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[SideSt3p]

Sorry for the slow update! Traveling everyday for work is hard haha.

I'm still not seeing anything distinct

[Beazle]

Azantia, on 30 May 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

just would like to point one thing out. For those who keep bringing up clan mechs. please, dear god, educate yourselves on battletech lore....no clan mechs for at least another year......

just would like to point one thing out. For those who keep bringing up canon refrences. please, dear god, educate yourselves on battletech lore....clan mechs were first sighted over a year ago.

Is a year too quick for an encrypted message from beyond the periphery to reach Comstar? I don't think so.

[Hawkeye 72]

Beazle, on 02 June 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

just would like to point one thing out. For those who keep bringing up canon refrences. please, dear god, educate yourselves on battletech lore....clan mechs were first sighted over a year ago.

Is a year too quick for an encrypted message from beyond the periphery to reach Comstar? I don't think so.

elaborate?

[Mal]

Hawkeye 72, on 02 June 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

elaborate?

He's referring to ComStar's Outbound Light, which jumped into Clan Space in fall of 3048 (August or September, I think). Which does lead to the possibility that someone on the Outbound Light, sent back a recording of Clan 'Mechs to ComStar. Since there is (presumably) no HPG station on Huntress.. it would have had to travel to the closest ComStar station just as a 'radio' signal... and could just now be getting picked up by the closest station, or relayed to ComStar on Earth.

Personally.. I'm pretty sure ComStar has portable HPGs, and would have been able to FTL-transmit the information back.. thus allowing ComStar the time to decide to send the Precentor Martial out to meet the Clans.

[Joe Mallad]

Mal, on 02 June 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

He's referring to ComStar's Outbound Light, which jumped into Clan Space in fall of 3048 (August or September, I think). Which does lead to the possibility that someone on the Outbound Light, sent back a recording of Clan 'Mechs to ComStar. Since there is (presumably) no HPG station on Huntress.. it would have had to travel to the closest ComStar station just as a 'radio' signal... and could just now be getting picked up by the closest station, or relayed to ComStar on Earth.

Personally.. I'm pretty sure ComStar has portable HPGs, and would have been able to FTL-transmit the information back.. thus allowing ComStar the time to decide to send the Precentor Martial out to meet the Clans.

THIS

[Rejarial Galatan]

going to be a spectacular reveal for what ever it is. Although, in some of those boxes, I do see what looks like Mech parts, specifically the region where the legs join the rotation portion of a torso. My bet is mech 12, and tbh I will be floored if it is a Clan Mech.

[Mal]

Yoseful Mallad, on 02 June 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

THIS

To clarify... I don't think it's anything clan related.. I think we're getting the 'Unseen' as part of the big E3 reveal. Hopefully, with Founder's versions of a couple of them.

[cinco]

Zenehre, on 01 June 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

What we are seeing, seems pretty obvious to me. In my opinion, this is one of those collage type images where they take many many tiny images, and use them sort of like colored pixels to create a larger image. (like this: )


The light colored line is part of the actual image to be revealed, and we'll see more and more of it every day as they simply zoom out the overall picture. The reason we are seeing super distorted pixelated mech parts is because when you zoom waaaay in on a tiny image, thats what happens to it. The first image we saw was at max zoom, an it's slowing pulling out with the countdown.

What will be there when it's revealed is anybody's guess, but it looks to be a logo or symbol of some kind...could be anything with just that lightened curve to guess with though.

oh man what a narcissist.

[Hawkeye 72]

Beazle, on 02 June 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

just would like to point one thing out. For those who keep bringing up canon refrences. please, dear god, educate yourselves on battletech lore....clan mechs were first sighted over a year ago.

Is a year too quick for an encrypted message from beyond the periphery to reach Comstar? I don't think so.

Mal, on 02 June 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

He's referring to ComStar's Outbound Light, which jumped into Clan Space in fall of 3048 (August or September, I think). Which does lead to the possibility that someone on the Outbound Light, sent back a recording of Clan 'Mechs to ComStar. Since there is (presumably) no HPG station on Huntress.. it would have had to travel to the closest ComStar station just as a 'radio' signal... and could just now be getting picked up by the closest station, or relayed to ComStar on Earth.

Personally.. I'm pretty sure ComStar has portable HPGs, and would have been able to FTL-transmit the information back.. thus allowing ComStar the time to decide to send the Precentor Martial out to meet the Clans.

Yoseful Mallad, on 02 June 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

THIS

Yes I am well aware of the Outbound Light. I just fail to see how this constitutes evidence that Clan mechs were seen before 3049? The outbound light was a spaceship, therefore would not have seen Clan mechs until after they were captured. As for this encrypted message, I have never read any source material that depicts the Outbound Light transmitting a message to Comstar before their capture, nor do I see how they would have had the means to do so. Also not sure what meeting between the Precentor Martial to which you refer. It is also my understanding they did not meet until after the invasion had begun.

Remember the Voice of Kerensky was transmitted as a radio signal, and it did not reach the outer limits of the Inner Sphere until 3550...so I doubt the Outbound Light got off a message that was received ahead of time.

All Comstar knew was they were searching for the remnants of the SLDF, that they were following the presumed Exodus Road, and that one of their exploratory vessels was lost. However they could not retrace the path as no predesignated jump sequence was given.

So I am not sure why this OP is freaking out about people reading their canon. A year is far too short of a time for a message delivered by anything but an HPG link to make it from the Kerensky Cluster back to the Outer Rim. Also don't know where this Clan mech stuff is coming from.

[evil713]

well i guess match the rings up to get the full picture. but theres not enought fragments yet.

[Mal]

Hawkeye 72, on 02 June 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

So I am not sure why this OP is freaking out about people reading their canon. A year is far too short of a time for a message delivered by anything but an HPG link to make it from the Kerensky Cluster back to the Outer Rim. Also don't know where this Clan mech stuff is coming from.

Agreed.. if ComStar didn't have some portable HPG-type technology on the Outbound Light, there's no way a message would have reached the Periphery yet. Nothing in canon ever mentions the Outbound Light sending messages (or, heck, ever being seen again by anyone from the Sphere)..

From Sarna.net:

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The fate of the Outbound Light's crew is unknown. Initial reports from the early days of the Clan invasion indicated that the crew and ships had been returned to ComStar, though with their memories and databanks of their route wiped, but such reports turned out to be false. More than likely, they were taken as bondsmen by the Smoke Jaguars, though their disposition following the destruction of that Clan is not known.[/size][/font]

According to Explorer Corps doctrine at that time, the crew did not file a predetermined route along which it would travel, allowing the crew the freedom to change their route should any promising leads develop. While this allowed them to stumble upon Huntress, it also made it virtually impossible for ComStar to discover the route the Outbound Light took and locate the Clan Homeworlds.

It's not Clan..at least, not if Piranha is sticking to lore as closely as they seem to have been up till this point.[/size]
It's the 'unseen'... or, something equally as awesome.

Edited by Mal, 02 June 2012 - 10:51 PM.

[Hawkeye 72]

Mal, on 02 June 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

Agreed.. if ComStar didn't have some portable HPG-type technology on the Outbound Light, there's no way a message would have reached the Periphery yet. Nothing in canon ever mentions the Outbound Light sending messages (or, heck, ever being seen again by anyone from the Sphere)..

There are three pieces of source material that hint at it's fate. The first is that the crew was returned, however they were mind-wiped and the ships logs were erased. The second piece states that the crew were never heard or seen from again. And the third piece states that only a seven-man survey team returned to the Inner Sphere.

When Task Force Serpent and Bulldog reached Huntress they found no sign of the ship or its crew either.

So yeah, until I see it written in stone I don't believe anyone saw or knew of the Clans until the invasion (minus the Periphery Pirates who got their ***** kicked and Phelan Kell). Comstar may have known something was out there, but they were clueless as to what

[Mal]

Hawkeye 72, on 02 June 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

So yeah, until I see it written in stone I don't believe anyone saw or knew of the Clans until the invasion (minus the Periphery Pirates who got their ***** kicked and Phelan Kell). Comstar may have known something was out there, but they were clueless as to what

I don't think ComStar even knew anything was amiss.. Outbound Light didn't file a 'flight plan'.. they were just kinda jumping around.. If the Clans hadn't come and started picking fights in the Periphery.. ComStar would have just assumed jump drive malfunction, if they never heard from Outbound Light again...

[Therion I]

Zenehre, on 01 June 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

What we are seeing, seems pretty obvious to me. In my opinion, this is one of those collage type images where they take many many tiny images, and use them sort of like colored pixels to create a larger image. (like this: )


The light colored line is part of the actual image to be revealed, and we'll see more and more of it every day as they simply zoom out the overall picture. The reason we are seeing super distorted pixelated mech parts is because when you zoom waaaay in on a tiny image, thats what happens to it. The first image we saw was at max zoom, an it's slowing pulling out with the countdown.

What will be there when it's revealed is anybody's guess, but it looks to be a logo or symbol of some kind...could be anything with just that lightened curve to guess with though.

Has no one tried this yet? Surely this is the answer!

[Mal]

We'll get the next piece in like 10 minutes... maybe that will help.

[Mal]

=( The white band on today's image.. no longer looks like a radar/sensor 'sweep'...


Perhaps the bands are meant to be some sort of guide for lining the pictures up?

[Waladil]

I don't think we can put them together into a cogent piece. I'm trying now, but it's not really working. Since theres been one new one per day, we're going to get one more before the timer ends anyway, and I've only been able to put two together. #3 can be put on top of #2 and their white lines connect pretty well. And you can kinda put #5 (the new one) to the right of #2 and the part where the white line shrinks and turns up at the very left edge of #5... wait a second.


I lied! Sorta. If you start rotating and stuff, you can get logical-looking connections for 1-4, but #5 can't really be fit in anywhere. For one thing, its white part is really thick and no other one is. There's a way to kinda line it up with #1, but they don't really connect, just look like a midpiece could connect them. Anyway, here's what I put together so that you guys can see what I've been playing with, and maybe you can refine it.



I have to say that the lines look very vaguely like the bottom part of the FRR's logo. But that's almost definitely coincidence.

[Mal]

Looking at them all like that, it almost looks like the two white bands from yesterday's picture.. have 'merged' into a single band.

[wanderer]

I do believe we're on the right track- the pics are each chunks of a "collage" style picture. Each one unto itself is a "piece" of a larger image when you step back a bit.

[Waladil]

The only problem I see is that at the current rate of picture releases, we're only going to get one more before the timer hits 0 anyway. Kinda seems pointless then.