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[xMintaka]

Terciel1976, on 21 June 2014 - 04:05 AM, said:

JR7-F, HBK-4P and AS7-D-DC already owned, I take it.?

I picked up a CPLT-C4 and am trying to come up with a reason I need a second JR7-D.

Four Mlas and a couple of LRM5's is rather fun. Likewise running around with a NARC.

[Ovion]

Terciel1976, on 21 June 2014 - 04:05 AM, said:

JR7-F, HBK-4P and AS7-D-DC already owned, I take it.?

I picked up a CPLT-C4 and am trying to come up with a reason I need a second JR7-D.

Yupper, as in the sig

LCT-1E / 1M / 1V / 3M / 3S, COM-1B / 2D / 3A, SDR-5D / 5K© / 5V, FS9-E, JR7-F©, RVN-2X, KFX-Prime(I) / D / S, CDA-2A© / X-5, CN9-A©, HBK-4P, CPLT-A1 / C4 / K2, JM6-S, TDR-9S, AS7-D-DC / K

Only need:
JR7-D
JR7-K
HBK-4G
HBK-4SP
AS7-RS
Now

Edited by Ovion, 21 June 2014 - 04:34 AM.

[TercieI]

Lunatech, on 21 June 2014 - 04:20 AM, said:

Four Mlas and a couple of LRM5's is rather fun. Likewise running around with a NARC.

I've done the "Tinypult." NARC is better on the K don't you think? Might as well get the module slot.

[Satan n stuff]

Shar Wolf, on 20 June 2014 - 10:13 AM, said:

Fun thought - currently the AS7-K is only ~1.9m more than the cost of it's engine!

Fixed thanks to Torgun >.<

It is in fact cheaper than the total price of the equipment on it, it has 7.4 million worth of equipment, most of it useful to a large number of players for the low low price of 6.8 million. If you want that equipment and you don't need the atlas you can sell it later for a massive discount.

[Ovion]

Yeah, if I have time after I'll grind for a couple of extra frames for the engines + stuff at a discount.

[Unnatural Growth]

I can't explain why, but for some reason I bought the Atlai- DDC, D and K. I've never even piloted an Atlas, other than maybe one of the trial Atlai. I have mastered Stalkers and Highlanders though. And I do like 'phracts, so the low arms weapon hardpoints are something I can deal with. I'm not even sure what I'll do with these, other than unlock the DDC, and install an ECM of course. Obviously (to me) the XL needs to come out of the K, and all 3 need DHS's, but other than that, I may just run them mostly stock? May swap out the AC20 on the DDC for 2xAC5's?

I've taken a break from the game, and haven't played in a couple months, may have to revisit weapons again due to all the nerfing while I was gone. It took 7 game patches to bring me up to current patch. Lol.

And it may end up being the Atlai are obsolete now with all the Clan mechs running around?

[Ovion]

You don't really buy the K to use it as is - you buy it to strip and provide parts to other mechs that need it, then put a STD300 in there and go to town.

[Takashi Uchida]

Hm, so right now I'm sitting on 8.5 million cbills. Before the sale ends I might just have enough to buy a DDC and another Atlas. Though, I'm not too certain I'll be able to do so. I'm not even sure if I'll be any good at piloting an Atlas (I've only played with crappy trial ones). For reference, I've struggled with Stalker brawlers. I know Atlases are more "twisty" but I've never been a great slow-assault-brawler pilot, with this being exacerbated by the presence of clan tech.

On the other hand, I def have enough to buy 3 Jenners and will prob be able to fit them with DHS and endo. I'm pretty good in my Firestarter and now that SRMs are working again and low wait times for lights, it might be fun to work on the Jenners. I've also got enough MC to get an Oxide, which would save me some cbills.

Then again, I kinda wanna buy back the HBP-4SP, one of my first mechs which I ditched early on. Might be pretty good with SRMs now (also low medium wait times), and I also wouldn't have to bother with skills because I think it's already elited. I have similar feelings towards the Catapult-A1, which I also ditched in the past in similar frustration.

The Atlas K has a 300 XL but seems to be the least functional variant. I already have a 300 XL but you can never have too many of those! Perhaps I will settle on a DDC (to be put away for later) and a couple Jenners?

But I just told myself last week that I would have to start saving my cbills for when clans finally become available for them . I swear, my thought processes in how I'm spending my comstar bills do not reflect my fiscal responsibility in real life.

[Koniks]

Takashi Uchida, on 21 June 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

Mech decisions

SInce you've already got the FS9, get the Atlas or save for the Clan mechs. You'll need 6-8m per for the lights, probably. 8-10m for each medium. 10-13 for each heavy. And probably 14-18m for each assault. Before factoring in weapons and additional pods.

Edited by Mizeur, 21 June 2014 - 10:16 PM.

[Ovion]

Takashi Uchida, on 21 June 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

Hm, so right now I'm sitting on 8.5 million cbills. Before the sale ends I might just have enough to buy a DDC and another Atlas. Though, I'm not too certain I'll be able to do so. I'm not even sure if I'll be any good at piloting an Atlas (I've only played with crappy trial ones). For reference, I've struggled with Stalker brawlers. I know Atlases are more "twisty" but I've never been a great slow-assault-brawler pilot, with this being exacerbated by the presence of clan tech.

On the other hand, I def have enough to buy 3 Jenners and will prob be able to fit them with DHS and endo. I'm pretty good in my Firestarter and now that SRMs are working again and low wait times for lights, it might be fun to work on the Jenners. I've also got enough MC to get an Oxide, which would save me some cbills.

Then again, I kinda wanna buy back the HBP-4SP, one of my first mechs which I ditched early on. Might be pretty good with SRMs now (also low medium wait times), and I also wouldn't have to bother with skills because I think it's already elited. I have similar feelings towards the Catapult-A1, which I also ditched in the past in similar frustration.

The Atlas K has a 300 XL but seems to be the least functional variant. I already have a 300 XL but you can never have too many of those! Perhaps I will settle on a DDC (to be put away for later) and a couple Jenners?

But I just told myself last week that I would have to start saving my cbills for when clans finally become available for them . I swear, my thought processes in how I'm spending my comstar bills do not reflect my fiscal responsibility in real life.

I've just slammed out 2 Atlas', am almost at a Hunchback, and going to be getting another Hunchback and 2 Jenners.

It's just too good a deal to pass up.
Then it's getting some XLs for my Locusts.

You have till august to save for the Kit Fox (which is fantastic btw).
End of August for a Nova, and September through November for the rest, and then they're all available from that point onwards anyway.
So plenty of time to save C-Bills, Atlas' may only be on C-Bill sale this once!

[Takashi Uchida]

I have a question: for those of you who have elited or mastered Atlases, are there any variants that get some burn other than the DDC or do they all ride the pine (or get sold)?

Sittin on 12.5 million cbills right now, here's my crazy plan: I have XP on the RS because of the trial mech (I don't currently own it). If I dedicate tomorrow evening to playing it, I can probably have enough to get the basics out of the way before the sale ends Wednesday morning. I can go ahead and buy the mech, get the basic skills immediately, and sell it. I don't need to elite this mech to unlock the DDC master slot because I already have several Assault mechs elited. This will result in 2 million cbills of savings due to not having to buy DHS and endo to actually make it functional.

Before selling I will then have about 7.8 million cbills. The combined price of the the DDC and D on sale is a little over 10 million.The resale value of an Atlas is around 2-3 million (should be so even with the sale, can someone check for me? thx), so I can sell my RS for some extra dough. I may come up slightly short for 10 million but I will probably make that cash difference through grinding the trial.

A(t)las, I will still have to spend 5 million eventually on upgrades for the D and DDC (or maybe only 4 million if I opt to just basic out the D without endo). And if I don't end up using the the D-variant much, I can sell that too and at least recoup another 2-3 million.

The end result: a mastered DDC done on a budget of just under 16 million cbills.

Is this a plan or what?

[edit: On the RS trial, I may have underestimated how painful it is to pilot this thing. It's like a giant robot prostrate exam.]

Edited by Takashi Uchida, 24 June 2014 - 12:27 AM.

[TercieI]

Terciel1976, on 24 June 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

Solid plan. My philosophy on Atlai is "D-DC or don't bother."

IMO, the D-DC is far and away the best variant. It has the best hardpoints, even excluding the ECM (especially in these Buckton days). So, yeah. You won't be missing any really useful capabilities if you go that way.

Solid plan. My philosophy on Atlai is "D-DC or don't bother."

IMO, the D-DC is far and away the best variant. It has the best hardpoints, even excluding the ECM (especially in these Buckton days). So, yeah. You won't be missing any really useful capabilities if you go that way.

Edit: I agree about the RS(C). Even upgraded I hated that model. The D was alright but the RS was just a horrible experience.

Edited by Terciel1976, 24 June 2014 - 04:10 AM.

[Itsalrightwithme]

When and if Pulse Lasers become good again, the RS will be the beast it used to be.

The key strength of the Atlas, beyond its 100ton weight, is its broad arms that are very good for spreading damage IF you torso-twist well. With longer-duration lasers this advantage is diminished. That's why the best D-DC brawler pilots use AC20+SRM+MLas, and they use the MLas only to follow up on damage or exploit crit hits.

The D is in a tough spot given that its loadout is very similar with the D-DC, and other than extra ballistic slots that most use only for MGs, it has no advantage. The K is just bad. It has two AMS but otherwise unremarkable.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Takashi Uchida, on 23 June 2014 - 11:14 PM, said:

I have a question: for those of you who have elited or mastered Atlases, are there any variants that get some burn other than the DDC or do they all ride the pine (or get sold)?

I still pull out my -D and BH every now and then.
(the BH rarely though as it has past the Master skill and other chassis need the XP more)

Just bought the -K(?) for it's spare parts during the sale, and I plan on using it some as well (Dual AMS hoooo!)

On the whole though - each chassis has it's limitations, and there are things each one does that the others do not (even the DDC - it gets tricky to use all 3M while maintaining the ECM), so it would depend on how much you, personally, enjoyed those variants.

[Takashi Uchida]

Well I did it.. the RS is basic'd and kicked out.

Got my DDC annnnnnd I'm terrible in it lol.

[Pekiti]

Define terrible? What's your build? If you just die a lot, it's maybe not you, it's the DDC tag on your mech that encourages everyone to gun for you. If you feel like you're not doing enough damage/contributing, maybe it's your build.

If however, you spawn in with your DDC and then sit in the base shouting orders at your team ('useless noob losers')...well then, yeah, its you man.

[Ovion]

I think I did pretty well out of that sale:

[Koniks]

Takashi Uchida, on 24 June 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

Well I did it.. the RS is basic'd and kicked out.

Got my DDC annnnnnd I'm terrible in it lol.

I am partial to 2xUAC5, 2xML, 3xSRM6+A.

[Itsalrightwithme]

Mizeur, on 25 June 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

I am partial to 2xUAC5, 2xML, 3xSRM6+A.

The AC20 build is better for killing, the 2xuAC5 build is better for stripping armor. The former is better if you know to torso-twist.

[Koniving]

LRM-20 + twin Streak + large pulse lasers + LB-10 and AC/5 combination with ECM.

Soften targets at range. Low heat anti-light ability. Good firepower. AC/5 is good for nasty screenshake when combined with LB-10, and LB-10 will rapidly fry enemy weapons at close range. Tested using my Atlas D and works very well against other Atlases, Banshees, Victors, lights, mediums, heavies.

Going to test it soon against Clanners but waiting til I get my own D-DC. I didn't get enough funds during the cbill sale. Clan customization is FAR more expensive than IS customizations.