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[Noesis]

"The Silk"

The Silk represents the Dark Born Militant arm structure and organisation. And it is no surprise that this follows to some extent an equivalence with the Military structure of the Clans since a predominance of the members have had previous training within the Clan culture themselves.

Due to the more mercantile and nomadic nature of the Dark born however there is less honour than would be expected with the application of a command structure. This is reflected in their denial to the use of some of the Trials that the regular clans use and are replaced also to some extent with their own verisions as applicable (But those details are for another day).

So perhaps useful to know for some that there is perhaps still some "honour amongst thieves"?

Edited by Noesis, 06 April 2014 - 11:20 PM.

[Noesis]

[xxREVxx]

Noesis, on 06 April 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

"The Silk"

The Silk represents the Dark Born Militant arm structure and organisation. And it is no surprise that this follows to some extent an equivalence with the Military structure of the Clans since a predominance of the members have had previous training within the Clan culture themselves.

Due to the more mercantile and nomadic nature of the Dark born however there is less honour than would be expected with the application of a command structure. This is reflected in their denial to the use of some of the Trials that the regular clans use and are replaced also to some extent with their own verisions as applicable (But those details are for another day).

So perhaps useful to know for some that there is perhaps still some "honour amongst thieves"?

[Noesis]

Reverend Poison, on 09 April 2014 - 08:17 AM, said:

[Noesis]

Some News:

The Dark Born have now developed a forum tool that can be used to compare a mech build against various role definitions to see if it qualifies for appropriate use in organised team play. It also incorporates the weighting of weapons as appropriate to the role to help pilots best configure weapon use alongside the other characteristics to ensure the Mech will perform as optimal as required for the role. (It is similar to a tool already developed by The Templars)

The standards then allowing confidence and uniformity for organised team play or understanding Mech builds types without having to go into discussion or individual dialouge with every player prior to a drop. And a player can then attempt to configure and use various platforms with the knowledge of whether this applies to using it in a certain role.

The conventions and qualities are all undergoing testing to fine tune and also add in additional information and data that might be useful to piloting mech within role definitions.

Note however that although it may be beneficial for a pilot to use such a tool it is only acting as a guide to influence builds to operate in a certain way. And since some of the roles are more specialised in performance, consideration as to how best to apply them in conjuction with other roles for best applied tactics in a team setting has to be exercised. Though a solo player could use the tool for pug drops or more casual play with others if they prefer to pilot a mech in the manner of one of the role definitions (And tbh some of the roles can be readily applied in this way). However, the idea of standards and roles only really intended to help co-ordinate team interplay and not restrict pilot choice for casual pug play as they prefer.




Various revisions likley to be applied in the future with use as relevant to the Dark Born, but thought other pilots might find this approach (as a concept) of interest to them.

[_Comrade_]

I like the fact that they are chosen to play an outcast, their just aren't enough evil space pirate units on MWO at the moment

[Noesis]

[Noesis]

For interest purposes here is the Dark Born method of applying the Zellbrigen equivalent of a Trial of Position for some ranks. The Trial of Blooding still relevant to new Rogue pilots.

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Promotion and demotion can occur at any time by a more senior commanding officer of Rogue Captain and above. This is the normal empowerment for the chain of command in the Dark Born. But best discretion is advised to treating this responsibility well as if too much chaos is created by any officer they could well find themselves out of a position of responsibility as a result.

Please note do not promote an Assassin or other outside member of the community to the rank of Rogue unless they have completed a Trial of Blooding or you have been given authority from an Executive Command member. (Master or above, Weaver, Purser or Governer).

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A Trial of Estimation then is akin to the Trial of Position in Clan soceity to obtain promotions to relevant positions. Except that in the Dark Born it is a trial amongst peers as a last person standing with the ability to have a term of "negociation" amongst the candidates and the position holder being challenged prior to the combat trial itself.

This is only relevant if challenging the following positions: Rogue Captain, Dark Rouge and Master (akin to Star Captain, Star Colonel and Galaxy Commander). The more senior positions appointed by the authority of more senior members as part of an Executive responsibility. A trial of Estimation occurs on the first Saturday of each month in the calender and the trial must be announced 2 weeks in advance of this date for it to be held. For the purposes of dates UTC will be used as a reference point.

So for example if a Dire Rogue (akin to a clan Star Commander) wishes to challenge a Rogue Captain the candidates then included within the trial process would be themselves, the Rogue Captain and any other Dire Rogues in the same part of the command tree under the Rogue Captain they are challenging. All of these members must be present for this trial to be valid on the trial day.

This group of candidates then have a period of time to "negocate" (in secret as prefered) with each of the other candidates. The idea being that to hold a significant rank you have to hold good standing or authority with your subordinates and have good piloting skills to remain in that position. The negociation period prior to the trial then an intentional and ideal time where "influence" and "cunning" can make arrangements to fix the results or gain support against certain parties in the combat trial.

This trial has to be validated to go ahead by the challenged positions immediate senior officer. Though "negotiations" can commence amongst the combatants prior to any validation as soon as a notice of a challenge is issued. And for the trial itself the Position Holder determines the Class of Mech to be used. This has to be done at least a week before the trial or else candidates can choose which class at their own discretion.

At any time the challenger can declare themselves invalid to stop that challange from going ahead.

The Weaver, Purser or Governer have to be present to stipulate any equal conditions for the trial, to declare the area to fight in and to record the events of the trial.

The particpants face off in a cross formation in any order a distance apart with their backs facing each other in powered down mechs and then given the order to start the combat. The last man standing from the ensuing combat is then the declared Victor of the trial and as a result can then elect to keep the remaining position holder in command or to take the position for themselves.

Any decision of invalid trial or insufficient notice will mean that a similar challenge for that position can not occur until the next month is valid for it to be issued. In the case of a challenger declaring themselves invalid they then cannot issue another similar challenge for at least 3 months.

Trials of Estimation must be declared in the Trials forum as a means for the official proceeding to be recognised. "Negociation" details between the candidates do not have to be public but can be posted in the trial challenge thread if any candidate so wishes.

[Edward Mattlov]

Although I abhor those who shun Kerensky's vision, I am impressed by the amount of work that you have put into the creation of your unit, it will only be slightly less of an honor to destroy you as opposed to destroying an Inner Sphere freeborn.

[Noesis]

Thanks Ed.

Just looking for a number of Brave pilots now to bolster numbers so I can at least offer training opportunities for your sibko ranks. It is after all a responsibility from Lore.

Early days however for this unique style of game play and I have more in the development to improve the tools and talents of any Members who wish to join.

The idea of having a journey with pilots who want to help shape and lead elements of this unit then at the forefront of what is needed in my current mindset. But I'm in it for the long haul and am hoping when Clans will become more to the forefront of MWO players thoughts this might be a more considered option for a number of pilots. But I will still be actively recruiting pilots in the meantime. I guess always hard to start out.

[Noesis]

[NocturnalBeast]

Hello, I am a former merc / Steiner / Marik with a Clan heritage. You have created an impressive unit that seems to be as conflicted as myself. I have applied on your forum.

[Noesis]

Ed Steele, on 13 April 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

Hello, I am a former merc / Steiner / Marik with a Clan heritage. You have created an impressive unit that seems to be as conflicted as myself. I have applied on your forum.

Application processed Ed, and thanks for showing the courage to join the Dark Born at these early stages. Please take the time to read up on ideas on the forum and hope to discuss aspirations and get to know you asap.

[NocturnalBeast]

Noesis, on 13 April 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:

Application processed Ed, and thanks for showing the courage to join the Dark Born at these early stages. Please take the time to read up on ideas on the forum and hope to discuss aspirations and get to know you asap.

Thank You!

Anyone who is conflicted about whether to join an IS unit, or the Clans and who does not agree with the idealistic nature of the Wolf's Dragoons, should check us out! http://mwodarkborn.enjin.com/home

[CyclonerM]

Ed Steele, on 13 April 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

Anyone who is conflicted about whether to join an IS unit, or the Clans and who does not agree with the idealistic nature of the Wolf's Dragoons, should check us out! http://mwodarkborn.enjin.com/home

TBH, only Marack Drock could be so undecided

[NocturnalBeast]

CyclonerM, on 14 April 2014 - 04:37 AM, said:

TBH, only Marack Drock could be so undecided

Maybe I had not yet found a unit that suits me lore-wise as the descendant of a Clan Coyote outcast who was raised in the Inner-Sphere? Rather than continue to be a part of one great house, or restricting myself to true clanner's rigid laws, I will be a part of a unit which allows me to be both, yet neither at the same time. Noesis has put a great deal of work into creating this unit from scratch, and I admire his vision. Also, don't speak to me about conflicted, with your Marik faction symbol and Clan Wolf signature! :-)

[CyclonerM]

Ed Steele, on 14 April 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Also, don't speak to me about conflicted, with your Marik faction symbol and Clan Wolf signature! :-)

Eheh it is temporary. Anyway, yes i am a bit conflicted myself in some ways, i was born on the Free Worlds League world of Oriente and somehow ended up in Clan Wolf

[Noesis]

[NocturnalBeast]

Noesis, on 14 April 2014 - 09:52 AM, said:

Ooh, pretty! After I recover the Timber Wolf which my father had smuggled out of clan space, I may try to locate and recover my mother's Stormcrow.

Also, I like the blue highlights, I may have to add some to my camo. :-)

Edited by Ed Steele, 14 April 2014 - 10:21 AM.

[NocturnalBeast]

CyclonerM, on 14 April 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Eheh it is temporary. Anyway, yes i am a bit conflicted myself in some ways, i was born on the Free Worlds League world of Oriente and somehow ended up in Clan Wolf

Maybe you would do well to find your way into the Dark Born as well? It is rumored that the Dark Born occasionally visit the Free Worlds league to sell clan tech to the Word of Blake (who pay very well from what I hear).