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[Thorn Hallis]

If it happens, it happens. *shrugs*

[Butane9000]

A good post but you're forgetting the Clans return to Clan space to select a new Ilkhan after the current one dies in the phase 1 invasion.

With this knowledge I expect them to announce Battlemech #20 (most likely an assault Banshee/Zeus) along with the ISN feed blowing up with all sorts of information on the phase 1 clan invasion. This will continue on as ISN news feeds announce newly encountered Clan mechs aside from the initial bunch culminating in having all 16 initial clan mechs announced through the news feed by October. When the Clans come back for the phase 2 invasion we should see community Warfare added in full (if it hadn't been already added) as well as having all 20 IS mechs in game.

I believe the most likely system is to have 8v5 matches of 8 IS players vs 5 AI controlled Clan mechs. This system will come with an adjusted salvage system where you have a % chance to get clan tech and mech chassis that at the end have to be paid with C-bills to unlock. Everyone on a team would have the option, just a matter of having the cash. The chance for clan tech weapons would be high compared to the infinitesimal chance at a clan chassis.

This is to keep any clan mech population low enough in order to come out with the clan "founders" package to further crowd source the game. Anyone with half a brain can realize the monetary possibility of such a program and it's obvious we'll see one. Once the Clan founders is finished (It won't run as long as the regular founders did) Clans will be playable in full by players. This will set up the community warfare to be along the lines of the galaxy map for the time period.

Lastly content we should have before then:

- At least 1 new game mode (preferably 2-3, not in additional to the 8v5 mode mentioned above)
- 12 v 12 should be implemented by then
- 2-3 new maps and more alternate variations of existing maps (Alpine Peaks, Caustic, Desert)
- Highlander, Flea, Blackjack, Orion and BM#20 should all be released making 20 mechs to play with 55-100 variants total.
- More hero mechs (obviously)
- One hopes the initial set up for community warfare happens in that timeframe
- Possibly more weapons/tech added
- Major bug fixes and reintroduction of previous mechanics (knockdown)

That's the way I see it. I don't see MW:O dying pretty soon. And a Company has every right to reallocate capital and resources where it sees best to put it. Now that doesn't mean it's a terrible PR move, because it is. But the world of business is a fickle mistress.

We'll see what happens.

[Kaelus]

KingCobra, on 04 March 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

I only have one thing to say to this and im not trying to put RUSS or BRIAN down but it boils down to a huge lack of vision and a huge lack of research as far as what the MechWarrior community and new MechWarrior players really wanted in a new MechWarrior Game. The game was designed for a game model like this game->https://moonbreakers.com/Intro it is almost the same game with spaceships as MWO started out to be. Which is evolving but still very shallow.

I wish it weren't true to be honest. They took WOT as a model to build upon and basically grabbed anything that sounded good from different games. Trials from LOL, and whatnot.

I know that Russ and Bryan are very, very passionate about this franchise and I assure you that everyone on that team wants this game to succeed. They just take the simplest choices, and path of least resistance.is generally the result. I imagine it comes from inexperience and a small team? Granted they aren't that small and you would think they would hire more but that's their decisions to make.

[urmamasllama]

Ima do some math here. They stated that they would be developing two mechs a month from now on but we've only been seeing 1 a month. Its been 4 months since they said that and they need 4 mechs to do a proper clan release which would line up with March of April for a launch lining up perfectly with the story line.


TL;DR either they've dropped the balled or they are good at keeping quiet about cool new stuff

Edited by urmamasllama, 04 March 2013 - 08:52 AM.

[Zyllos]

urmamasllama, on 04 March 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

Ima do some math here. They stated that they would be developing two mechs a month from now on but we've only been seeing 1 a month. Its been 4 months since they said that and they need 4 mechs to do a proper clan release which would line up with March of April for a launch lining up perfectly with the story line.


TL;DR either they've dropped the balled or they are good at keeping quiet about cool new stuff

Yup, this is one of my "fits the facts but is still speculation" as to why the OP's ideas lean me toward speculation, at this point in time.

[Terror Teddy]

Butane9000, on 04 March 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

- 2-3 new maps and more alternate variations of existing maps (Alpine Peaks, Caustic, Desert)

I think I made another post about it before but what we should have is:

-Minimum 3 maps per enviroment for diversity
-About 5-10 enviroments (Asteroid/Moon/Desert/Ice/Swamp/Jungle/Forest/Caustic)
-About 4-5 Weather conditions (Sunny/Rain/Snow/Monsoon/Hurricane/London Fog/Lightning Storm (******* with you lowlight))
-Night/Day/Dawn
-Low/Normal/High Gravity

Mix that and you can have a shitload of combos

[Novakaine]

Oh gawd how you Clannners.
Crack
Me
Up.
Look introduction of even the lightest of clan mechs would disrupt the game.
Giving Clan technologyy.
Thats not to say never for clan mechs, but not anytime soon.
Unless some serious nerfin is going to happen.
So suck it up tube-boy.
No time soon.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

I think I made another post about it before but what we should have is:

-Minimum 3 maps per enviroment for diversity
-About 5-10 enviroments (Asteroid/Moon/Desert/Ice/Swamp/Jungle/Forest/Caustic)
-About 4-5 Weather conditions (Sunny/Rain/Snow/Monsoon/Hurricane/London Fog/Lightning Storm (******* with you lowlight))
-Night/Day/Dawn
-Low/Normal/High Gravity

Mix that and you can have a shitload of combos

And they've already said that they've finished making the tools and resources needed to produce nearly any map they desire. Granted, I doubt that list includes the weather conditions you mentioned, which I too would like to see. So, if not all of your post, then most of it has just been finished, now they can take the team members who were making those things, and put them on making maps with them.

[KingCobra]

Kaelus, on 04 March 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

I wish it weren't true to be honest. They took WOT as a model to build upon and basically grabbed anything that sounded good from different games. Trials from LOL, and whatnot.

I know that Russ and Bryan are very, very passionate about this franchise and I assure you that everyone on that team wants this game to succeed. They just take the simplest choices, and path of least resistance.is generally the result. I imagine it comes from inexperience and a small team? Granted they aren't that small and you would think they would hire more but that's their decisions to make.

Well I know your right and Russ and Brian are doing there best to bring good content to the game as I stated I personally will wait and see over this year. But like most if it becomes to shallow and unrewarding a Game (Remembers Mektek Mod)I as well as many will have to find a game that satisfies the need for competition social functions and in general fun in the BT universe. Who knows its all speculation and conjuncture at this point it just a BETA right?

Edited by KingCobra, 04 March 2013 - 09:07 AM.

[MischiefSC]

I very well thought out and expressed set of concerns.

Which, however, has nothing to do with how consumers deal with products.

My only real question is when MWO is still around and doing fine a year from now will you even eat crow or just pretend this thread never happened?

[Gallowglas]

I would have taken this entire post as an interesting and objective discussion about the pace of content. Some of your points are, indeed, interesting. The title, however, sets such an overtly antagonistic tone with subjective, doom-saying implications that you've effectively just negated some of the objective points you've made, drawn battle lines, and turned this entire conversation into an argument rather than a debate.

Edited by Gallowglas, 04 March 2013 - 09:23 AM.

[Terror Teddy]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 04 March 2013 - 09:06 AM, said:

And they've already said that they've finished making the tools and resources needed to produce nearly any map they desire. Granted, I doubt that list includes the weather conditions you mentioned, which I too would like to see. So, if not all of your post, then most of it has just been finished, now they can take the team members who were making those things, and put them on making maps with them.

I just wish they could have gone with procedually generated maps.

Imagine having NO map ever being the same.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

I just wish they could have gone with procedually generated maps.

Imagine having NO map ever being the same.

Take that one step further and have procedurally generated WORLDS. Imagine maps with no borders.

[benth]

MischiefSC, on 04 March 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

I very well thought out and expressed set of concerns.

Which, however, has nothing to do with how consumers deal with products.

My only real question is when MWO is still around and doing fine a year from now will you even eat crow or just pretend this thread never happened?

Did you read the part of the post where he said he'd love to be proven wrong?

Obviously the people that take the time to think this through and research this game's ongoing development are going to, ultimately, want the game to succeed. If we ignore all flaws and mistakes, the game will suffer for it.

[Terror Teddy]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 04 March 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Take that one step further and have procedurally generated WORLDS. Imagine maps with no borders.

And now I want Mechwarrior Online running on ARMA2 or the ARMA3 engine...* sulk *

Besides, DayZ zombies are easier to deal with if I sit in a firestarter mech.

Edited by Terror Teddy, 04 March 2013 - 09:32 AM.

[ThatOneEdgyGuy]

I'm sure you have some good points. Unfortunately, the manner in which you've typed it up is filled with angsty hysteria. I'm gonna chalk that up to "Founder's Remorse", since those big bucks you dumped in are going down the toilet of failed endeavors.

Or something like that...

[Terror Teddy]

Thontor, on 04 March 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:

Imagine how often that would give one team an unfair advantage over the other

Depends on how you design the parameters for design and placement of forces.

And war tends to put one side at a disadvantage regardless. Just look at caustic if one team is energy heavy - that's disadvantage right there due to heat.

[Julian Huxley]

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

I just wish they could have gone with procedually generated maps.

Imagine having NO map ever being the same.

I don't know what you have been smoking sir, but this is the year of our lord 2013. Next you'll be demanding flying cars and universal healthcare!

[Lord Ikka]

Look lads, I want more content, CW, and the Clan Invasion to be out as soon as possible, but I don't believe that getting worked up about it and preclaiming the potential death of MWO is useful. We are supposed to get a dev update soon, maybe that will help calm the panic.

[FupDup]

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

And war tends to put one side at a disadvantage regardless. Just look at caustic if one team is energy heavy - that's disadvantage right there due to heat.

That example disadvantage is due the enemy's choice of tactics, not the map's layout.


Something more blatant would be having one team spawn in an open field and the other having lots of higher terrain to snipe from.