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[Relic1701]

Kaladias, on 03 September 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

So...Nerfed Gauss and PPCs, but not the AC20s? So... Now the only ranged weapons we're going to see are auto cannons, missiles, and lasers. Remember when this game had variety? I'm predicting a HUGE influx of LRM boats, and AC dakka.
Big Thumbs down

Yes, I do...all I've been seeing for months is Gauss/PPc builds, now we might see some variety!

Wolfways, on 03 September 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

[*]This is a joke right? I mean...really... If not, then when do we get real DHS? Nobody can be stupid enough to think ERPPC's are viable without 2.0DHS now.
[/list]

Maybe bring some backup weapons instead of that extra PPC!

Oh...and...

[ORION]

[RapierE01]

Before complaining about numbers look how it works ingame... i love these Armchair Generals.

Edited by RapierE01, 03 September 2013 - 10:17 AM.

[Kraven Kor]

Reducing PPC projectile speed = bad.

Having Gauss at 1500m/s and PPC at 2000 seems much more believable.

Still no 1st Person Only queue.

This is my first post to MWO forums in, what, 4 days now.

[JohnnyWayne]

I gonna jump in my AC40 jager and ram my feet so deep up your butts that you wish it were just 2 PPCs. You ruin my gameplay? Ok, I'll ruin yours too. Accompanied with some serieous bitching.

Destroying my marauder? I'll show ya!

Have a **** day.

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 03 September 2013 - 10:17 AM.

[stoph]

Butane9000, on 03 September 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Did you even read what I typed and the notes Kunae? The C-bill versions are coming next Tuesday. The launch patch is the following week. Meaning we're possibly getting another mech on the 17th?

In the patch notes:
Speaking of patience (ORION), this month the Orion makes its début in the game! The “Protector” Orion Hero ‘Mech is sure to be an instant classic with a paint job that is simply gorgeous. The Orion Standard variants will be available for MC on the 10th and for C-bills on the 17th.

C-bill versions will be available at launch.

[Mangonel TwoSix]

Well. Happy to see the ppc projectile speed reduced. Definitely a step in right direction. Combined with the heat nerf though. Is it too much? Can't wait to try it out.

[Tristan X]

JoJoxy, on 03 September 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

Very amusing. This thread proves that no matter what PGI does, there will always be the next batch of qq'ing, because someone's favorite exploit got fixed, or someone's favorite feature didn't make it in.

Yeah right, you'll stop playing yadda yadda. I don't believe you. And if you really do, good for the game, because all this hate is unbearable.

I guess PGI must be doing something right here.

THANK YOU, JoJoxy, for saying exactly what I've been thinking this whole time. The hate and complaining is ridiculous.

[Iqfish]

Kraven Kor, on 03 September 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Reducing PPC projectile speed = bad.

Having Gauss at 1500m/s and PPC at 2000 seems much more believable.

Still no 1st Person Only queue.

This is my first post to MWO forums in, what, 4 days now.

kthxbai

[C E Dwyer]

Thontor, on 03 September 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

on the front page:





5,625 MC

all hero mechs, to date, have been 75 MC per ton.

Why does the Orion look disturbingly like Optimus Prime on an acid trip (those colours are seriously going)

[Lance425]

Dawnstealer, on 03 September 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

So I guess I'll have to give up on my dream of fielding this?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f3bbbde866cc606

*sound of bugle playing Taps*

Just an amazing build! Sorry I didn't think of it myself... ;-)

[Pilotasso]

I have an RS atlas with quad PPC+Gauss. This patch gameplay nerfs certainly makes sense in the light that I killed several PGI staff recently with it.

[xCico]

Thank you for ****(sry I had to) sake for this, this I can call a patch, thanks PGI!

[Sean von Steinike]

Awesome, a tutorial. Now we don't need 3rd person garbage since that was put if for people that can't grasp torso twist. Or was that yet another lie?

[Tezcatli]

Suprentus, on 03 September 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

So no one remembers how debilitating PPCs and ER PPCs were when they were this hot? No one remembers how anyone with PPCs or ER PPCs were overly easy targets who shut down every 5 seconds? Nobody? Well, I guess fads just swing back and forth here.

Back then you also couldn't hit anything because of bad hit registration and lack of host state rewind for it. So they buffed the heat and speed of the projectile. Then HSR came into play and you had a ridiculous weapon. So now they're clearly hitting it on all those fronts to see if they did indeed over buff once HSR was implemented.

[Lord Perversor]

JohnnyWayne, on 03 September 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

I gonna jump in my AC40 jager and ram my feet so deep up your butts that you wish it were just 2 PPCs. You ruin my gameplay? Ok, I'll ruin yours too. Accompanied with some serieous bitching.

Destroying my marauder? I'll show ya!

Have a **** day.

you are not the first Dual ac/20 Jager to cross the battlefields.

Also i'll be happy sniping your weak side torso and laugh at you when you die.

[Felbombling]

First thoughts... I am crossing my fingers that the Gauss Rifle sound effects will be updated and cool... sort of like a charge up and a thunderclap of a discharge when fired. The zero damage under 90m fix on the standard PPC is a little harsh, I could have gotten behind a tiered damage value at stages under 90m, much like they have now, but I support the heat and projectile speed changes. Step in the right direction. They still need to look at core game mechanics though.

[Star Captain Obvious Kerensky]

Good to see that PGI is continuing to make sniping be as terrible as brawling, rather than make brawling better.

I won't be content until group fire is removed, random fire cone is implemented, and each player has to wait their turn to move their mech.

[Reno Blade]

Zen Hachetaki, on 03 September 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

Reno Blade said:

Awesome! ermm... ORION !!!

SRM2 buff is a surprise. Hope we will have a use on the smaller mechs now instead of SRM6. More diversitiy = Great !

PPC tweaks = Great !
The community demanded a "simple" fix rather than "overly complicated fluff" for the 6 months of PPC-warrior.
Here it is finally.
Now we will have some diversity rather than only PPC/Gauss everywhere.

With these tweaks we now have a directfire medium-long range weapon (PPC), a long range sniper (Gauss) that both need more skill for short range and a All-rounder (ERPPC) that can be used in all ranges, but is limited in number and rate of fire due to the heat.
No more 3 all-round weapons. They all got their purpose now. People asked for the vision of PGI for the purpose of the weapons.
Sounds perfect imho.

Fixes for HSR and Kintaro = Great !

Adv. Zoom = Great !

Tutorial = Great !

Logged in simply to "like" this post - folks - we have been asking for these points as a general whole. Different weapons for different roles - not one size fits all! Since they cannot make minimum range hit penalties work for reg PPC then this is a fair trade off to try at least so folks have to rethink their builds. People who have a hard time with this are the min/maxers who cannot create a balanced approach and only want 1 weapon system to worry about - preferably all on Alpha.

TRY the new patch - PROVIDE REAL FEEDBACK afterwards and let the game continue to grow. This is NOT the last time they are going to tweak these weapons so settle down on the QQ!

Thanks, PGI - get CW implemented and I may buy those packages so I have more to grind for than just regular CBills.

Thank you!
Your response is very welcome and refreshes my faith in the community

[SgtKinCaiD]

Great patch overall.

I'm waiting to test the gauss rifle but i don't think it was needed with the tweaks on the ppc/er ppc.

[arghmace]

D1al T0ne, on 03 September 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

Goodbye Firebrand. Wish I hadn't paid real money for a PPC / AC mech that runs hot to begin with. Guess that'll teach me to spend money on this game.

So what you're saying is that a mech with 2 ballistic slots and 6 energy slots is meant to have just PPC's and Gausses. Anything else is just impossible? Like having 2 UAC5 and 4 ML for instance? Anyways I can still fit PPC's and Gausses in that Firebrand very well, just tried doing a few builds in smurfy.