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[Julian Langsdorf III]

I know in part, my self-justification for buying the Legendary Founders pack was to help a cause. I'm a big Battletech fan, I want to see this do well, I want to see the company making it, invest in it in the long run and keep making it better and provide ample support and improvements for a very long time. For that to happen it needs to be profitable, the spread sheets need to show that it can be profitable. Its business. Would support or further development of Mechwarrior Online drop if nobody bought the Founder Packs this summer? I dunno, but I'd truly be sad if that happened.

Some people invest in art galleries, I invest in this. We all have our priorities.

And yes, getting 4 mechs right out of the gate and all that other stuff is nice too. I know I will have a nice diverse stable of mechs to play with from the get-go.

[Tterrag]

Lets be honest it worked as a money grab and i'm ok with that

[Tano]

F2P games are Free to Play, not free to run. Money has to be made. In beta, in open beta, and then live.

Money has to be made.

[silentD11]

Tterrag, on 20 June 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

Lets be honest it worked as a money grab and i'm ok with that

It's a capital injection, they need money to work on it. There have been countless games over the years I'd have paid good money to a company to develop and get my product later. There still are games I'd pay far more than 120 to help fund.

[Besh]

Literally everything has been said...which is sad, I was getting ready to elaborate and shine on a few points...:/.

Still, from my perspective: Im not a huge Fan or enthusiast of BT/MW...not at all. Stumbled across this game a few weeks ago cos someone on a Board mentioned it. Liked what I saw, read. Want to play this game. want to support the company in developing it further, get and keep it running. So I give them money. End of story. Simple eh?

[Dagger6T6]

Is it a money grab? I never once thought that as I was making my multiple attempts to pay $120.

What I was thinking is that hey why choose one mech when I can have 4. Then I also thought wow what a great opportunity to support a great game franchise that I have loved before some of the posters on this board were probably even born. The proof will be in the pudding of course, but I didn't just blindly hand over my cash... I've been following this reboot of the game since that Smith and Tinker trailer popped up.

I don't have anymore details than anyone else here, but I get the impression the PGI is serious about bringing a quality game to market that stays true to the roots of what made Battletech/Mechwarrior the long standing franchise it is. That should evident by the amount of people forking out cash at whatever level they can afford. Yes we are taking a gamble, but PGI is also taking a gamble to revive a franchise that was dead/murdered. So my money is in good faith that they are on the ball with this project... if they are then we will all be the better for it... if they are not then obviously that will be reflected in the amount of people that choose to remaing subscribers

I understand not everyone has cash to shell out on a whim, but alot of us grew up with Battletech and now we have mortgage payments, car payments, and all sorts of misc bills, so in the grand scheme $120 is not the end of the world for something that we have cared about for so long. Does that make us fanboys? maybe... do we care? no, because at the end of the day when our pew pew robots are tearing through the country side, nobody is going to be thinking of my post on this forum or any post on this forum.

Edited by Dagger6T6, 20 June 2012 - 07:18 AM.

[Barranoid]

I'm sure someone mentioned it before but I really don't get why people keep complaining about a completely optional founders pack, they don't actually HAVE to buy to play the game.

What the hell is wrong with you guys (OP)? It's like you got a new shiny car for free and then start to yell at the ppl. who gave you that car, that their company is trying to rip you off because they offer you the oppurtunity to buy some additional bling bling.

[Nemesiis]

Honestly you have the right to be apprehensive about spending money on a game you have not played. Keep in mind they are not making you spend your money. Those of us who have faith and want to see this product finished, will spend money. You do not have to buy a founders pack, nor will you have to spend a dime to play this game when it is live. They have been working on this game awhile, and they have bills to pay while creating it, although they are not receiving any income from their project. Was this a money grab? I guess that is in the eye of the beholder.

[silentD11]

Dagger6T6, on 20 June 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

Is it a money grab? I never once thought that as I was making my multiple attempts to pay $120.

I understand not everyone has cash to shell out on a whim, but alot of us grew up with Battletech and now we have mortgage payments, car payments, and all sorts of misc bills, so in the grand scheme $120 is not the end of the world for something that we have cared about for so long. Does that make us fanboys? maybe... do we care? no, because at the end of the day when our pew pew robots are tearing through the country side, nobody is going to be thinking of my post on this forum or any post on this forum.

Yeah I think age has a lot to do with it. For those of us that grew up playing these games we are in our 30s. When it comes to your monthly bills 120 bucks or so isn't anything, especially for something you had so much fun with as a kid. I mean out of all the hobbies I have 120 bucks doesn't really even rate. Compared to rent, transportation, food, medical bills, it's just a drop in the bucket.

[Tremor]

The OP will not be missed.

Edit: Whatever the logic is behind refusing to play a F2P game because you CAN pay money for no real combat advantage is going to give me an anurism if I try to understand it.

Edited by Tremor, 20 June 2012 - 07:26 AM.

[Jason Phoenix]

Just to explain something to the Yongsters that still have no clue about Life, the Trend nowadays in the Gaming industry is to USE a Brand and MILK it to death by creating a HYPE using fan's NEED for a PC Game.

Still dont understand plain English ? ok, let me dumb it down for you...;
EA decide to buy a Gaming Comany X. Gaming Company X plan on making an MMO in the SW Universe. They call it Star Wars: The Old Republic. Comany X has great ideas about their game but EA decide to push SW:TOR to hit the shelf 5 years in advance, even tho their Beta Testers tell them they need to fix 1 Million Issues...

On Day 1 of Release, Company X choose to send all their Curtomers Representative in Vacation for Xmas so that no one would cancel their Monthly Subscription before they actually talk to a CS Rep, postponing the inevitable to a later date. Hundreds of Thousands of Gamers/Fans got RIPPED off by Company X/EA and a couple Thousands Dumbsters just keep on paying to encourage them into keeping up their good work /cough...

In the Gaming Industry nowadays, Leap of Faith = Our Product does not meet your expectation so, give us your Money now and let us Screw you over later...

Thas what Milking a Brand is, trading Long Term Success for Short Term Monatery gain. There is NO EXCEPTIONS. This is a Trend in the Gaming Industry. There will always be tons of people dumb enough to get caught with their pants down to enjoy being Milked like Money Cow by Unscrupulous Company.

Now is PGI any different ?!? Only time will tell right ? I for one know better than blindly giving out my money. I lost Faith in the Gaming Industry a long time ago.

Anyway, if the game is realy worth 120$ good for all those who bought their Legendary Pack. If the Game is a huge Fail, I told you so comes to my mind...

Peace out

JP

[CeeKay Boques]

It is a money grab. We have been requesting that the Dev's shut up and grab our money for some time now. Again, PGI giving us what we want.

[Todtstelzer]

Hayden, on 20 June 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

I would have given 240.

Would you then please buy one for me

Edited by Todtstelzer, 20 June 2012 - 07:30 AM.

[Alexander Leandros]

it's not required of you to buy this, the game is free to play. however I don't mind dropping 120 to help support the game, yeah it's not exactly cheap but I want to see this game succeed.

[ice trey]

I'm not fooled by the "founders' Mechs". They're just some minor revisions on the sculpts, not major changes. For that matter, I actually like the normal, block-nosed catapult more than the beak-nosed founders' version.

What did I pay 120 bucks for? Getting the game up off the ground. Giving them capital. There're going to be a lot of players "hitching a free ride" in this game. It is F2P, after all - I don't blame them.

However, I don't want to see this be a stillborn project. I want this mechwarrior game to get up off the ground, and I'm sure that Piranha games have racked up a bit of debt prepping this game. I've been waiting... what... more than a decade for a new mechwarrior game, especially since Mechwarrior 4 games were taking a route that deviated heavily from the Battletech universe.

If I were paying for 'mechs, I would agree that this whole thing was a scam (I cried bloody murder that Microsoft tried selling 4 mechs and a map or two in one of two booster packs for nearly the cost of the core game). However, I'd still be throwing a fair amount of coin in the hat even if they weren't offering anything at all. I do so in hopes they keep new 'mechs coming, new mission areas and maybe even one day offer us some PVE/SinglePlayer options.

[wwiiogre]

Let's see, OP had no posts before this one. Calls for people to not support product acts like PGI is doing something bad by asking people to invest in their vision. Hmmm does OP want PGI to fail?

OP is an anonymous forum poster with an obvious agenda. So Royalwave, if you would like anyone to believe anything you say perhaps stepping out from the shadows and from behind the curtain would help your position. Otherwise this post was trolling of the worst sort and designed to damage a product in its beta stage.

This product is not unseen as you claim, there are tons of videos, at E3 anyone there could play the game without an NDA. So most of your statements are completely false. As for pay to win those claims are also false.

So in your first post the only thing you got right was that PGI was looking for money. Nobody was forced to pay money, but like others I invested in the idea. Why? Because having been here on the forums and having the wonderful opportunity to interact with many PGI and IGP employees thru chat, voip, etc. My impressions are these people love the IP, love BT/Mechwarrior and want to make the best game ever released in the series. They put their own money where thier mouth was and financed it themselves.

I salute them and have pledged to help them so I can have a BT/MW game to play for many years to come. Unlike you Royalwave I want to see them succeed and I am willing to stepup and help.

Please go troll somewhere else and if you choose to post on a forum with an agenda that includes attempting to sink a game before it even starts. Perhaps you should say who you really are and who you really work for. Or are you part of the movement "Occupy PGI?"

chris

[CoffiNail]

A money grab? Yep, it is a company after all.
<--- look I paid, because I want the best damn game we can get, and because I love PGI and MechWarrior.

[Ebynfel]

Technoviking, on 20 June 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

It is a money grab. We have been requesting that the Dev's shut up and grab our money for some time now. Again, PGI giving us what we want.

This ^

[Roughneck45]

I don't understand why this is something to complain about.

If you don't want it, don't buy it.

Personally, I was thrilled when i saw they made it an option, and i picked it up right away.

The only reason i can think of for someone making this thread is jealousy at not being able to afford it? Who knows....

[SkipP]

Look at the Founder's Packages as investing in the game's future. You're an angel investor, giving the company money which will be returned to you, in this case, hopefully as a good product.

I think it's unfair to judge the company based purely on their Metacritic score, and someone who had taken the time to read about the game, and read the forums, probably wouldn't do that.

You could always do what I did - buy the lowest tier package ($30), then wait to see if the game is good before spending additional money.