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[Heeden]

Strip out the 4 LLas and any other bits of kit until you can fit 4 PPCs, or if you really want to annoy the spreadsheet-warriors take ERPPCs.

[General Taskeen]

HC Harlequin, on 02 January 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

usually when one pilot gets a score like that and the rest of the drop gets really low scores like the SS then it's because the rest of the team sucks.

No, it means one team got a random Raid Boss and the enemy was bewildered.

[SpiralRazor]

Noodlesoup, on 02 January 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

300 XL Engine, 4xLLs, 0.93 heat efficiency, how can i improve my stalker?

LOL>>....so what bro? look at the rest of the people you played with..mostly terribads. Its like some of the responses youve received on this post.....people clueless enough that they failed to get the entire point.

Keep on patting yourself on the back and thinking a 36 points alpha at 450 is "good"..

Cya cored on the field mate!

Edited by SpiralRazor, 02 January 2013 - 11:58 PM.

[Noodlesoup]

you guys completely missed the point. there's no "right" or "wrong" build to a mech if a pilot can use it effectively. and no, i'm not trying to compare e-penises with Vassago much to his disappointment i'm sure.

and yes, my build has more than "just" 4xLL.

my other point was that people keep blaming their teams for their poor performance in MWO. if you are continually doing poorly in matches, it's not your team, it's you.

improve your aim, improve your tactics, improve your understanding of the battlefield. oh, and don't look in vassago's cockpit, i hear it's got a sauna with lots of naked men in there comparing e-penises (just for vassago, one more screen cap of me losing horribly so he can feel better about himself and his centurion)

personally, i think i do just fine with my xl. most of the time i'm one of the last people standing, and the tradeoff in survivability is offset by the increased speed and guns i can lug around. overall it makes the game more fun for me than the ability to be a zombie-mech.

SpiralRazor, on 02 January 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

LOL>>....so what bro? look at the rest of the people you played with..mostly terribads. Its like some of the responses youve received on this post.....people clueless enough that they failed to get the entire point.

Keep on patting yourself on the back and thinking a 36 points alpha at 450 is "good"..

Cya cored on the field mate!

fyi, my alpha is 102 pts, see you around ;-)

[Johnny Reb]

Heh, they also think the Awesome is ****. Idiots make comments before they actually play the thing!

edit: actually play it!

Edited by Johnny Reb, 03 January 2013 - 12:02 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

Noodlesoup, on 03 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

you guys completely missed the point. there's no "right" or "wrong" build to a mech if a pilot can use it effectively. and no, i'm not trying to compare e-penises with Vassago much to his disappointment i'm sure.

and yes, my build has more than "just" 4xLL.

my other point was that people keep blaming their teams for their poor performance in MWO. if you are continually doing poorly in matches, it's not your team, it's you.

improve your aim, improve your tactics, improve your understanding of the battlefield. oh, and don't look in vassago's cockpit, i hear it's got a sauna with lots of naked men in there comparing e-penises (just for vassago, one more screen cap of me losing horribly so he can feel better about himself and his centurion)

personally, i think i do just fine with my xl. most of the time i'm one of the last people standing, and the tradeoff in survivability is offset by the increased speed and guns i can lug around. overall it makes the game more fun for me than the ability to be a zombie-mech.





fyi, my alpha is 102 pts, see you around ;-)

Yeah, there's a right and a wrong way to build a mech.
For instance, you don't put an XL engine in the stalker, because it loses the sides well before the center.



You should do 8 manz in your glorious XL stalkers, mediums, and dragons.

Edited by Vassago Rain, 03 January 2013 - 12:03 AM.

[One Medic Army]

Ah, Sounds like Larges+SRM or Larges+LRM.
Which makes more sense.

Heck, of my 3 stalkers only 1 runs a standard engine, since the other 2 are long-range builds.

BTW, my 3F brawler is 4x LargeLasers, 2x ASRM4s, and 83/85 tons used (Standard 300).

[Noodlesoup]

Vassago Rain, on 03 January 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Yeah, there's a right and a wrong way to build a mech.
For instance, you don't put an XL engine in the stalker, because it loses the sides well before the center.



You should do 8 manz in your glorious XL stalkers, mediums, and dragons.

if only i could find 7 other people worthy of my craptitude.

[KinLuu]

Noodlesoup, on 03 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

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personally, i think i do just fine with my xl. most of the time i'm one of the last people standing, and the tradeoff in survivability is offset by the increased speed and guns i can lug around. overall it makes the game more fun for me than the ability to be a zombie-mech.
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If you want to do XL stuff, I would think the AS-7 RS would be the better choice. IMHO the small CT of the Stalker is one of its best qualities - and it goes to waste with a XL.

But tbh. people are so bad most of the time, one can have good success with fun setups. No need to minmax everything.

[Leetskeet]

Noodlesoup, on 03 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

you guys completely missed the point. there's no "right" or "wrong" build to a mech if a pilot can use it effectively

No.

There is a right and wrong way to build a mech. Your build is inferior.

This is just like the trash double LBX-10 Atlases that people used to make. They thought that they were amazing, when it reality it could not have possibly been any worse without swapping to machineguns and flamers.

[MagicHamsta]

Noodlesoup, on 02 January 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

you guys missed the screenshot didn't you?

Me suppose you can start by going up against decent players.
Try pulling the same off against a premade while you be a solo pub player with 2 trial mechs on your side.



Or when you has two players who do absolutely nothing on your side:

Edited by MagicHamsta, 03 January 2013 - 12:14 AM.

[Leetskeet]

Johnny Reb, on 03 January 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

Heh, they also think the Awesome is ****. Idiots make comments before they actually play the thing!

edit: actually play it!

The non-9M Awesomes suck.

Edited by Leetskeet, 03 January 2013 - 12:14 AM.

[Noodlesoup]

MagicHamsta, on 03 January 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Me suppose you can start by going up against decent players.
Try pulling the same off against a premade while you be a solo pub player with 2 trial mechs on your side.



Or when you has two players who do absolutely nothing on your side:

lol all of mine are running as a solo pug with plenty of useless people on my team. but good for you too! raid-boss high-five!

Leetskeet, on 03 January 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

No.

There is a right and wrong way to build a mech. Your build is inferior.

This is just like the trash double LBX-10 Atlases that people used to make. They thought that they were amazing, when it reality it could not have possibly been any worse without swapping to machineguns and flamers.

the qualifier is "if the pilot can use it effectively"

if the pilot cannot use dual lbx10s effectively then yes, it's a pretty lousy build. but i wanted to see how much of the same "advice" would get flung at my thread. "XL SUCKS! 4xLL is too many! you're doing it wrong!"

i <3 the MWO forums!

[One Medic Army]

He's got a 4pack of LRM6s and a pair of small lasers as well by my guess, judging by his alpha strike dmg of 102.
Could be a single medium pulse laser as well I suppose.

[Johnny Reb]

Leetskeet, on 03 January 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

The non-9M Awesomes suck.

Yes and No the the laser boat Awesome is just fine!

The 9M is is so deadly and fun! (85kh )

Edited by Johnny Reb, 03 January 2013 - 12:25 AM.

[MagicHamsta]

Noodlesoup, on 03 January 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

lol all of mine are running as a solo pug with plenty of useless people on my team. but good for you too! raid-boss high-five!

the qualifier is "if the pilot can use it effectively"

if the pilot cannot use dual lbx10s effectively then yes, it's a pretty lousy build. but i wanted to see how much of the same "advice" would get flung at my thread. "XL SUCKS! 4xLL is too many! you're doing it wrong!"

i <3 the MWO forums!

Aye, the NoodleSoup has a point.
If a pilot can effectively use a wonky build....and CONSISTENTLY WIN against others with the "proper" builds.
Then obviously it be working for him/her & the rest of you guys be wrong and/or terrible.

[SpiralRazor]

Noodlesoup, on 03 January 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

you guys completely missed the point. there's no "right" or "wrong" build to a mech if a pilot can use it effectively. and no, i'm not trying to compare e-penises with Vassago much to his disappointment i'm sure.

and yes, my build has more than "just" 4xLL.

my other point was that people keep blaming their teams for their poor performance in MWO. if you are continually doing poorly in matches, it's not your team, it's you.

improve your aim, improve your tactics, improve your understanding of the battlefield. oh, and don't look in vassago's cockpit, i hear it's got a sauna with lots of naked men in there comparing e-penises (just for vassago, one more screen cap of me losing horribly so he can feel better about himself and his centurion)

personally, i think i do just fine with my xl. most of the time i'm one of the last people standing, and the tradeoff in survivability is offset by the increased speed and guns i can lug around. overall it makes the game more fun for me than the ability to be a zombie-mech.





fyi, my alpha is 102 pts, see you around ;-)

Yeah, but you certainly didnt say so.... your post made it sound like ALL your using was 4 LLs.

If you have 4+ SRM6s to back that up well.............why post? Tons and tons of stalker builds use mutiple large lasers.

My 3F even occasionally uses 6 Large lasers and 20 double sinks, 1.04. I use it to take peoples cockpits out. Totally viable, usually mid damage in the charts, but its all delivered to critical areas.

Edited by SpiralRazor, 03 January 2013 - 12:36 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

MagicHamsta, on 03 January 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

Aye, the NoodleSoup has a point.
If a pilot can effectively use a wonky build....and CONSISTENTLY WIN against others with the "proper" builds.
Then obviously it be working for him/her & the rest of you guys be wrong and/or terrible.

No, it means the player in question is better than the competiion, which isn't tied at all to your build.
He should take the same build to the 8 manz.

[Damocles 1]

so in other words you jacked it up with lrms and some lasers, yeah mine is the same, what of it fool?

[RainbowToh]

Well he is just showing off his 1k damage scores. He doesnt really care what anyone says about his build.