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#341 RickySpanish

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:42 PM

It sure is great watching that user score slowly creep upward despite all of the whining, crying and generally ******** behaviour of the folk voting. Check out the helpfulness ratings on some of the more in depth user reviews handing the game anything above a 5, oh man you guys are such tossers hahah. I gave it a modest 6/10, I'm wishing I gave it higher now just to offset all the foolishness, but I wouldn't feel right taking part in it. I reckon a 5.1 user average is exceptional when one considers the number of low rated troll reviews being handed out.

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#342 Alois Hammer

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

View PostChavette, on 17 September 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

Dont think its possible as one of the main attractions should of been the patch and how are you gonna review a launched game before the launch patch?


Except that now, seeing the patch, it's obvious that a review could have been done 3 days ago and it would still be 99% accurate. :)

#343 Will Strip 4 Cbills

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 17 September 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

It sure is great watching that user score slowly creep upward despite all of the whining, crying and generally ******** behaviour of the folk voting. Check out the helpfulness ratings on some of the more in depth user reviews handing the game anything above a 5, oh man you guys are such tossers hahah. I gave it a modest 6/10, I'm wishing I gave it higher now just to offset all the foolishness, but I wouldn't feel right taking part in it. I reckon a 5.1 user average is exceptional when one considers the number of low rated troll reviews being handed out.

This game's going to make money and there's nothing you nobs can do about it. Ooh yeah, suck it up =)


Very mature and intelligent.

#344 Vanguard319

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:54 PM

View Postharuko, on 17 September 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

I love how all the 10/10 reviews are just...

"Hi, I liked Battletech when I was a kid.

I like MWO because it has Battletech.

I still enjoy it.

10/10."

Thanks Golds, I learned a lot from that, I can see why I shouldn't believe any of the negative reviews, thank you.

and the people giving 0 and spamming Squwak!squwak!squwak! are helpful?

#345 Wired

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:57 PM

View PostVanguard319, on 17 September 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

and the people giving 0 and spamming Squwak!squwak!squwak! are helpful?


If the extremes where canceled out, the score would be about the same to be honest. Maybe lower. There are people posting positive reviews using the names of detractors to the game. Of course, the same goes for the opposite.

#346 RG Notch

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostWill Strip 4 Cbills, on 17 September 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:


Very mature and intelligent.

Yes my sides fake reviews are countering your sides fake reviews. Whoop dee ******* doooo. :)

Lets see what the professionals think.

#347 MadcatX

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:09 PM

So this is pretty much proof that metacritic is a bad metric, just like any other user-based review system since you'll have the extremes on both sides artificially inflating the scores.

There will be an influx of new players of course. The key right now is player retention, I do hope the devs step up a bit more to keep some of these new players.

#348 Mawai

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

The most amusing thing about the meta-critic reviews is that I find myself generally agreeing with 90% them ... almost all of them. Most of the comments, whether someone rated the game a 0 or a 10, generally say much the same thing.

1) The FPS mech combat aspect to the game looks good/great

2) There are significant features that have been promised since closed beta that are still not in the game (community warfare)

3) The game is MechWarrior "instant action" (similar to that available in the old single player MechWarrior titles) and it completely lacks the meta-game aspects which would give it more depth and longevity. In particular,
- the game could really use a good XP system (the current system has been strongly critiqued since closed beta) that would be rewarding and encourage folks to play.
- Community warfare as mentioned
- a proper game lobby to allow for the organization of tournaments and other player run activities.

Depending on how much weight an individual reviewer gives to the FPS features and game balance vs all of the promised but missing meta-game features ... I can easily see scores ranging from 1 to 9.

Finally, if PGI is unhappy with the reviews, I think they have only themselves to blame. Poor communication on their part has perhaps alienated a significant number of members of their core fan base. Folks who may be emotionally invested in the IP and who are truly upset with the apparent lack of communication from PGI and the apparent lack of responsiveness in regards to their concerns.It is a PR problem that could have been better dealt with ...

Edited by Mawai, 17 September 2013 - 06:14 PM.


#349 Damien Matashy

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:15 PM

View PostMackman, on 17 September 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:


But they're not just "venting frustration," and they aren't doing so in a way that will achieve positive results. They are doing so in order to deliberately harm the game and the company, in the forum most suited for doing so.


I am going to say this as nice as i can, a lot of people of the forums that are and are not founders, that have been here for almost the whole development of the game, have tired to say to the devs. "well loved the pillars that you came out with, we believe you are going to give us a great game" a lot of us supported them in almost everything. when the ECM issue came around, lots of people had constructive ideas on how to fix the issues that were happening, they were basically ignored. the communication that happen from the devs and the community has now become the devs in a castle and there fan base attempting to siege that castle. instead of the back and forth that had been happening, it was slow and gradual and now all you see is the ask the dev questions, that really don't answer questions that people have.

you know what drove me away from this game, it wasn't the ECM, or the PPC boats, or the non-reason that you have to buy 3 mechs to master it ( which i still think is the biggest dumbest thing ever) but the way the the devs just took a really good IP that had so much potential and basically turned into call of duty: mechwarrior.

#350 Livewyr

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:21 PM

Whoever those people were, who created the new accounts just to give the game another bad review honestly need to go upstairs and tell their mother they're going out to play- and grab some fresh air.

Giving a pissy biased review is one thing- making multiple accounts to weight it falsely, is short-sighted and I kind of hope PGI can track down their IP and IP/Mac Addy ban them.

Seriously.

(Especially the pissant that is spoofing Sean Lang and Bryan Eckman- sue this ***hole)

Edited by Livewyr, 17 September 2013 - 06:23 PM.


#351 MechFrog1

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:30 PM

View PostLivewyr, on 17 September 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Whoever those people were, who created the new accounts just to give the game another bad review honestly need to go upstairs and tell their mother they're going out to play- and grab some fresh air.

Giving a pissy biased review is one thing- making multiple accounts to weight it falsely, is short-sighted and I kind of hope PGI can track down their IP and IP/Mac Addy ban them.

Seriously.

(Especially the pissant that is spoofing Sean Lang and Bryan Eckman- sue this ***hole)

People have a right to share their appraisals of the game. Banning everyone who says anything bad about your game is a perfect way to kill it entirely. It'd be a PR disaster.

Edited by mint frog, 17 September 2013 - 06:32 PM.


#352 Livewyr

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:33 PM

View Postmint frog, on 17 September 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

People have a right to share their appraisals of the game. Banning everyone who says anything bad about your game is a perfect way to kill it entirely.


I'm not talking about the people are giving their one review.. you have a right to your opinion and sharing it on a review site..

You do NOT have a right to 4 opinions, or the opinions of Bryan Eckman, Sean Lang, or Russ Bullock.

#353 Nekki Basara

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:33 PM

View PostLivewyr, on 17 September 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Whoever those people were, who created the new accounts just to give the game another bad review honestly need to go upstairs and tell their mother they're going out to play- and grab some fresh air.

Giving a pissy biased review is one thing- making multiple accounts to weight it falsely, is short-sighted and I kind of hope PGI can track down their IP and IP/Mac Addy ban them.

Seriously.

(Especially the pissant that is spoofing Sean Lang and Bryan Eckman- sue this ***hole)
How do you feel about people posting and blatantly stating that they are going to falsely rate the game as 10 to balance out the low numbers? Do you think maybe they should be removed too so as to avoid an incorrect metacritic score and thus later cries of manipulation by PGI/IGP?

#354 Anders

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:35 PM

What about people who are volunteer moderators? Should their reviews be subject to censure due to their close affiliation with PGI/IGP?

#355 Wales Grey

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:35 PM

View PostVanguard319, on 17 September 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

and the people giving 0 and spamming Squwak!squwak!squwak! are helpful?

Hi, please site one instance of a person giving a score of Zero and spamming squawk in their review, thanks in advance.

Oh wait, you were building a strawman.

Good to see that logic is still anathema to white knights.

View PostAnders, on 17 September 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

What about people who are volunteer moderators? Should their reviews be subject to censure due to their close affiliation with PGI/IGP?

No, because they are always correct about everything.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostLivewyr, on 17 September 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:


I'm not talking about the people are giving their one review.. you have a right to your opinion and sharing it on a review site..

You do NOT have a right to 4 opinions, or the opinions of Bryan Eckman, Sean Lang, or Russ Bullock.

Do you have any proof that people are reviewing multiple times?

#357 Wales Grey

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostLivewyr, on 17 September 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

You do NOT have a right to 4 opinions, or the opinions of Bryan Eckman, Sean Lang, or Russ Bullock.


Are you accusing minty here of spoofing the system? Perhaps you should report the reviews within metacritic rather than importing the drama?

View Postmint frog, on 17 September 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Do you have any proof that people are reviewing multiple times?

Proof: People are saying bad things about the thing I like! ;_;

#358 Nekki Basara

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:40 PM

View PostAnders, on 17 September 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

What about people who are volunteer moderators? Should their reviews be subject to censure due to their close affiliation with PGI/IGP?
Clearly those are fake posts made by people giving the game tens because that will negatively affect the metacritic score in the following way

#359 Silent

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:40 PM

Voted game a 1.

Moved on.

#360 Livewyr

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:42 PM

View PostNekki Basara, on 17 September 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

How do you feel about people posting and blatantly stating that they are going to falsely rate the game as 10 to balance out the low numbers? Do you think maybe they should be removed too so as to avoid an incorrect metacritic score and thus later cries of manipulation by PGI/IGP?


I think those should be culled as well.

View PostAnders, on 17 September 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

What about people who are volunteer moderators? Should their reviews be subject to censure due to their close affiliation with PGI/IGP?


They're not making money from PGI (as they're volunteers) so I personally don't think there is a true conflict of interest.

View PostWales Grey, on 17 September 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

Hi, please site one instance of a person giving a score of Zero and spamming squawk in their review, thanks in advance.

Oh wait, you were building a strawman.

Good to see that logic is still anathema to white knights.



And mint, find the obvious ones.. namely the ones that are called "MWO_MALICE" and then the ones spoofing SeanLang, BryanEckman, and RussBullock..

and then check out how many reviews they have..
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I'm no where near a white knight- I'm waiting to write my review until I'm in a neutral mood (probably tomorrow morning)

But seeing morons go out of their way to defame a game because they're pissy speaks to a lack of parenting and or chewing on their keyboards...

It's short sighted and is offensive to anyone with an I.Q. comprised of 3 digits.





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