Void Angel, on 06 December 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:
Untrue. You're risking no physical danger, but it's not the same as "nothing." If it's legitimate to call a 'mech's death a "kill," then it's all right to say that, within the suspension of disbelief required for engagement in all fictional settings, the game trains cowardice. But let's not quibble over definitions - instead, let us talk about the points you made in disagreeing with the guide.
Oh wait - there aren't any. There's some insulting language, where you imply that it's morally improper of me to use a word you disliked, based on assumptions about the group of people to whom I belong. Then there's vague hand-waving and a fallacious appeal to authority - followed by a weak attempt to deny the implication of your statements, and some more appeals to common wisdom. And you apparently hope I don't wonder why you're trolling with an alt account - assuming you actually are more veteran than your current account indicates.
So you have presented arrogance, textbook-bad logic, and insults - but no actual treatment of the material. In fact, you have yet to even understand the material, or apparently read my previous rebuttals. Please remember that your flaming, while mildly irritating, is obvious to others for what it is - and is bumping my thread. Thank you for that, and let us know if you decide to try to understand.
You can deflect all you want. You are calling people playing a game cowards. A video game. It is so incredibly ridiculous and absurd to do so that it patently invalidates and discredits anything you might have to say (to me at least). I find it incredible that you claim military service and still insist that it is correct or appropriate to refer to anyone playing a game as a coward.
Your tactic and explainations are completely irrelevent when your thesis behind it is so ignorant.
You say I am flaming. That is not my intent. I am truly sickened by you and others calling people cowards over a game. I find it deeply offensive for many reasons including the ones I have already mentioned.
Insults have been tossed around both ways. I have my opinion and you call people playing a video games cowards. Some will certainly side with you as the immersion can be quite fierce in this game and community. Maybe some really fresh people might find some of your 'guide' helpful. Your ego is frightfully overblown however if you believe you have the breadth of reach to have a deep and meaningful impact on the populace of the community as a teacher.
I could go into your guide and nit pick at points and come up with counters and so on and so forth. However I am cetainly willing to admit that, this would not be my expertise (sort of throwing you a bone here) and I would not necessarily be right or able to prove you wrong. I do not even lay claim to be a better pilot than you are. Quite likely worse. It's a game, so not really a big deal cause being a good husband, son, father, employee, friend, etc are way higher on my list.
What you can glean from this however is that I am very passionate about life and a huge fan of the game with lots invested in it. You can also tell that I am beyond irritated by your usage of the word cowardice to the point of being completely and utterly put off by you. Certainly we can't like everyone and not everyone will be friends. At one point I had hoped that somehow you would come around to some small sort of reckoning and realise that the use of the word coward was not appropriate in this case. Perhaps I my anger came across so strong you were unable to step back and reasonably assess the use of the word coward. Maybe you honestly believe it is absolutely appropriate to call people cowards...playing a video game. I certainly do not believe that you could go into a lecture hall full of veterens and get them on board with how there are brave MWO players and there are camping/hiding cowards playing the game....
Edited by Evil Goof, 06 December 2016 - 09:55 PM.
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