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#161 Thorn Hallis

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 03:54 AM

View PostSruba4, on 14 December 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

They dont deserve even 1 cent, untill they make this game playable.


A lot of people seem to be able to play MWO, so maybe you should blame something or someone else if you can't play.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:04 AM

So basicly, to be a Clan MechWarrior you should be a Greedy, Rich and pay for every thing! Good Call PGI! Let the Gold Rush begins!
p.s. And i will buy all of them, just for fun

Edited by skb, 14 December 2013 - 04:05 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:12 AM

View PostGB Krubarax, on 14 December 2013 - 03:37 AM, said:

And I do not mean to sound like a ***** but... where is the Hellbringer? :D

Edit: NOOooooo! Where is the Mad Dog??? :wub: :excl: :excl:



Don't worry about that. They'll come in the "Clan Reinforcement Pack" (sold separately for just $100, thank you very much).


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I find it interesting that everybody acts like they are surprised?

-Everybody knew these packages would come
-Everybody knew clan mechs would be expensive


That's hardly the point.

If you read through the 100+ page feedback thread, you'll find that while people find the pricing insane, for most, it's not the main issue.

The main issue is that PGI are offering new toys for a very limited sandbox. A sandbox that is basically stuck in the late 1990s when it comes to gameplay. Instead of cranking out another set of shiny new Mechs to grab some more cash, how about addressing all the complaints about primitive, non-consequential gameplay?

How about adding stuff that has been promised since the beginning? Like DX11, VoIP, a bigger world to fight in, adding deeper meaning and consequences to matches and their outcomes? Oh, right.. you can't really charge any money for any of that stuff, can you? At least not as easily as you can for a pack of shiny new Über-Mechs.

What they are asking us to do is to dish out even more money for toys while they don't even tell us how these toys will fit into the game. As it is now, throwing in Clan-Tech would certainly break the game and would constitute a definite shift towards "pay to win". Just ask any TT-player about their opinion on Clans and their impact on balancing.

S.

Edited by 1Sascha, 14 December 2013 - 04:21 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:16 AM

View PostWill9761, on 13 December 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

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Well the price of the regular packages seems fair enough, and there's a lot of fan favorites in them, thought there's a few mechs I'd like to have seen in one of the packages. But did you see the pricetag on those gold mechs? $500 a piece, limited or not I doubt people are lining up to buy those.
I suspect there will be another package in the near future that contains more clan mechs, like the Saber package. I'm hoping for a Shadow Cat.
Anyway you don't need to play clan to get clan mechs, that would be ridiculous, besides it's not like IS military forces weren't stealing every bit of clantech they could during the invasion.

Edit: I'd very much like to get my hands on a Vulture too.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 14 December 2013 - 04:17 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:24 AM

HOLY STICKER SHOCK, BATCHRIST!!!!!!! :wub: :D

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:37 AM

My only complaint; Where's my F'n Mad Dog PGI?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I mean Come on! How can you NOT include that mech?!?!?!?! SRSLY?!?!?!?!

The only flippin clan mech I want, and god only knows when it will be seen in this game -.-

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:50 AM

I will give it a month or two, see if PGI reduces the price. Doubtfull. If it dosnt glad that my most favorite mech is the Sumoner.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:53 AM

View Postsbogo, on 13 December 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

-No MC bonus with packages
-cap at 90 premium time when it should go up to 180
-No forums avatar
-$240 level should have significant bonuses on top of the rest

$500 gold mechs are probably gonna have some sweet feature with them. Also they are limited in quantity and designed for a certain type of person, one who like to stand out and that reason only. Just because you don't have $500 to say "look at me, I had $500 dollars recently" doesn't mean they are stupid. PGI offers to those who want to show off. I have bought all the top packages and to be able to show off that I did played into my decision. I am not buying these as of right now because I don't know if I will play very much more but we'll see over the next few months.
-Gold Mechs should offered lifetime premium time, it would still limit to a few harcore players but give incentives for the bling investment.
Be wary of a mad cash grab and run leaving everyone with the sad memories of a game they thought they would once have. You received what you were legally obligated to receive per your purchases already, they have no other obligations. You think this would be the first game to grab and run you would be mistaken.


That right there.

While I don't think the prices are completely out of line given what we have seen so far from Phoenix and Founders packs, my first thought is there should be more incentive to get the higher priced packs. Maybe give us premium for a year if we grab the top pack. Add in some MC to sweeten the deal. Camo would be great. I'm thinking we will most likely see some loyalty rewards like they did with Phoenix packs.

I also saw a recommendation to split these up into two tiers which I definitely agree on. I don't see it happening though because the Timberwolf is clearly the most sought after 'mech and burying it in the top of the pack will get the largest return.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:22 AM

Pricing issues aside (and there are issues!) - PGI, could you have made this any more anti-climactic?

The lore gives you THE ULTIMATE OPPORTUNITY to create a bit of atmosphere and what do you make of it? Pre-orders without anything else. You have a long way to go. Here are a few ideas what you could have done:

Bits and pieces of (possibly conflicting) information, news reports, after action reports from worlds on the periphery in the form of tweets, youtube videos, news items on your webpage

Devs in Clan Mechs in random matches that just stand on a rock somewhere or walk around the map at the end of the match when noone can shoot them, but see them?

Anything that comes even close to something that actually makes people interested in what's happening would be an improvement and take away the constant "they are just after our money"-theme that is currently going on.

#170 WildeKarde

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:23 AM

Does anyone think they should have made four clan packs? Mixed up the mechs (1 of each weight) in them for maybe $120 - to get all the mechs you'd need to buy at least two packs anyway

#171 CyclonerM

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:30 AM

View PostKain, on 14 December 2013 - 03:52 AM, said:

-Everybody knew these packages would come
-Everybody knew clan mechs would be expensive



I thought they would be expensive in game but not that expensive for $$$.

View Postevil2, on 14 December 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

Pricing issues aside (and there are issues!) - PGI, could you have made this any more anti-climactic?

The lore gives you THE ULTIMATE OPPORTUNITY to create a bit of atmosphere and what do you make of it? Pre-orders without anything else. You have a long way to go. Here are a few ideas what you could have done:

Bits and pieces of (possibly conflicting) information, news reports, after action reports from worlds on the periphery in the form of tweets, youtube videos, news items on your webpage

Devs in Clan Mechs in random matches that just stand on a rock somewhere or walk around the map at the end of the match when noone can shoot them, but see them?

Anything that comes even close to something that actually makes people interested in what's happening would be an improvement and take away the constant "they are just after our money"-theme that is currently going on.


You are damn right. But they seems to have totally abandoned the lore or IGP pushed their schedule, either.

#172 Pawn Couch

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:38 AM

Damn expensive.
But ill buy it if they get an Aussie server.

#173 Jason1138

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:49 AM

View PostEd Steele, on 13 December 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Quit whining about the cost and wait for the C bill variants, UI 2.0 and CW may even be done by then.



lol, yes they "may".

View PostJake Hendricks, on 14 December 2013 - 05:23 AM, said:

Does anyone think they should have made four clan packs? Mixed up the mechs (1 of each weight) in them for maybe $120 - to get all the mechs you'd need to buy at least two packs anyway



the pack is specifically structured the way it is to take advantage of the enthusiasm for the mad cat. if you make 4 packs you can't force people to buy a ton of mechs they dont want to get a mad cat

its not an accident

#174 a little fluffy bunny

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:51 AM

Thoughts:

Insane pricing.

Oh look, more mechs. Yay?

Insane pricing.

Wait, what's that? Some worthless things to hang in my cockpit that obscure my view?

Insane pricing.

SIGN ME UP, I'M CRAZY TOO.

On second thoughts, no, I'm not that crazy. PGI should do a marketing drive on asylums though, seems like it's their target audience now.


Oh yeah, almost forgot - insane pricing.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:52 AM

Until the Game content catches up, I'm not spending another dime. The clan package prices are ridiculous and disappointing.
AND EVERY GOLD MECH IN GAME SHOUD BE IMMEDIATLY TARGETED!!!

Edited by CitizenDick, 14 December 2013 - 05:53 AM.


#176 Buzzkill72

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:02 AM

Looks Great PGI!..But I think Ill WAIT till UI 2.0 and CW comes out fully before making any more purcheses from you.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:04 AM

View PostPissybird, on 13 December 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

Why do I need to buy 3 different versions of an omni mechs? It's an omni mech, their whole point is being reconfigurable.


This...

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:05 AM

View PostBloodLegacy, on 13 December 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

I love the models and I want a Timberwolf SO BAD... but I'll be damned if Ill pay $210 for it.
I'm a Legendary Founder, and Overlord, but I'm done throwing good money after bad and the monetization for this game is awful.


Way to costly for my pallet, plus I an't working at the moment, also remember they will be coming in C-bills after the initial June release.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:05 AM

Laughed so hard that i had to bury my face on my bed when i saw the tag price at around 02.00 AM...especially those goldie mechs :D

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:09 AM

Somebody wants a Christmas bonus. This is pure greed on the pricing. I don't really care about driving clan mechs if there is no decent game to play them in.
Read my lips PGI no more cash from me until you put in territorial warfare.
Three money grabs and you haven't even released a decent game yet.





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