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[MischiefSC]

As to 'rate the game and not the developer'.

This is disingenuous as the game is still being sold on the promise of what it will be, not what it is. You can't gauge what the game will be without discussing the developer. How someone feels about the developer is thus an absolutely valid approach to modifying your opinion of the game itself. That's going to be different for everyone but it is absolutely valid.

I do think it's painful that the positive reviews tend to be primarily "ignore the haters, I'm rating this game higher because they rated it so low" or "It's got problems now but it's GOING to be amazing!" and "It's F2P, so if you don't expect much it's got tons!"

I think there's a lot to recommend the game taken alone, especially if you use the film grain remover. That I have to use a 3rd party product just to remove the film grain and actually see the high quality of graphics in the game though is another negative.

The big problem? So many people *want* to love this game. I *want* to justify giving them $110 for the whole phoenix kit. I've got the money right now. I struggle with it from time to time. I want a reason, an excuse to believe in PGI and invest in the time I might spend in MW:O. Currently though with the way things have been left there's no reason to. So I'll hang around in F2P until X:Rebirth comes out and Star Citizen releases the Dogfighting Alpha at which point I'll move on to games that want my money and don't treat me like a chump, insult my intelligence, include passive/aggressive comments in dev posts, mock me on twitter, make it perfectly clear that while they'll take my money I'm certainly not the target audience for the game or otherwise make me feel foolish for wanting to give them money.

Speaking of Star Citizen, they recently had a dust-up over the release of an in-game store while the game is currently only essentially in demo mode. People got angry and upset; they felt like it was a cash grab. Their community manager was on it within an HOUR of the event - this was on the Saturday of Labor Day weekend and while they were at a gaming con by the way. He posted again a couple hours later, smoothing things a bit. 24 hours later Chris Roberts, head of the company, made an intelligent, well reasoned and respectful post where he apologized and clarified and mollified everyone. Then, just to make it clear, the cost of everything in the store was reduced by 50-80%. They didn't have to; everyone was pretty contented with the response. It was a misunderstanding and a mistake in communication, not an actual cash grab. By the way? He made that response on the holiday weekend because *it was important*.

In a lot of ways that's why people are upset. There's a lot of great things to say about MW:O, so much potential to it. We're customers though. We're spending our time and/or money on it and as such reasonably have a customers expectations. It's a big market; there's a lot of games that want my time and/or money. How they treat me is relevant to my opinion of the service they're trying to sell me every bit as much as how 'fun' it is.

That's worth rating. In fact it's an important part of rating the experience a game provides. I wish I could convince PGI of that.

[Top Secret Fifth Account Shhh]

dymlos2003, on 17 September 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Yes, now wait and stop acting like whining kids not getting their toy NOW

See thing is, I'm not whining.

I already won this game.

Holla!

[DragonsFire]

Ecliptor, on 17 September 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

can we not just keep all of the trolls in the same spot? like under a bridge somewhere? well in their case in their moms basements? i don't want to have to listen to them on every frigging website...

You can keep them on your ignore list as an alternative.

[XIRUSPHERE]

Customers got burned and scorned, some like myself got insulted by the customer relations team for a simple request and tried to hit eject but were told to pound sand. Every decision PGI has made to date will stand for all to see as a warning. Metacritic is only telling a very small part of the story but is finally a voice to be heard that cannot be silenced.

They even had to disable comments on the launch trailer the same day it went up. You guys can white knight all you want and try to defend an addiction but it's not going to help. The time for reckoning is upon us in all it's glory.

[soarra]

Sean von Steinike, on 17 September 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

I gave it 5.

me too
The guys giving it a 10 are just as bad as the guys giving it a 0.
TROLLS

Edited by soarra, 17 September 2013 - 04:10 PM.

[Gremlich Johns]

Shumabot, on 17 September 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

"I'm so rich I don't care if I lose my money!"
"If I lose my money I'm gonna cry about it!"

Ok guy.

This is a troll. Stop it.

[Name140704]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 September 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

and yet, here most of you still are, and yet, even with flaws many people are still having fun. Or are PGI added crack to our keyboards and we are just addicts who can't stop.

If you truly believe what you are saying, why are you still here? What's Einstein's definition of insanity again?

I'm here because I want to be. I still hold out that just maybe the game will turn in to what was sold to me. I'm not going to go away because things didn't go how I wanted them to just so a new crop of players can come in here and get the same speech about upcoming features that we had in October 2012 without a counter voice. My question to you is why would you even need to question why I'm still here?

[TexAce]

I bet at least half of the negative reviewers still play the game.

[Dymlos2003]

XIRUSPHERE, on 17 September 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Customers got burned and scorned, some like myself got insulted by the customer relations team for a simple request and tried to hit eject but were told to pound sand. Every decision PGI has made to date will stand for all to see as a warning. Metacritic is only telling a very small part of the story but is finally a voice to be heard that cannot be silenced.

They even had to disable comments on the launch trailer the same day it went up. You guys can white knight all you want and try to defend an addiction but it's not going to help. The time for reckoning is upon us in all it's glory.

You mean the vocal minority that threw a hissy fit? Yeah I see it happen to a lot of games

[Rina Fujimoto]

I love how all the 10/10 reviews are just...

"Hi, I liked Battletech when I was a kid.

I like MWO because it has Battletech.

I still enjoy it.

10/10."

Thanks Golds, I learned a lot from that, I can see why I shouldn't believe any of the negative reviews, thank you.

[StandingCow]

haruko, on 17 September 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

I love how all the 10/10 reviews are just...

"Hi, I liked Battletech when I was a kid.

I like MWO because it has Battletech.

I still enjoy it.

10/10."

Thanks Golds, I learned a lot from that, I can see why I shouldn't believe any of the negative reviews, thank you.

Stop throwing all golds into the same bucket, many of us are NOT happy with the game.

[KhanHeir]

StandingCow, on 17 September 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

Stop throwing all golds into the same bucket, many of us are NOT happy with the game.

golds isn't so much being a founder now as much as it has now evolved into an individual who refuses to see the state of the game.

[Galen Crayn]

My reasons i gave 2/10 - There is a 0 too so its more than a normal 2 of 10.

Maps - the scale is a joke. Look at the maps and you will see so many mistakes. Grass that is 4 Meter high, dirt tracks wider than 8 lanes on a motorway... You feel like being a mansized robot not a 12m high Mech

Gamemodes - There is only ONE in 2 variations

The startpage is awkward, only advertisment to spend real money. How to even start the game is confusing...

No content, only the same 12vs12 fights all the time...

Ghostheat

That is for me a 2 out of 10 if 10 is the best game ever.

Thats not trolling, its the truth.


2 Points are for the fantastic mech designs alex made (but mostly bad implemented) and the fight mechanic itself

Would it be a beta i would give a 6 or 7 because the base idea is great and it feels good

Edited by Galen Crayn, 17 September 2013 - 04:47 PM.

[DeaconW]

StandingCow, on 17 September 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

it's fun but it is not ready to have the beta tag removed.

Apparently PGI agrees with you given the title pic on the website...

[StandingCow]

DeaconW, on 17 September 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Apparently PGI agrees with you given the title pic on the website...

I see it removed... try clearing your cache?

[Karazyr]

Il come right out and say it: i hate this community, or more specifically the forum community the real players are bros in my book.

yes PGI fails hard at PR and community relations that much is true, HOWEVER! metabombing a game you supposedly love out of a sense of entitlement is blatantly childish, you should all be ashamed you call yourself thinking men when you bomb a game for it not meeting your oh so refined expectations? #savemwo? my arse!

by bombing the user section of the reviews you have turned people away from the game, is this what you want? the battletech franchise to wither and die?

lets hope the new users are smart enough to spot enraged trolls and only read the critic reviews. i know i will get called a white knight for saying something positive about the game but honestly im beyond caring.

[Warprince85]

wait wait so let me get this straight... I can sell you something a year ago and sell you(toolboxes) add ons to the original product which was not what you wanted and was promised, and that would be okay? Oh mama what other dead IP's do you like? let me start a project to fleece your other pocket. *facepalm*

[KhanHeir]

Derrpy, on 17 September 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

by bombing the user section of the reviews you have turned people away from the game, is this what you want? the battletech franchise to wither and die?

Don't you get it? It's already dead.

[Karazyr]

KhanHeir, on 17 September 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Don't you get it? It's already dead.

Hardly, the forums petulant whining does not signify the end times, as long as players play and spend some cash the game will survive

[Syllogy]

Sybreed, on 17 September 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

?
I answered the guy laughing at the "stalinist approach" to the forums accusation. My OP being censored is kind of an example of a stalinist approach.

Thought that was clear...

If it was a Stalinist approach, the thread would have been deleted, not censored.