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[Vulpesveritas]

Updated for USA. Holding off on continuing Canada for the moment.
Also I think part of the lack of better deals overall it is that Mondays just seem to not be a good day for Newegg price updates with the promo code schedules, and the awesome Rosewill Hive 650+case deals are gone now.

[Vulpesveritas]

Updated for the Geforce GTX 660 and the price drops on AMD cards.

[The Snipe]

I found out yesterday my labtop can't support MWO and nor should it b/c my labtop would probably catch fire if it did. SO, i still wish to play MWO but i also dont want to spend alot of money. I'm looking for a desktop build that is min requirement and is smooth at low settings for MWO. I have no idea what i'm doing when building a PC and what to look for. So i would very much appreciate a cheap setup perfectly capable of running the game at low settings.

[Vulpesveritas]

The Snipe, on 17 September 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

I found out yesterday my labtop can't support MWO and nor should it b/c my labtop would probably catch fire if it did. SO, i still wish to play MWO but i also dont want to spend alot of money. I'm looking for a desktop build that is min requirement and is smooth at low settings for MWO. I have no idea what i'm doing when building a PC and what to look for. So i would very much appreciate a cheap setup perfectly capable of running the game at low settings.

My $600 BOTW is the minimum I would recommend you going with, though I may be able to put together a $500 option if you would be interested, but for the difference in price you will get a lot more longevity and performance out of the $600 build.

[The Snipe]

After looking over every individual piece of the BOTW build you had, i must say from just gaming and geeks talking about this stuff its a pretty good deal and setup. I assume by longevity you mean i can always upgrade pieces in the future? Also, i know my labtop overheats sometimes and so it makes me wonder, playing MWO on this setup, would i need any extra cooling? I actually have a fan blowing on my labtop all the time now b/c of overheating lol.

[Vulpesveritas]

The Snipe, on 17 September 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

After looking over every individual piece of the BOTW build you had, i must say from just gaming and geeks talking about this stuff its a pretty good deal and setup. I assume by longevity you mean i can always upgrade pieces in the future? Also, i know my labtop overheats sometimes and so it makes me wonder, playing MWO on this setup, would i need any extra cooling? I actually have a fan blowing on my labtop all the time now b/c of overheating lol.

First off, partially on longevity of the parts themselves, as you're getting higher quality components this way than you get with most OEM (HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc.) PCs, and it is set up for a lot of upgradability overall on all components. The $900 build is overall the best build to go with for price / performance / upgrade options, but the $600 build will be the best 'on a strict budget' option.

Desktops generally don't have as much of an issue with cooling, however if you are concerned with heat, $20 is a decent investment into cooling for your CPU (if you're not overclocking), by going with the following; http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835999048

[Yenome]

Personally i always spend a 1:1 ration on my gpu/cpu. like this rig i spent 150ea on cpu and gpu. at the time i bought the best for the money in line with tomshardware.com that does every month best gaming cpu and gpu for the money articles. after that i spend round 80 for a mobo can go as lil as 50 if all your gonna do is game. 50-80 for memory more than 4gb last i looked was just added icing as most games wont be needing a lot, as now more games are taking advantage of the gpu memory to do the work. then the biggest 7200rpm hdd you can buy for 50. no need for ssd if your on a budget. when i built my pc 2-3 years ago it cost me round 600 and it can handles current games decently. the kicker is the mobo i picked i can either spend 100 on a second card and go crossfire and push my card another 2 years or spend 300 on a better card and run it for 5 years. i get 40fps in mwo on high but my monitor only runs at 1280x1024. better card is all i need for good frames at higher res.
so in short
Cpu 150
gpu 150
mobo 80
memory 80
hdd 50
psu 80
case reuse old one.
os 100 if dont have a copy already.
looking at round 600 now not counting the os. now most time the cpu can be had for less than 150 which frees up money to be used some where else. also most poeple forget to not be so cheap on the psu a cheap 24 dollar psu wont be running your power hungry 300 card for long, before one or both die. also with psu its more on the amps being supplied to the lines than the over all wattage. so be sure to check and make sure you got the amperage to push the card you want.

Edited by Yenome, 19 September 2012 - 09:08 PM.

[Yenome]

walmart has a samsung 3d 42in 120hz tv for 528. time for some mechage. also has anyone thought of trying a fresnal lens in a mech setup the flight sim guys i see using them all the time.

[Rawkas]

I myself buy from Ibuypower good deals and great customer service

[Vulpesveritas]

Yenome, on 19 September 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Personally i always spend a 1:1 ration on my gpu/cpu. like this rig i spent 150ea on cpu and gpu. at the time i bought the best for the money in line with tomshardware.com that does every month best gaming cpu and gpu for the money articles. after that i spend round 80 for a mobo can go as lil as 50 if all your gonna do is game. 50-80 for memory more than 4gb last i looked was just added icing as most games wont be needing a lot, as now more games are taking advantage of the gpu memory to do the work. then the biggest 7200rpm hdd you can buy for 50. no need for ssd if your on a budget. when i built my pc 2-3 years ago it cost me round 600 and it can handles current games decently. the kicker is the mobo i picked i can either spend 100 on a second card and go crossfire and push my card another 2 years or spend 300 on a better card and run it for 5 years. i get 40fps in mwo on high but my monitor only runs at 1280x1024. better card is all i need for good frames at higher res.
so in short
Cpu 150
gpu 150
mobo 80
memory 80
hdd 50
psu 80
case reuse old one.
os 100 if dont have a copy already.
looking at round 600 now not counting the os. now most time the cpu can be had for less than 150 which frees up money to be used some where else. also most poeple forget to not be so cheap on the psu a cheap 24 dollar psu wont be running your power hungry 300 card for long, before one or both die. also with psu its more on the amps being supplied to the lines than the over all wattage. so be sure to check and make sure you got the amperage to push the card you want.

1. My opinions on CPUs differ from most sites, for a variety of reasons, most prominent of which is that an AMD quad core outperforms i3s in a well-threaded title like MWO. Given that for gaming there is a substantial greater benefit for a better GPU past that in this game engine, my recommendations reflect that.

2. Newegg for most users has better deals on parts most of the time in my experience.

3. If you bothered to look at all, $35 buys you an 8GB kit of RAM.

4. HDDs are still price-inflated after the flooding. Also, SSDs will net faster day-to-day felt speeds than a faster CPU for most users.

5. Never cheap out on a PSU.


My main question is.... did you read any of the builds or look at the parts? Read a single of my guides? Somewhat wondering what this post was aimed at.

Rawkas, on 19 September 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

I myself buy from Ibuypower good deals and great customer service

But building your own will still net you a higher quality build / $$$ in 99% of cases.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 19 September 2012 - 10:42 PM.

[thelasttrueborn]

flight sim, setups wont work as well as you think.

[bikerbass77]

One thing to note, covering the comments above regarding the threading of current games and how CPU types impact on them. My current system is about 6 years old in the main and has been upgraded since only in terms of expansion cards and hard drive space. It is a Core2Duo E7200 which went from a Radeon 3870 to an Nvidia GTX460 1GB. With these upgrades I have been able to play all games on high settings up until recently. MWO is the first title that is really showing the CPU being a bottleneck. Crysis 2 runs similarly, but a bit smoother (as it had a full development cycle while MWO is still in beta) and other games like Skyrim, Resident Evil 5 and Alan Wake work just fine.

This to me is showing the way coding is headed. Up until now dual core was the mainstream performer. Now it's quad core. In a very short space of time (I am thinking months rather than years), I expect the performance of those Phenom II X6 based computers will be a major advantage. At that point I expect that the choice for most performance buyers (like gamers) will be between 8 core APU's and quad core CPU's with Hyper-threading. That is when the investment AMD has made in its processor strategy will really make sense.

My theory behind it is that AMD, not having the budget to keep up with Intel in terms of regular development, decided that the only way it could succeed was to play the long game with regards to development trends. Put simply, short term pain for long term gain.

I can't remember who said it, but I read that Intel's marketing budget is higher than AMD's entire budget.

Edited by Hans Davion, 22 September 2012 - 02:39 PM.

[bikerbass77]

Dlaw, on 30 August 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I love my AMD build, but my next build will be Intel (and cost upwards of $10,000 before any periferals, including the essentials).

I knew Intel chips cost more but not that much! I could build 8-10 I7 gaming rigs with accessories for that money.

[Habaneros]

Wonderful Greg, on 17 June 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

.. But if one buying AM3+ mobo to install 645 CPU, the person is either unaware or plain stupid.

errr i use X4 635 with AM3+ mobo
but i buy X4 second hand and buy AM3+ mobo so i have options on bulldozer

[Sir Roland MXIII]

I'm currently on a rig that dates back to '03 - '06 depending on the part in question. Will need a new rig almost certainly as you can see here, taken mostly from a dxiag:


OpSys: Windows XP Home Edition SP 3
CPU: AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3700+ MMX ~2.2GHz
RAM: 2046MB RAM
Mobo: ABIT AT8 32X 939 3200
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT


Note the CPU does not list cores because at the time, such a thing as "Cores" in a plural sense was rare and/or expensive (going off my memory alone here). Will I try to play MWO on this rig? Well, yes and no. I will install and load it but I expect the results to be more comic than anything else!


That said, I will be making a new rig ASAP, hopefully before December but, if I must, I may take advantage of Black Friday for the first time in my life. Here's the rig I plan to build, and am glad to see some support for AMD as a gaming build in this thread. Here goes:


OpSys: Win 7 Ultimate, already purchased, will use as 64 bit.
CPU: AMD FX 8150 Zambezi
Mobo: ASRock 990FX Extreme4
Preferred GPU: Sapphire Vapor X HD 7970 GHz Edition
Economy GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6950
PSU: Thermaltake TUF Power 750W, which is in my current rig and still going strong, a very well named PSU
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws Dual Channel DDR3 1600 2x 4gb
And a few other things of lesser note.


SO. Yes I am going with the Zambezi. No I will not go with another CPU, excepting under extreme duress. The Zambezi isn't as well built for future tech as it's marketed but it IS still aimed at tomorrow, rather than today. As you may have noticed no component of this current rig is less than 6 years old. That would be the GPU in fact, everything else is older. As my current rig has mostly served me well for the last several years, I would like to see if I can build another rig with the same life span, and in that regard the Zambezi makes the most sense. And let's face it, my PSU will likely handle it fine as long as I don't go overboard on the OC.


The motherboard is chosen in the same way. Almost everything else is easier to upgrade as I go. IF I can afford the 7970 somehow, I will get it. While it's no Devil 13, it doesn't have to be either.


Last comments before I let you guys take shots at this build - I will probably get whatever case suits the parts plus the Thermaltake CLP0554 Sleeve CPU cooler I plan to get. Yes I like this heatsink for it's looks as much as it's cooling power, but this is the first computer part that's EVER made me want to OC - something I swore I would never do, until I saw this cooler, that is. However it's huge, so I plan to get a case I like, currently the Cougar Orange Challenger, and then have a custom made side panel to accomodate, fit, and enhance the cooling power of the CPU heatsink (I will post pics when it is finished as the final effect should be pretty wickedly cool looking, pun intended).


I'll sign off before this post gets longer. Thanks in advance for thoughts / tips etc!
~Sir Roland

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 26 September 2012 - 02:36 AM.

[Catamount]

Roland, everything looks good there. As an in-between for your GPUs, you could get a 7950 if the 7970 (even one that isn't $600... ) proves to be out of your reach.

[Vulpesveritas]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 26 September 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:

I'm currently on a rig that dates back to '03 - '06 depending on the part in question. Will need a new rig almost certainly as you can see here, taken mostly from a dxiag:


OpSys: Windows XP Home Edition SP 3
CPU: AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor 3700+ MMX ~2.2GHz
RAM: 2046MB RAM
Mobo: ABIT AT8 32X 939 3200
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT


Note the CPU does not list cores because at the time, such a thing as "Cores" in a plural sense was rare and/or expensive (going off my memory alone here). Will I try to play MWO on this rig? Well, yes and no. I will install and load it but I expect the results to be more comic than anything else!


That said, I will be making a new rig ASAP, hopefully before December but, if I must, I may take advantage of Black Friday for the first time in my life. Here's the rig I plan to build, and am glad to see some support for AMD as a gaming build in this thread. Here goes:


OpSys: Win 7 Ultimate, already purchased, will use as 64 bit.
CPU: AMD FX 8150 Zambezi
Mobo: ASRock 990FX Extreme4
Preferred GPU: Sapphire Vapor X HD 7970 GHz Edition
Economy GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6950
PSU: Thermaltake TUF Power 750W, which is in my current rig and still going strong, a very well named PSU
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws Dual Channel DDR3 1600 2x 4gb
And a few other things of lesser note.


SO. Yes I am going with the Zambezi. No I will not go with another CPU, excepting under extreme duress. The Zambezi isn't as well built for future tech as it's marketed but it IS still aimed at tomorrow, rather than today. As you may have noticed no component of this current rig is less than 6 years old. That would be the GPU in fact, everything else is older. As my current rig has mostly served me well for the last several years, I would like to see if I can build another rig with the same life span, and in that regard the Zambezi makes the most sense. And let's face it, my PSU will likely handle it fine as long as I don't go overboard on the OC.


The motherboard is chosen in the same way. Almost everything else is easier to upgrade as I go. IF I can afford the 7970 somehow, I will get it. While it's no Devil 13, it doesn't have to be either.


Last comments before I let you guys take shots at this build - I will probably get whatever case suits the parts plus the Thermaltake CLP0554 Sleeve CPU cooler I plan to get. Yes I like this heatsink for it's looks as much as it's cooling power, but this is the first computer part that's EVER made me want to OC - something I swore I would never do, until I saw this cooler, that is. However it's huge, so I plan to get a case I like, currently the Cougar Orange Challenger, and then have a custom made side panel to accomodate, fit, and enhance the cooling power of the CPU heatsink (I will post pics when it is finished as the final effect should be pretty wickedly cool looking, pun intended).


I'll sign off before this post gets longer. Thanks in advance for thoughts / tips etc!
~Sir Roland

No real objections, though I would make suggestions of the following:

PSU: If you have the budget, you may consider upgrading to a better PSU with your new PC, with an 80+ gold or platinum rating, with Seasonic or Superflower internals.
For example as ideas of 750w units;
Corsair (Seasonic) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139016
Seasonic http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151087
Rosewill Capstone (Superflower) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182264
Kingwin (Superflower) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817121088



Heatsink: while the thermaltake looks cool, there are better CPU coolers in the price range. Among which are the following:
NZXT HAVIK 120
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II
GELID Solutions CC-GX7
NZXT HAVIK-140

(the coolermaster TPC 812 also does, however it does not fit on the AsRock 990FX Extreme4)

Another thing to consider on the heatsink is whether the fan is replaceable, and the bearing used. Sleeve bearings are good while they last in airflow : Noise ratio, however they have a short lifetime compared to Ball, Fluid Dynamic, and some of the magnetic bearings (such as the nanoflux in the GeLid)
While this would normally be acceptable on the Thermaltake, it's thermal performance is comparitively low compared to heatsinks, costing $10-15 less than it, and is not even on par with the $35 Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, which is nearly half it's cost, and not having a replaceable fan due to it's construction, unlike the coolermaster.

Also, given that that cougar case supports a 200mm fan, I wouldn't be worried about most CPU coolers fitting.

Also, for GPU, I would recommend getting whatever is best for your pricepoint. Given the EoL of the 6950, and the cost of the slightly faster and more power efficient 7850, I would recommend taking a look at my GPU guide for an idea, although at $300 and $400 there are some sales on Radeon HD 79xx series GPUs which may be better deals.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 26 September 2012 - 10:06 AM.

[Volume]

This is a great thread that is getting dragged down by irrelevant brand loyalty battles.

Bottom line is that for price/performance for gaming, you want ONE OF THE FOLLOWING:

• Phenom II 955/965 BE
  
• i5 3570k
  
• FX-4170
  
• i3 3220

I'm running the Athlon IIx4 640 Propus chip right now, and MWO works fine, pretty much everything works fine, because they're more dependent on GPU anyway.

Edited by Volume, 26 September 2012 - 12:10 PM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Vulpesveritas, on 26 September 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

No real objections, though I would make suggestions of the following:

PSU: If you have the budget, you may consider upgrading to a better PSU with your new PC, with an 80+ gold or platinum rating, with Seasonic or Superflower internals.
For example as ideas of 750w units;
Corsair (Seasonic) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139016
Seasonic http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151087
Rosewill Capstone (Superflower) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182264
Kingwin (Superflower) http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817121088

I'll be reusing the current PSU for several reasons:
1 - I can save money towards better parts on my new rig by not replacing a PSU that still works
2 - It's powerful enough for the planned build with some room to spare
3 - if in the future it stops working or I want to upgrade it I can do so then with minimal fuss, and with no impact to the "mark one" rig's performance

All of which saves me money on my new rig that I can put to other, more important parts. However I will keep the ones you mentioned here in mind for a later date.

Vulpesveritas, on 26 September 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

Heatsink: while the thermaltake looks cool, there are better CPU coolers in the price range. Among which are the following:
NZXT HAVIK 120
XIGMATEK Dark Knight II
GELID Solutions CC-GX7
NZXT HAVIK-140

(the coolermaster TPC 812 also does, however it does not fit on the AsRock 990FX Extreme4)

Another thing to consider on the heatsink is whether the fan is replaceable, and the bearing used. Sleeve bearings are good while they last in airflow : Noise ratio, however they have a short lifetime compared to Ball, Fluid Dynamic, and some of the magnetic bearings (such as the nanoflux in the GeLid)

Excellent points, will keep in mind.

Vulpesveritas, on 26 September 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

While this would normally be acceptable on the Thermaltake, it's thermal performance is comparitively low compared to heatsinks, costing $10-15 less than it, and is not even on par with the $35 Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, which is nearly half it's cost, and not having a replaceable fan due to it's construction, unlike the coolermaster.

I'm choosing it for aesthetic reasons as well. It gave me an idea for a personalized computer case look that I look forward to having for years to come, that also helps increase the sleeve's ability to cool. Basic plan here is to have a new side panel made with a clear acrylic window that also has a bubble dome that wraps around the sleeve, thereby isolating the thermal exhaust from the rest of the computer and theoretically increasing the heatsink's cooling power, as well as adding to it's aesthetic appeal with orange LEDs backlighting it from underneath the bubble. The look would be completed with a fan grill custom made, probably featuring the Davion Sun Sword symbol.

I would also add a velcro patch to the fan controller so I could 'hang' it on the side panel exterior while still allowing me to quickly and easily remove it when I need to work on the interior.

Would this likely increase better third party heatsinks as well? Absolutely, but if all goes to plan, I'll have to look at this rig for the next several years, and I don't want to stop being proud of it! <grin>

Vulpesveritas, on 26 September 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

Also, given that that cougar case supports a 200mm fan, I wouldn't be worried about most CPU coolers fitting.

Good to know, thank you.

Vulpesveritas, on 26 September 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

Also, for GPU, I would recommend getting whatever is best for your pricepoint. Given the EoL of the 6950, and the cost of the slightly faster and more power efficient 7850, I would recommend taking a look at my GPU guide for an idea, although at $300 and $400 there are some sales on Radeon HD 79xx series GPUs which may be better deals.

I did look at the GPU page and I will be taking the points there into account. I wanted to thank you for those guides too as I appreciate all the work you've done so far to help others out, I admire any fellow techy who's willing and able to do so. For example I realized the GHz Edition I'd prefer would be another kick to my sitmuscle to get back into my programming, since you mentioned it's GPGPU would be most helpful for usage in that area as well as for gaming. While I doubt I'll be able to afford it for the "mark one" build, now more than ever I plan to have that in a later "mark" build if it doesn't make it itno the first.

On the CPU page I noticed that the Crysis 2 FramesPS with the 8120 was higher than the 8150. I've noticed that FPS comparisons with AMD depend a great deal on the other parts used, as this seems to have had a lot to do with the Bulldozer / Zambezi's lackluster Day One. The press kit was, apparently, NOT an optimum build and hamstrung it's performance, since reviews that did NOT use that press kit did far, far better. That said, I will ask, in the $200+ range, what AMD chip do you think is best, in AM3+, that would be good for the programs of tomorrow?

Thanks again,
~Sir Roland

[Vulpesveritas]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 26 September 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

I'll be reusing the current PSU for several reasons:
1 - I can save money towards better parts on my new rig by not replacing a PSU that still works
2 - It's powerful enough for the planned build with some room to spare
3 - if in the future it stops working or I want to upgrade it I can do so then with minimal fuss, and with no impact to the "mark one" rig's performance

All of which saves me money on my new rig that I can put to other, more important parts. However I will keep the ones you mentioned here in mind for a later date.



Excellent points, will keep in mind.



I'm choosing it for aesthetic reasons as well. It gave me an idea for a personalized computer case look that I look forward to having for years to come, that also helps increase the sleeve's ability to cool. Basic plan here is to have a new side panel made with a clear acrylic window that also has a bubble dome that wraps around the sleeve, thereby isolating the thermal exhaust from the rest of the computer and theoretically increasing the heatsink's cooling power, as well as adding to it's aesthetic appeal with orange LEDs backlighting it from underneath the bubble. The look would be completed with a fan grill custom made, probably featuring the Davion Sun Sword symbol.

I would also add a velcro patch to the fan controller so I could 'hang' it on the side panel exterior while still allowing me to quickly and easily remove it when I need to work on the interior.

Would this likely increase better third party heatsinks as well? Absolutely, but if all goes to plan, I'll have to look at this rig for the next several years, and I don't want to stop being proud of it! <grin>



Good to know, thank you.



I did look at the GPU page and I will be taking the points there into account. I wanted to thank you for those guides too as I appreciate all the work you've done so far to help others out, I admire any fellow techy who's willing and able to do so. For example I realized the GHz Edition I'd prefer would be another kick to my sitmuscle to get back into my programming, since you mentioned it's GPGPU would be most helpful for usage in that area as well as for gaming. While I doubt I'll be able to afford it for the "mark one" build, now more than ever I plan to have that in a later "mark" build if it doesn't make it itno the first.

On the CPU page I noticed that the Crysis 2 FramesPS with the 8120 was higher than the 8150. I've noticed that FPS comparisons with AMD depend a great deal on the other parts used, as this seems to have had a lot to do with the Bulldozer / Zambezi's lackluster Day One. The press kit was, apparently, NOT an optimum build and hamstrung it's performance, since reviews that did NOT use that press kit did far, far better. That said, I will ask, in the $200+ range, what AMD chip do you think is best, in AM3+, that would be good for the programs of tomorrow?

Thanks again,
~Sir Roland

Well, something I would suggest CPU wise, is if you're able to wait another month on the CPU, do so, as Piledriver core Vishera FX-8350s are on their way and are rumored for next month currently, which by the current benchmarks of the trinity piledriver cores, should be 10-20% faster clock-for-clock, and you're getting ~10% higher stock clock speeds at the same power consumption vs Zambezi. As such that would be my primary recommendation. For lasting without changing out CPUs, that will be your best bet. Otherwise, an FX-8120 overclocked will be your best price / performance bit so long as you're not trying extreme OCs. (which you won't be on that cooler)

Motherboard wise, while the AsRock Extreme4 is good by all accounts, you may want to consider the Asrock Fatal1ty professional and Asus Sabertooth 990fx if you have the budget. As you'll get a few more features on the Fatal1ty and a better warranty on the sabertooth. They also both have lower heatsinks on them, which won't hinder aftermarket heatsinks as much should you choose to go with a larger one such as a Coolermaster TPC 812 or Phanteks PH-TC14PE. (the Phanteks also matches the orange theme if you're going for it, as well as among the top air coolers on the market)

Also a note on cooling, you may want to get some decent TIM, I generally recommend GELID GC-Extreme.


And one last thought, may I recommend this set of G-Skill Ares? They're at the same rated speed as what you're looking at, match the orange theme, and are low profile unlike the ripjaws.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 26 September 2012 - 02:46 PM.