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#321 Ngamok

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:44 AM

View PostSmudge504, on 25 April 2014 - 03:59 AM, said:

i agree that this game needs cash injections to survive and yes PGI is a business and they have to make money... but $500 for a gold skin is crazy! if it was $50 MAYBE $75 above the price of the masakari package then it would be tempting but an additional $250 is like a smack in the face.


Why? Please tell me why charging $260 for a gold skin is a smack in the face. IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE. It's basically for people to throw in some money to further support PGI, NOTHING ELSE. Did you really want that gold skin and are now pissed off because it's out of your reach? Get over it.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:47 AM

View Postchaas, on 25 April 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

Seeing a lot of "I don't play or buy the product anymore, but here's some criticism" posts. To those making those posts, you've got no leg to stand on. Let the people qualified to critique do so; that would be the active players, not you.

I still intend to knock off those silly looking hunches with a few well-placed volleys and then stand triumphantly on the first Mad Cat I see, dancing a jig all over its neutered face. The skin doesn't matter to me.


Some of us do still play and might even still participate in the micro transactions.

Some of us no longer buy content not yet in the game at extreme prices with the idea that we are "donating" to the future development of the game based purely on faith. If we provide a little detail around why, and it's constructive then that feedback and contribution to the discussion as a whole is magnitudes more beneficial than snarky remarks directed at folks who don't share your opinions.

#323 Prezimonto

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:49 AM

This ploy reminds me of infomercials everywhere and/or the QVC channel.

If that done something as clever as this:


I might have at least laughed.

That would require PGI to make fun of their own marketing campaign though.

#324 Shylok

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:51 AM

View Postluigi256, on 25 April 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

That right there is a 1,000 dollar screenshot. Just sayin


$1500, look to the left of the lead Timber Wolf back in the shadows.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:51 AM

This whole thread screams whalebait. I don't recall seeing any indication of these packages being limited by quantity, which leads me to think this is just a cheap attempt at making your shiny gold pixels seem even more valuable and rare. Seriously, it's not the balance, it's not the delays, nor the design decisions, but the outright ugly pricing scheme that predates on MW fans that gets to me. I'm never gonna buy any mechs even though I enjoy this game, because I simply don't see value for money in anything other than more mechbays.

#326 Mofwangana Bogogono

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:52 AM

That's not gold. It's yellow.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:54 AM

Even if I didn't have what to do with my money (which is not the case unfortunately) I would rather send them to build wells in Africa or burn them before giving it to people who repeatedly failed to deliver.

Vote with your wallets!

Edited by Zerwikaptur, 25 April 2014 - 08:54 AM.


#328 Ngamok

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:57 AM

View Postcrossflip, on 25 April 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

This whole thread screams whalebait. I don't recall seeing any indication of these packages being limited by quantity, which leads me to think this is just a cheap attempt at making your shiny gold pixels seem even more valuable and rare. Seriously, it's not the balance, it's not the delays, nor the design decisions, but the outright ugly pricing scheme that predates on MW fans that gets to me. I'm never gonna buy any mechs even though I enjoy this game, because I simply don't see value for money in anything other than more mechbays.


What? It's been on the clan page since forever. This is why we can't have nice things because people can't and don't read and then put their own interpretation on it. Look:

[color=rgba(255, 193, 38, 1)]
Become a Gold Khan member.
Own the most exclusive.[/color]
  • Extremely Rare
  • Limited Edition
  • Gold Skinned Clan Mech
Available only to the most ambitious of Kerensky's followers, the Khan Collections provide pilots participating in Operation Revival with the most exclusive and treasured of Clan Technologies.

#329 p8ragon

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:59 AM

View PostKyynele, on 25 April 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:


So, it's commendable to support the game when you get loads of ingame stuff for your money, but if you dish out over twice more than the others for practically nothing extra but a "I paid a lot"-sign, it's something to ridicule instead? >_>

Logically, I'd expect that to be even more commendable, that's basically donating money to fund the development of the game. The only reason I can see for any sort of negative feelings about this is if you're butthurt that something superficial is priced out of your reach. And isn't that just petty?


Goodwill. Whatever actions a company takes is based upon their standing with the company. For instance, take another free to play game (Christ I really don't want to mention star citizen because that's been beaten to death)...but let's take Valve for instance. Valve has a lot of goodwill with the community. So, that gives them a lot of leeway when releasing products/etc. Take a hated company, say EA. Every time EA releases a new game, no matter how good it may be, will get a lot of vitriol from players simply because they're EA, and because they don't have that goodwill from the community.

Now PGI has finally realized that they have lost a lot of the Community's good will. We see them trying to regain it through release of free content to players (aka the centurion and thunderbolt), which is good. Unfortunately, they've already established, through their pricing (and i don't care if YOU think this is fair or not...i'm talking about the average player) of the clan packages, a la carte purchases, and now gold mechs, that they are willing to sacrifice goodwill for more capital. All of these all represent a VERY POOR value to the average consumer, and that the pricing appeals DIRECTLY to fans of battletech.

We know that there are minimal production costs associated with these mechs (no materials cost, etc), and that once PGI has paid the coders/art people to develop these mechs, they're essentially done with costs. In light of this, and knowing both how passionate the fan base is, and how easy that makes exploiting them for additional profit is, PGI priced the clans in a way that would garner what they believed would be maximum profit. Unfortunately, there is so much more to profit than simple numbers. Goodwill cannot be directly measured, but it has such a huge effect on the health of the game. I used to support this game, and had PGI had more goodwill in my mind, I would have never voiced my opinion, given the abhorrent costs of both the clan packages, and a la carte.

tl;dr sure if saying that I'm 'butthurt' makes you feel better about yourself, by all means go ahead. I'm just letting you know why there's so much negativity and ridicule surrounding these packages, and the game in general.

Edit: Grammar

Edited by p8ragon, 25 April 2014 - 09:01 AM.


#330 Ngamok

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:59 AM

View PostZerwikaptur, on 25 April 2014 - 08:54 AM, said:

Even if I didn't have what to do with my money (which is not the case unfortunately) I would rather send them to build wells in Africa or burn them before giving it to people who repeatedly failed to deliver.

Vote with your wallets!


Exactly. If you do not like the price, don't buy or do something else with your money.

But the rest of you, don't trash people because they did buy. It's their money.

#331 Tannhauser Gate

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:01 AM

Is that a gold Summoner at the very top in the center?

#332 crossflip

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:01 AM

View PostNgamok, on 25 April 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:


What? It's been on the clan page since forever. This is why we can't have nice things because people can't and don't read and then put their own interpretation on it. Look:

[color=rgba(255, 193, 38, 1)]
Become a Gold Khan member.
Own the most exclusive.[/color]
  • Extremely Rare
  • Limited Edition
  • Gold Skinned Clan Mech
Available only to the most ambitious of Kerensky's followers, the Khan Collections provide pilots participating in Operation Revival with the most exclusive and treasured of Clan Technologies.


Never actually says limited in number, in almost every premium f2p package I've seen it refers to time and not quantity when it says limited edition

#333 DirePhoenix

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:02 AM

View PostNgamok, on 25 April 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

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Indeed. I have no qualms about letting people pay $500, $1000, $100000, or even $1000000000 to pay for a cosmetic status item if they want to. I can think of many better things to spend my money on, but if someone else wants to pay that much for a special skin/paintjob/goldplating that has no effect other than how it looks... I say LET THEM HAVE THEIR PAINTJOB.

#334 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:03 AM

I for one am glad they are selling so well and that they are almost sold out. Putting money in PGIs pocket is the only way to move forward.

I know a lot of you think there has been way too much carrot an not enough stick. Unfortunately PGI is all we have and as slow as their development process is, and as mind boggling their design decisions, it is still better than nothing, which is what we had for the last 13 years.

#335 Ngamok

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:05 AM

View Postcrossflip, on 25 April 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Never actually says limited in number, in almost every premium f2p package I've seen it refers to time and not quantity when it says limited edition


What does Extremely Rare / Limited Edition mean? When you buy artwork that is a limited edition it's xxx/xxx and numbered on the print. When you buy limited collector edition games, they are limited in units. Look up any game that sells those and you'll see they are indeed limited.

Edit: The Hero Hunchback Grid Iron had a Limited Edition that was limited by time, yes. But it also stated it on the page. It stated Limited Time Only.

Edit 2: http://en.wikipedia....Special_edition

Edited by Ngamok, 25 April 2014 - 09:13 AM.


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:05 AM

View PostLakeDaemon, on 25 April 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Is that a gold Summoner at the very top in the center?


It's a Dragon, actually, but it does look like it's wearing gold too.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:06 AM

Reading this thread I once again think how bad (corrupted) this community is. Yes it's mostly pgi's fault but still...

It always reminds me this
Spoiler


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:07 AM

View PostDirePhoenix, on 25 April 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:


It's a Dragon, actually, but it does look like it's wearing gold too.


heresy

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

I would pay the money if I got the ability to crouch and do damage with collision. DFA for the WIN!

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 09:17 AM

So that's what a gold Mech looks like. Nothing but paint that cannot be told apart from other painted Mechs.

I see the gold Mechs can be found by the docks in the Crimson Strait district. Good to know, me and my mafia crew have been wondering where to pull off the heist acquire our supply to sell to our paying customers.

Welcome to Crimson Strait, the high crime map where every battle between CSI Crimson vs the 'bad guys' happens. Cue Horatio Caine.....





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