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#821 NoClass

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:52 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 16 May 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Exactly my thoughts, again, with the need for powerful erppc. The AC issue is slightly less of one, as clan LBX will be frontloaded and not burst, with solid and scatter shot modes. Hybrid AC and LBX.


I share your feelings about the auto cannons. In fact, I like that they will be different as opposed to better or worse. The burst mechanic will give a unique feel that is appreciated.

If it were me:

ER Lasers: Decrease the Beam duration and damage. Leave everything else alone. With this, you get weapons that feel different from the IS, perform different and aren't nerfed.

Pulse Lasers: Not sure TBH. I only used them when I first started playing.

Auto cannons: Noted Above

Gauss: Should be left alone as is. There's not really a way to change it with breaking something.

ERPPC: Should be left alone as is. Any less damage and it won't be worth running. Any more heat and it won't be worth running. It is balanced.

Edward,

I can't remember off hand what AltB looked like.

Edited by VigilanceHawkwind, 16 May 2014 - 09:57 AM.


#822 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 10:12 AM

How they handle the extended burn is of interest to me. If the Clan laser of a given type is, say, 10% more damaging, and they make the beam last 10% longer, I have no issue with that. Damage would be the same if you smeared an IS or Clan laser, and damage would be the same if you only held the beam on target for as long as an IS beam duration, but holding it on target longer would result in more damage.

#823 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 04:01 PM

VARIANTS ANNOUNCED. And holy GOD some of the S variants, too! B)

http://www.reddit.co...piranha/chou0cj

I actually feel the command chair area has released almost everything as to how they will work and function, please have a look there again. However I do have the Variant list at this point which I can share.[/color]

• Adder:
P
A
D

• Dire Wolf:
P
A
B

• Kit Fox:
P
D
S

• Nova:
P
B
S

• Stormcrow:
P
C
D

• Summoner: (NAILED it!)
P
B
D



• Timber Wolf:
P
C
S (Holy crap, really? Jump Capable TIMBY!)

• Warhawk:
P
A
B

The actual load outs will be shared on the web site very soon but Im sure you can look these up on Sarna and basically understand what your getting.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 22 May 2014 - 04:19 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:11 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 22 May 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

VARIANTS ANNOUNCED. And holy GOD some of the S variants, too! ;)

http://www.reddit.co...piranha/chou0cj

I actually feel the command chair area has released almost everything as to how they will work and function, please have a look there again. However I do have the Variant list at this point which I can share.[/color]

• Adder:
P
A
D

• Dire Wolf:
P
A
B

• Kit Fox:
P
D
S

• Nova:
P
B
S

• Stormcrow:
P
C
D

• Summoner: (NAILED it!)
P
B
D



• Timber Wolf:
P
C
S (Holy crap, really? Jump Capable TIMBY!)

• Warhawk:
P
A
B

The actual load outs will be shared on the web site very soon but Im sure you can look these up on Sarna and basically understand what your getting.



Awesome cause im buying the Timber Wolf and the storm crow a la carte, and storm crow D packs two LRM 20! Fast moving lrm boat is what i want

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:33 PM

yeah but no clan ECM, have fun with that

#826 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

View PostRuns With Scissors, on 23 May 2014 - 07:33 PM, said:

yeah but no clan ECM, have fun with that



No ECM full variant, perhaps. The option exists they will sell the Charlie Kit Fox arm pod. That is all we need for it.

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:46 PM

good point, if there's not enough differences between variants it would be better to just sell the unique "parts" Better than some IS mechs with only 1 hardpoint difference between them

Edited by Runs With Scissors, 23 May 2014 - 07:47 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 10:57 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 23 May 2014 - 07:35 PM, said:

No ECM full variant, perhaps. The option exists they will sell the Charlie Kit Fox arm pod. That is all we need for it.


The question is, when might we be able to purchase the elusive arm? I'd love to see it from day one but I'm not going to hold my breath. I imagine it will be a later addition, assuming we get the capability at all.

I do not know if anyone was seriously considering doing it but I love the thought of 'pure' or themed clan groups and lances. If nothing else I am sure there are a few dedicated souls who will lock away their IS Mechs and throw away the key.

Of all the possible reasons not to go 'full Clan' lack of ECM probably does not come very high on the list. However it is liable to be an annoyance for anyone brave/crazy enough to try.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:02 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 16 May 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Exactly my thoughts, again, with the need for powerful erppc. The AC issue is slightly less of one, as clan LBX will be frontloaded and not burst, with solid and scatter shot modes. Hybrid AC and LBX.

Actually that`s not a Hybrid per se, but just the way an LB-X is actually supposed to work. The MWO IS just has the scatter only on the LBX so as to give people a reason to still use the AC-10 :ph34r:

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:09 AM

View PostZerberus, on 24 May 2014 - 01:02 AM, said:

Actually that`s not a Hybrid per se, but just the way an LB-X is actually supposed to work. The MWO IS just has the scatter only on the LBX so as to give people a reason to still use the AC-10 :ph34r:


Well, yes, but I assume most people never realize this, so I framed it in MWO terms. Every time I made a suggestion thread on the subject last year, people seemed confused that LB-X is actually supposed to be both an Solid and Scatter weapon. XD

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:35 AM

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^When I first saw the clan mech pricing I had to convince myself to not buy it since I only really cared about the direwolf. When A la carte came out 55 was still too high for just one mech so I spent it on a car pass in forza and got 90 cars. Was more bang for the buck.

Will have hoarded 100 million c-bills for the Dire wolf variant when it's released to us plebs. When the mad dog does come out though I am buying it even if I don't agree with the pricing I like the mech too much.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 05:41 AM

All i know is this: It is getting real hard to log into MWO when I know all I have available to me are Inner Sphere mechs. :ph34r:

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

View PostFearNotDeath, on 24 May 2014 - 05:35 AM, said:

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^When I first saw the clan mech pricing I had to convince myself to not buy it since I only really cared about the direwolf. When A la carte came out 55 was still too high for just one mech so I spent it on a car pass in forza and got 90 cars. Was more bang for the buck.

Will have hoarded 100 million c-bills for the Dire wolf variant when it's released to us plebs. When the mad dog does come out though I am buying it even if I don't agree with the pricing I like the mech too much.

I felt that very same way when the Timber Wolf A La Carte came out. :)

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 08:52 AM

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Timby or Summoner? Discuss!

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 08:59 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 28 May 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

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Timby or Summoner? Discuss!

Thought I saw it use Jump Jets. So it COULD be a Summoner, or a Timber Wolf S. Wish I could see what it was packing.

Edit: Scratch all that, it is an Adder. :ph34r:

Edited by Nathan K, 28 May 2014 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:08 AM

I think it is interesting it has no HUD visible. Might they be doing something with the art assets of Clan mech's huds? Perhaps a different color scheme? (Blue perhaps? Please?)

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:59 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 24 May 2014 - 05:41 AM, said:

All i know is this: It is getting real hard to log into MWO when I know all I have available to me are Inner Sphere mechs. :ph34r:

Yeah. I really am not interested in MWO atm due to this. I want my Clan chassis... enough surat trash

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:41 AM

View PostCoffiNail, on 28 May 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

Yeah. I really am not interested in MWO atm due to this. I want my Clan chassis... enough surat trash

I am having the same problem, the IS mechs have not grown on me; Except my cataphract.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:29 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 28 May 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

I am having the same problem, the IS mechs have not grown on me; Except my cataphract.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:58 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 28 May 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

I think it is interesting it has no HUD visible. Might they be doing something with the art assets of Clan mech's huds? Perhaps a different color scheme? (Blue perhaps? Please?)


Think it is a Nova...not sure...





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