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[Zeus X]

PGI, EA wants their employee's back.

[Guntherstreiker]

Bad solution to make a 3thd view queue, it will divide the numbers of players available for a game.
PGI should better simply cancel 3thd person view ; It makes immersion impossible, and gives imba advantage.

[Meridian]

Kaarde, on 21 August 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I've been with this thread since it first kicked off and am not surprised in the least to the reactions.

I wonder how that meeting went where they decided to skip the 1pv only queues.
I bet that discussion went well over Tim Hortons coffee and donuts.
Just imagine the look on the poor interns face when they gave him flame proof underwear and told him to post the announcements from the devs. Then finally told him to try to find a ray of sunshine in the firestorm to follow.

Kaarde, on 21 August 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I've been with this thread since it first kicked off and am not surprised in the least to the reactions.

I wonder how that meeting went where they decided to skip the 1pv only queues.
I bet that discussion went well over Tim Hortons coffee and donuts.
Just imagine the look on the poor interns face when they gave him flame proof underwear and told him to post the announcements from the devs. Then finally told him to try to find a ray of sunshine in the firestorm to follow.

I suspect the phrase "Let them drive commandos" was spoken.

[EvangelionUnit]

Tal Kharn, on 21 August 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

I don't get what the fuss is all about. I think it provides several negatives to using it. Arm lock forced? No mini-map, uav camera shouting "i'm here i'm here"...........i welcome fools using this mode.

I did like looking at my paintjob though.

what arm lock ? there are allready pic's on /mwog/ where a K2 cata if firing large lasers to the left of the crosshair ...

[Cycleboy]

DCM Zeus, on 21 August 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

PGI, EA wants their employee's back.

Awwwwww.... *SNAP*!!!

[Rashkae]

Kaarde, on 21 August 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

Then finally told him to try to find a ray of sunshine in the firestorm to follow.

The only ray of sunshine is the line "It's working beautifully" and that particular ray came out of a place where the sun normally does not shine.

[Zeus X]

I'm quoting this from this thread.

http://mwomercs.com/.../page__st__1040

Smoke Dancer, on 21 August 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Some of me isn't surprised that they've back tracked on this as there has been a 'we know better than you guys' attitude since the get go. What I am surprised about is that PGI/IPG would break Canadian Law by implementing 1st and 3rd person view in the same game after saying they wouldn't. Surely they employ someone at PGI/IPG to check these things? False advertising and misrepresentation are not something the Canadians are keen on.

Part 2 section 17 of British Columbia's Sale of goods act may be of interest to one or two people. As a Company based in Vancouver B.C. PGI are probably familier with this but I've posted a link for all the rest of you folks out there.

http://www.bclaws.ca...ide/00_96410_01


And for those who don't want to read the link:

Sale by description

17 (1) In a contract for the sale or lease of goods by description, there is an implied condition that the goods must correspond with the description.

(2) If the sale or lease is by sample, as well as by description, it is not sufficient that the bulk of the goods correspond with the sample if the goods do not also correspond with the description.

Enough said?

[StandingCow]

Hey the forums are back. Continue the feedback! *gets popcorn*

[Burpitup]

everyone i watch playing the game shut it off. as i did myself

[Altair Fenix]

Edited by Altair Fenix, 21 August 2013 - 07:08 PM.

[Jody Von Jedi]

I don't care for 3rd person pov. I prefer to be immersed in the game. Cockpit view for me.

[Devil Fox]

*Slow Clap* Nice removal of any topic talking about 3PV... what next, any that talk about CW?

[Ripper X]

Doing some testing I find that there is a bit of an advantage using 3PV while shooting over hills and such. You are able to target and hit foes using 3PV that you normally can not target and hit using 1PV.

[skumm]

setting it as the default setting and making you go into ooptions to turn it off really sucks. No interest in 3pv.

[Scarcer]

Just your friendly public service reminder:

The state of the current actively vocal community:

• 25% of the community is upset because 3PV is in the game at all, or needs heavy tweeking.
  
• Another 25% are upset because there is no hardcore mode, and a command chair post heavily suggesting the devs had a change of heart. Which brings into question PGI's integrity.
  
• 25% are neutral, or happy.
  
• The latter 25% are upset because of PGI's communication, more specifically scumbag such as this example:

Note: Content developers, we are not upset with you, we love you, and need you. Just the head of the totem pole has a disfigured face; ruining the remaining establishment.

The Game is still good and fun, don't get us wrong, but this current controversy needs to be properly addressed.

Edited by Scarcer, 21 August 2013 - 07:19 PM.

[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

http://www.mwlldownload.com/

No 3PV!

[Ranik Selesky]

And the server is back. Gentlemen.....


RESUME YOUR FLAMING!

[ROJ]

Scarcer, on 21 August 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Note: Content developers, we are not upset with you, we love you, and need you. Just the head of the totem pole has a disfigured face; ruining the remaining establishment.

The Game is still good and fun, don't get us wrong, but this current controversy needs to be properly addressed.

PGI, should, hire some proper PR people; then 2/3 of all the kaka-storm, nerd-rage, on this community wouldn't even exist. You people are really not that professional, consistent or coherent when it comes to these things, seriously.

Like i said earlier, failing to properly explain and present this product while not being able to maturely communicate with your clients is one vital reason why things have become this bitter.

Back to topic, regarding 3PV:

With 3PV, you can hide behind cliffs and take peeks at approaching targets making it easier for you reconsider your next move.

Torso/Legs twisting and moving around terrain is much easier and more intuitive in 3pv, making you more agile in your movements, compared to 1pv.

Hitting a target is easy in 3pv due to less blind spots, which allows you to perform more accurate maneuvers and successful focus aiming during a brawl, that was observed while using a Cicada to engage a Catapult.

In other words, its a broken feature, that should have been introduced earlier during development. At least earlier, there was room for the whole game's rules and mechanics to be engineered and focused on both modes. Now the game is 1pv focused and shoving 3pv into it makes it broken.

Potentially, some people will exploit 3PV, properly and they will excel at it, making 1pv dedicated players slight disadvantaged when engaged by a more agile and small opponent with 3pv mode on.

Also, my concern for 3pv, with its sudden introduction, is that it seems to be a 'cornerstone' for shifting this game from a tactical simulator into an arcade, brainless shooter.

Edited by ROJ, 21 August 2013 - 07:47 PM.

[KrimsonKore]

IceGryphon, on 20 August 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

I want my money back. How things have been handled in the past year alone is reason enough regardless of what features I like/dislike.

[Big Bad Wulf]

They will never listen to us, they never have and never will. I doubt PGI will issue refunds, but your Bank/Credit Card Company might. We will see how this goes.