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#701 Shammus

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:20 PM

View PostChiyeko Kuramochi, on 21 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

That is a lot of Asrock boards!



Obvious Asrock Fanboy when ASUS, Gigabyte, and EVGA make a superior product, have better warranties, and far better customer support. This has to be one of the most bias recommendation lists I have every seen I wonder how much the original poster is getting in kickbacks from Asrock?

#702 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

View PostShammus, on 24 July 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:


Obvious Asrock Fanboy when ASUS, Gigabyte, and EVGA make a superior product, have better warranties, and far better customer support. This has to be one of the most bias recommendation lists I have every seen I wonder how much the original poster is getting in kickbacks from Asrock?

Zero kickbacks. Wish I was getting some though.
/me stares at his crap HP laptop

Anyhow. No, I find AsRock boards to be very good deals at many price points when they have the same reliability as Asus and Gigabyte since they became a company (and not a brand name for the low end Asus boards.)
As far as warranties... 3 years on a high end board = 3 years on a high end board? Sure AsRock cheaps out to 2 years on most of their lower end motherboards, but they have to make cost savings somewhere to make products of higher quality at a price point.
Customer support, I've talked with a number of customer support lines just to see what they were like to talk to when I decided to prod them for questions on advice as far as looking for a board... AsRock Talked to me. Asus talked to me. Gigabyte said we only help customers. (albeit an anecdotal case and may have been reliant on the customer service agents I personally spoke to, rather than actual company policies.)

EVGA mostly only makes upper end ($200+) Intel motherboards, and, if you didn't notice, this guide is focused to the majority who are going to be looking for advice, and hence will be buying a motherboard less than $200.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 24 July 2012 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 16 May 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:


Myth 6: Artic Silver 5 is the best thermal paste-
Once upon a time this was true, back when the two best thermal pastes there were were Arctic silver and liquid metal were the best thermal interface materials, and although both are electrically conductive, liquid metal is very expensive (often times five times more expensive than AS5) and is corrosive (which would kill your CPU cooler eventually) and as such AS5 became a standard. Now however, new ceramic based thermal pastes which are cooler, much the same cost, lack the "set time" (time it takes for tempratures to hit their minimum after application) of AS5, and best of all- they're not electrically conductive. The four current "best" (per people's opinions for the most part, they perform within 1 degrees Celsius of each other in most cases.) thermal compounds are Arctic Cooling MX-4, Tuniq TX-2, Noctura NT-H1, and GELID GC-Extreme. Most of these can be gotten for the same price as AS5 as well, which mostly sells on its name anymore. (And people unwilling to try new things.)
MX-4: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835186038
TX-2: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835154003
NT-H1: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835608008
GC-Extreme: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835426020



I am a subscriber of Maximum PC magazine and thought this was a good article in regards to this particular myth. The proof is in the pudding ahem... I mean the paste!

http://www.maximumpc...mal_pastes_face

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:25 AM

I really want to pull the trigger of a Logitech G940 and looking for reasons why that might not be the best stick for MWO before I jump.

I found this amazing write up that may help others..

Programmable HOTAS Systems Review

http://www.simhq.com...ology_094a.html

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Any one want to share their experence with the Logitech G940??

Any Time in MWO with it?

What about Force Feedback? Is it worth it for this game?

Take Care!!

Edited by Delscorcho, 25 July 2012 - 10:27 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

LOL well this is a lively board. IMHO MS Sidewinder force feedback pro was the best ever for mechin it up. I still have mine, I found a power supply at radio shack ($10.95) I found an adapter at amazon from game port to usb ($20.95). I do have concerns over the speed of info flowing from stick to mech. I have yet to get my gamming rig set up to test my beauty out. I have had this since the inception of the stick (even still have the MW3 game that came with it) the adapters I have had for about 2-3 years, I purchased them when I had an MW3-4 itch I needed to scratch. I tend to use the stick with the force feedback off, or set to very low so there is a tad bit of resistance. I most assuredly hope this will work for MWOL as I would hate to have to spend a grand on a machine AND a bunch on a joystick. MS Sidewinder rocks!!!

#706 Aescwulf

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

Well from I can gather from this guide is that no stick is perfect and no stick is good for decent aiming...

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:03 PM

I'm using the Saitek X45 for, i guess, 6 years now. Never used a joystick it in an Mechworrior game but playing flight simulations, fly helicopters and Stuff. I'm a little bit shocked of the negative points on it. I love this Stick and i hope it will work on for 10 more years. Problems with the centering, unusable rudder location... :-o For me everything of this Stick is nearly perfect.

I didn't read the thread, sorry, maybe someone else think same. Just read the first post and had to do my first post in this forum.

[edit] changed "never used it" to "never used a joystick in an MW game". I prefer to use a mouse.

Edited by lordGammA, 25 July 2012 - 01:06 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

I have the T.Flight Hotas X, and I have been using it for a while. It is a cheap good stick, my biggest problem with it is the cable that connects the throttle to the stick. It is just long enough to put on on either side of my keyboard, but just barely. I would much rather have a cable to each component instead of linking the two.

Other then that it is a good stick. I do a bit of FSX flying and flying helicpotors in ARMA.

I used to have a Sidewinder FF2 that I played MW4 with and that was a fantastic stick, but I think it got sold...

I do still have my old CH flight stick =)

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:02 PM

Thanks Thomas for the very helpful reviews and info. This info and opinions is def being taken into account for my pending stick purchase.

#710 xX_Nero_Xx

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:15 PM

poor construction my *** i still have my saitek x36 from 10 yrs ago when i use it in mw3 and mw4 still works and will still be using it now so *** you talking about no clue my 4 yr old has got a hold of it and only thing to break on it has been the missle lock cover on the top .
i have never had a issue where the rudder peddles are on the throttle stick ,it has actually made mech like actually the real driving experience
but thats been my experence .to each there own and good luck with what ever u choose to play with after all its a game .mech to be fun not another job

#711 BustedHipGaming

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:26 PM

I have an X52 (the basic one, not the pro). I like it but suck at modding/programming it. I just want someone to send me a config for it that works with MWO. :blush: who's the X52 genius that will help a brother-pilot out?

View PostThomas Hogarth, on 11 June 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:


Based on the one I handled, yeah. The buttons had a ton of slop, the trigger had a generous side to side slop, the pinky trigger just felt awful, and the whole thing just had a cheap feel to it.

Of course, this is based on my own perceptions. I compared what I was feeling to what I remember from the Cyborg 3D, and came to that conclusion.

[edit] Forgot to mention: The X52 Pro pretty much solved all those issues.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 08:30 PM

The best thermal paste can't even be bought on newegg and newegg has crap for high end cooling anyways, why is anybody link to there for cooling?

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostsilentD11, on 25 July 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

The best thermal paste can't even be bought on newegg and newegg has crap for high end cooling anyways, why is anybody link to there for cooling?

because unlike you, most of us don't spend hundreds of dollars on our cooling setup.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:01 AM

View PostsilentD11, on 25 July 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

The best thermal paste can't even be bought on newegg and newegg has crap for high end cooling anyways, why is anybody link to there for cooling?


What's the best paste?

#715 DoctorJest

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:43 AM

Brilliant thread.

I'm down to a decision between the Thrustmaster T.16000M and Saitek F.L.Y 5 simply because I can't stretch my finances any further. Well I could but then I don't get to snap up the Legendary Founder's Pack....and even if I chose to do so dropping that option doesn't really allow me to reach the x52 Pro. Possibly the x52 but the reviews give me pause.....

I'm awful at making decisions!

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:53 AM

nice info, thanks alot :) I have nothing more to add

#717 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:35 AM

Updated for July 26th, 2012

It looks like EVGA week on deals for graphics cards on Newegg for the USA.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 26 July 2012 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

Thrustmaster it is.

The ability to turn it into a lefty and have that as manoeuvre with the mouse as torso/aim gives it great flexibility if I don't find myself comfortable using it as a primary controller alongside the mouse and/or keyboard. With programmable buttons on my G500 mouse I honestly cannot see myself ever going for pedals/throttle - there simply aren't enough game controls.

#719 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:29 PM

Now including Canada.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

Biggest myth I hear is that PC gaming is "expensive", and a lot of that boils down to emphasizing the wrong components to dump money into, trying too hard to future proof, or buying expensive prebuilt machines. For example, buying a $250 CPU, a $200 mobo but only a $150 video card when they would get better performance with a $100 CPU, $100 mobo and a $200 GPU.

And the worst are prebuilt "gaming" machines that start at $1.5K and match a fairly high end i7 with a barely mid-range video card. They gimp the GPU selection to create an artificial performance range for their products so that they can sell the even more overpriced high end models.





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