVD Super Multi Black SATA Model PX-L890SA LightScribe Support

Edited by Vegentius, 08 January 2013 - 05:07 AM.

[DocBach]

So my cousin went all out and got a Gigabyte 7950 instead of the 7850 I thought he was going to get. I put it together last night but the hard drive I had was bad - got a new one today and reinstalled everything, so I'm waiting for the servers to come back to life to download MWO to see how it does. Last night it was getting around 30fps in the middle of fights but the hard drive utilization would shoot up to 100% with terrible HDD latency so it might run better with this new HDD.

[Maddog0266]

I have an logitech extreem pro and I do not know how to make it work in this ver of the game. Never had a problem in the other games before. How do I set it up for this game. Right now some things work but not correctly. The throthle works in reverse and when I go to turn it turns the body not the mech. Cant control the what fires what either.

Any help would be nice.
Thanks

[GetinmyBellah]

Newegg's customer service and RMA program would be enough for me to pay the taxes, but hey to each his own...

I had to RMA my mainboard within the first month, but it's insta-ASUS VIP so I had a new board NDA and sent the defaulted board back within a 14day period. Gotta love great support because it is so rare nowadays, which is why I always go EVGA/ASUS for my v-cards and mainboards. EVGA isn't kidding when they say lifetime warranty... eg: they replaced my 7950 two times due to artifacts, and 3 more times due to artifacts with 8800GTS cards when the 7950 became obsolete, and the 8800 is still covered to this day! However I no longer use it because I upgraded to 2x GTX 560 Ti's in SLI mode, then to a single GTX 670 FTW Editon which blows the former SLI setup out of the water, at least until I get another 670 hehe - just saying, EVGA/ASUS truly support their products, with incredible customer service, which is so very rare these days... unfortunately.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Holy mother of chrome. I guess it didn't hit me until now what they were using as the CPU, or more accurately, what they'd OC'd it to. Wow. Thought Ivy was supposed to be better? Ah well I'm not interested in Intel much but I must say I'm impressed.