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[ggators]

I just bought the CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle...thanks for the help

[Spokes]

I went to college with a five year old 2 button CH Flightstick many, many years ago. It didn't look like much compared to the brand new sidewinders the others were buying, but it was tough. Over the course of my dorm experience it was repeatedly dropped, sat upon, packed in boxes under textbooks and once thrown across the room. But it never failed to work perfectly. The gimbal connection offered very little resistance but was smooth as glass and would quickly snap to center if you let go of it. It was a very, very precise stick.

CH sticks don't look like much in a picture, but I wouldn't use anything else.

[BDThumper]

My system is older but I would put it up against any of these builds and it ran me about $1,200.00

3.2 GhZ AMD 1100T 8 core (O.C. 3.8)
16GB Corsair 1600 RAM
ASUS Crosshair V Motherboard.
1.5 TB WD HD
2 x 500GB WD HD (was just laying around)
2 x 120GB SSD Corsair
1 x 60GB SSD (Was just laying around)
Windows 7 professional 64 bit
Antec 900 case
850 Watt Power supply
2 x 5770 Radeon 1GB GDDR 3 (in crossfire) [probably upgrade it depending on what the fps is in game]

I put the 2 x 500GB WD HD and the 60 GB SSD in just because I could but I run the OS off of one of the 500GB drives and games off of the 120GB (111GB Available) SSD.

Edited by BDThumper, 21 July 2012 - 04:13 PM.

[Mr Whiskers]

Parazaine, on 14 June 2012 - 05:05 AM, said:

I know the Microsoft Sidewinder FFB2 is not commercially available any more but it is still possible to pick them up second hand....it's one of the better 'twist-sticks' and has FFB

I have always piloted mechs with a twist stick joystick (twist for torso twist) but i'm aware that many believe they can have more control with a combination of keyboard and mouse....I guess I will have to wait until i'm able to play to decide which is better

i have recently dusted off my FFB2 to get back in the saddle with MW4:M for the upcoming release of MWO. Still works great, even though its so old the rubber on the stick feels a bit tacky lol. But from what i have gathered on the forums stick support is not high on there list of things to do, well as of yet any ways. Do you think that support for the FFB2 is even viable? and how do i get the tacky texture off an old joystick handle?

Also, the level of immersion supplied by the FFB puts it on the top of the list of choice for me. One step closer to the cockpit.

Edited by Mr Whiskers, 21 July 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[Markardi]

I just bought the X52 Pro off ebay for $81! ($105 after shipping) It's brand new and never been used but the box is "distressed" so they couldn't sell it at the normal going price. Wonder if I was competing against anyone on here for it.

Well see how it performs with MWO.

I don't like using the wasd for throttle and rudder. As the mouse will be better for percision aiming, I almost want to try a left hand joystick with mouse. Maybe try a Cyborg V1 for that and pass the X52 to a flight sim friend.

[Arnkh]

Markardi, on 21 July 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I almost want to try a left hand joystick with mouse.

That's what I did once I realised I can't hit a mountain while aiming with joystick. The throttle slider is immensely better for controlling, well, throttle than keyboard, and as far as I can tell, you don't really need that many buttons to do things, in MW4 at least.

[Hellgardia]

BDThumper, on 21 July 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

My system is older but I would put it up against any of these builds and it ran me about $1,200.00

3.2 GhZ AMD 1100T 8 core (O.C. 3.8)
16GB Corsair 1600 RAM
ASUS Crosshair V Motherboard.
1.5 TB WD HD
2 x 500GB WD HD (was just laying around)
2 x 120GB SSD Corsair
1 x 60GB SSD (Was just laying around)
Windows 7 professional 64 bit
Antec 900 case
850 Watt Power supply
2 x 5770 Radeon 1GB GDDR 3 (in crossfire) [probably upgrade it depending on what the fps is in game]

I put the 2 x 500GB WD HD and the 60 GB SSD in just because I could but I run the OS off of one of the 500GB drives and games off of the 120GB (111GB Available) SSD.

The 1100T is a 6-core not an 8-core...

Still, that's a pretty beefy system you've got there ^^

If you have the budget the next thing one would upgrade there would be the graphics card.

[Skyefox]

Funny that Razor would be coming out with the Artemis.....


almost like they were competing against someone for a badass dual joystick controller with a large center panel....OH WAIT

Edited by Skyefox, 22 July 2012 - 07:27 AM.

[Kumakichi]

Mr Whiskers, on 21 July 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

i have recently dusted off my FFB2 to get back in the saddle with MW4:M for the upcoming release of MWO. Still works great, even though its so old the rubber on the stick feels a bit tacky lol. But from what i have gathered on the forums stick support is not high on there list of things to do, well as of yet any ways. Do you think that support for the FFB2 is even viable? and how do i get the tacky texture off an old joystick handle?

Also, the level of immersion supplied by the FFB puts it on the top of the list of choice for me. One step closer to the cockpit.

Not really sure about what support it might get. MS doesn't support it at all. Maybe the game will have some kind of generic drivers for a broad range of sticks. I'm hoping so or I'll probably go mouse/throttle for MWO. I'm not sure about the tacky rubber you mentioned. Mine doesn't have any rubber on it at all except for the foot pads. Its all hard plastic.

[Markardi]

Arnkh, on 21 July 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

That's what I did once I realised I can't hit a mountain while aiming with joystick.

Haha, that's what I'm worried about too! Which left friendly joystick are you using? And if you're using the throttle on it, what is your Y axis assigned to?

I pictured using the Y as throttle and X as rudder, leaving the mouse to handle aiming/torso. I know Hogarth mentioned holding the Y axis forward for 20min would be a pain, but as the rounds seem to be no more than 15min, it might not be a big issue. As I'm using a Logitech G700 mouse, adding a joystick to that should give more conveniently placed buttons than I'll need.

[Lettuce Prey]

Devouder, on 19 June 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

X-52 stick mechanics change - full metal, bearings, THIS is STURDY.
http://avia-sim.ru/f...topic.php?t=573

Cougar, pedals and more, creation and dissection - also there.

Sorry - Russian reality.

very interesting idea.
i ran it through google translate and enjoyed the discussion.

translated to english

[Shahadet]

Vulpesveritas, on 19 July 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

7/19/2012 update.

Anyone else think this should be pinned?

I would have no problem with pinning. But seriously, thanks for all the help Vulpes, your posts have been very interesting reading. As a complete and total newbie that really just wants to build a system to play MWO and Starcraft 2, they have been an invaluable resource. At some point in the near future, I'll probably throw up my own "Help building a system!" post with my ideas, and try and get some feedback. Thanks!

[shotokan5]

I have a thrustmaster t-flight Hotas X, I can set the new controls I want under options. But what buttons do you hit to have the changes stay their. By the time I get into the game the controls which have been done are gone. HELP. I have used the a x52 and this thrustmaster for every mech or battle tech game and never had a problem with both. Sadly the x52 get the extended warenty they brake like crazy. The thrustmaster in almost indistructable.

Please what do I do for it to keep the new codes.

[Vulpesveritas]

UPDATE: Due to the highly positive Techpowerup! review on the Rosewill Fortress series 80+ Platinum PSUs, and the increase of their warranty from one year to seven years, I will be changing the guide soon to reflect this.

[Falcorth]

now my idea monitor would be the wrap around 52" sectional HDTV like in some serious Flight Sims.. with mech like controllers with surround sound big ole bass speaker behind the chair.and midrange and tweeters placed in designated areaa around the screen so one would think they were in a actual mech

[Reaperinc]

Dont see the big deal. But have fun with it.

[Uri Brauer]

Markardi, on 22 July 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Which left friendly joystick are you using?

The T.16000M can be switched to lefty.

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

Thanks for this.

It answered a question I had about my new system almost immediately. Excellent work sir.

[kojdog]

Was anyone else really hoping that some esoteric aspect of mech design was being discussed here?

[CaptainAnt]

Thanks for posting this guide! I just purchased a T16000M and it's due to arrive on August 6 at the latest! Your guide was exactly what I needed to find the right joystick for me