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[Catamount]

Undrtke316, on 31 October 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Hey guys,

I've been playing for a couple weeks on what I thought was an adequate machine but since the beta went to open it's really been chugging along. I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction of how best to optimize the settings for my system.

Here are my specs:

Cpu: AMD Athlon X2 4450e (Dual Core, ~2.3GHz)
Ram: 4.00 GB
GPU: XFX HD Radeon 6770 Core Edition (1GB)
OS: Windows Vista x32

I have tried running it on lower res, disabling the other monitor, low textures etc, turn off V-sync, basically dumb it down as far as I can, and I will run somewhere between 10-20 fps in a match (according to FRAPS and the in-game monitor). If I turn everything back to medium or high, it's about the same. So either low isn't really "low", or I'm doing something else wrong and I'm not sure what. Is this CPU just way too outdated for this game? Am I missing the sweet spot of low end graphics but still high enough for the GPU to handle most of the data instead of the CPU? Any thoughts would help, I want to get back to playing this but the chugging really is annoying. Thanks for any help.

The problem is that your CPU is bottlenecking the game badly, and there's really not too much you can do about it for now. Turning settings up and down will affect the GPU more than CPU, and since the CPU is chunking regardless of the setting, it's not of much use changing it.

The only thing you could do for now would be to overclock the CPU if your power supply, cooler and case offer the headroom.

The other thing you can do is just hang in there. You won't have trouble forever, because once the DX11 client is out, the CPU utilization should drop vastly. That's just how Cryengine 3 is; in DX9 it's a CPU hog, while in DX11 it almost doesn't care about the CPU.

[Cubicle Warrior]

Vulpesveritas, on 01 November 2012 - 12:54 AM, said:

Likely 10-15fps. Though I would recommend waiting for an update, coming within the next 24 hours if all goes well.

May I recommend comparable intel and AMD builds in the same or about the same price range? I noticed a lot of AMD builds in the archive.

Also, newegg has some deals for all Novemeber that may be of some use. Is there any love anymore for the i2500K?

http://promotions.ne...E0A-_-CORE#CORE

Thanks!

[Undrtke316]

Catamount, on 01 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

The problem is that your CPU is bottlenecking the game badly, and there's really not too much you can do about it for now. Turning settings up and down will affect the GPU more than CPU, and since the CPU is chunking regardless of the setting, it's not of much use changing it.

The only thing you could do for now would be to overclock the CPU if your power supply, cooler and case offer the headroom.

The other thing you can do is just hang in there. You won't have trouble forever, because once the DX11 client is out, the CPU utilization should drop vastly. That's just how Cryengine 3 is; in DX9 it's a CPU hog, while in DX11 it almost doesn't care about the CPU.

Thanks. I was hoping that eventually it would be fixed so it sounds like I'll just have to rough it out for the time being. The processor is locked and I'm on a stock Dell motherboard and only running a 430W PSU so I don't think I can safely overclock the processor even if there are options to in the BIOS. This comp is just a stand in until I acquire all the parts necessary to build my own and I'm not going to throw cash at it to upgrade instead of buying new parts for a new machine. It is socket AM2 so there is room to upgrade the CPU but the price to find one isn't really worth it IMO, especially since a new CPU/MOBO would only be another 100 bucks or so. I'll just have to stick it out until after new years on this one.

[Burned_Follower]

Ok, I'm finally purchasing this CPU and this Motherboard tomorrow. But while browsing around ASUS' website, then checking price on newegg, i'm stuck between two different motherboards to get:

Option One

Option Two

Both seem to be very good motherboards and both are WELL within budget for me tomorrow.

When it comes to price, i only see a 40.00 difference.

Since i'm strictly building a PC for MWO, max DX11 and 3D settings, 1080p, etc, is there a reason i really "need" to pay the extra 40.00 for that Crosshair V Formula-Z?

If i don't find a good enough reason by tomorrow to pay extra for "option two" i'll be going for the Sabertooth. ; )

[GL Chozo4]

Good call on the choices! I was a bit afraid I would see an MSI Board in the mix due to their very high VRM failure rate with their military-grade lineup. Using an ASRock 960GM U3S3 here and it seems to handle quite well under overclocking stress (271mhz-BUS right now) and a good bang for the buck...

$55
ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX

Brand: ASRock
Form Factor: Micro ATX Form Factor: [9.6-in x 7.8-in, 24.4 cm x 19.8 cm]
RAM slots: 2
PCI-e X16 slots: 1
USB type: 3.0
Max RAM speed: DDR3 1866(OC)/1600(OC)/1333/1066/800
UEFI: NO [8Mb AMI Legal BIOS]
Extras: Solid Capacitor for CPU Power / CPU, VCCM, NB Voltage Multi-adjustment

Edited by GL Chozo4, 01 November 2012 - 06:10 PM.

[GL Chozo4]

XxDRxDEATHxX, on 01 November 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

Since i'm strictly building a PC for MWO, max DX11 and 3D settings, 1080p, etc, is there a reason i really "need" to pay the extra 40.00 for that Crosshair V Formula-Z?

Personally, go for the sabretooth as they are built to last through just about anything due to higher quality compoenents while keeping its' components far cooler reducing heat/stress and increasing voltage/part reliability. The Formula is mostly marketed for the enthusiast gaming/overclocking community and as such has extended overclocking options. I've installed a Sabretooth in a clients machine a while back and honestly have to say the BIOS is still quite robust for overclocking and performing well above standards.

Edited by GL Chozo4, 01 November 2012 - 06:18 PM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

That's... odd. While better built and easier to read, the Gigabyte FM2 board seems a little less powerful / less potential than the AsRock Extreme 6 FM2 board which is ~30 dollars less.

Am I seeing that correctly or is there something I've missed?

PS I would love a swift answer since I plan to buy tomorrow an A10 5800K and a dual channel G Skill Ripjaws X (2x4gb) kit, so a tip towards a final decision on the motherboard will be nice!

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 01 November 2012 - 06:15 PM.

[GL Chozo4]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 01 November 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

That's... odd. While better built and easier to read, the Gigabyte FM2 board seems a little less powerful / less potential than the AsRock Extreme 6 FM2 board which is ~30 dollars less.

Am I seeing that correctly or is there something I've missed?

PS I would love a swift answer since I plan to buy tomorrow an A10 5800K and a dual channel G Skill Ripjaws X (2x4gb) kit, so a tip towards a final decision on the motherboard will be nice!

I would have to say I can agree with the ASRock board as it seems far more robust. Keep in mind that price doesn't always indicate quality which seems what you're confused over. The ASRock seems to have more capabilities really from a standpoint on back-to-back comparisons of specifications (and equal ratings) .With 8+2 phases and gold-caps which are generally higher reliability than standard 'solid' caps used which are seen on the Gigabyte for instance I would have confidence in the longevity of the board.

[Vulpesveritas]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 01 November 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

That's... odd. While better built and easier to read, the Gigabyte FM2 board seems a little less powerful / less potential than the AsRock Extreme 6 FM2 board which is ~30 dollars less.

Am I seeing that correctly or is there something I've missed?

PS I would love a swift answer since I plan to buy tomorrow an A10 5800K and a dual channel G Skill Ripjaws X (2x4gb) kit, so a tip towards a final decision on the motherboard will be nice!

GL Chozo4, on 01 November 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

I would have to say I can agree with the ASRock board as it seems far more robust. Keep in mind that price doesn't always indicate quality which seems what you're confused over. The ASRock seems to have more capabilities really from a standpoint on back-to-back comparisons of specifications (and equal ratings) .With 8+2 phases and gold-caps which are generally higher reliability than standard 'solid' caps used which are seen on the Gigabyte for instance I would have confidence in the longevity of the board.

The Extreme6 is a better deal motherboard, however I have yet to update this guide, and when last updated the Extreme6 was not yet available.

[Vulpesveritas]

Cubicle Warrior, on 01 November 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

May I recommend comparable intel and AMD builds in the same or about the same price range? I noticed a lot of AMD builds in the archive.

Also, newegg has some deals for all Novemeber that may be of some use. Is there any love anymore for the i2500K?

http://promotions.ne...E0A-_-CORE#CORE

Thanks!

As it stands, I would be more apt to recommend an AMD FX-8350, which offers similar single-thread performance to a 2500k at stock and offers far superior multi-threading capability. If you overclock, an FX-8320, as I would prefer to recommend a more balanced system with much stronger support for future applications for longevity.

[Aznpersuasion89]

my gigabyte has 8+2 phase power

[Vulpesveritas]

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[Alalcomenous]

This system is lying to me. It says I can't run MWO when I am running it. My computer's processor is an AMD Radeon HD 6520G Quad Core and I am running this game just fine.

[TheAquired]

I would recommend the Corsair Carbide 500R over the 400R. for both gaming and silence. I have this case, and quite honestly, if it weren't for the lights, I wouldn't know it is on. Also, the 200mm fan that comes on the side reduces the noise a lot, and the white color is awesome.

[Vulpesveritas]

TheAquired, on 02 November 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

I would recommend the Corsair Carbide 500R over the 400R. for both gaming and silence. I have this case, and quite honestly, if it weren't for the lights, I wouldn't know it is on. Also, the 200mm fan that comes on the side reduces the noise a lot, and the white color is awesome.

THe 500R is above the $100 price point the 400R is at in recommendation.

[TheAquired]

Vulpesveritas, on 02 November 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

THe 500R is above the $100 price point the 400R is at in recommendation.

Ah I see, well, I suggest recommending it as well. The little bit extra is very much worth it.

[Conraire]

Just out of Curiosity, what are people running? I know My system is still a phenom II x6 1090t, 4gb DDR3 1600, and a Sapphire Dual x 7850 2GB card. And the game looks awesome and plays silkey smooth at my monitors default 1080p resolution.