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#181 Promptus

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

No way I'm paying $120. That's just silly.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:01 AM

If you don't want to give them any money, don't. It's that simple. You'll still get to play, just like everyone else. Personally, I felt $60 was a fair price to pay. It's the cost of an average game these days. I don't care for most of the founders mechs, and getting my name in the credits didn't matter to me. So buying the $120 pack seemed like a bad idea for me, personally.

If buying a founders package doesn't appeal to you, simply don't buy one!

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:03 AM

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:04 AM

View PostPromptus, on 20 June 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

No way I'm paying $120. That's just silly.


agreed! it's too ridiculous, borderline insane

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#185 Pando

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:06 AM

I purchased two Legendary packages and plan on purchasing two more, bringing my grand total to $480.00.

I'm not going to lecture or pick apart your original post, others have beaten me to the punch. I hope you find enjoyment with MWO as I'm sure I, as well as tens of thousands of others will.

If you don't find enjoyment and are left astray, fill out the form on page 1 submitted by snowdragon!

#186 Ockbald

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:07 AM

Ok first things first...

Regarding Metacritic: It became popular for gaming jornalists and even developtment teams to use it as it means everthing. You see publishers basing bonuses on it, you see investors caring about it and so on and so fort...When gaming jornalists is just another cog on the hype engine. I could list you here to all eternity great games that have average meta critic of 5 to 3.

Now a valid concern would be to look back at mechwarrior 5. However, I'm sure the people who purchased this where the ones who actually looked the gameplay for MWO and decided it was worth the investment. I know it did look much smoother and interesting than Mechwarrior 5 and the mech redesigns, purist be damned, look BETTER than the classic ones! Mostly because they are updates, not overhauls.

#187 Tano

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:08 AM

People spend money accordingly to their interests and hobbies.

Don't judge or cry when someone spends what you can't/won't.

#188 Russ Bullock

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:08 AM

Uh oh the secret is out.

Like every other game company on earth we decided to make a game to try and make some money. The Founders program serves many purposes but one is to recoup some investment and allow us to expand both the game and into other regions at an accelerated pace. If you dont like the packs we respect your ability to choose not to by one.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:08 AM

Of course it's a money grab. They need money to keep the project going. There's nothing wrong with coming up with ways to entice punters to part with their money. Some players will pay for the founders pack, many without even having played the game at all. Other players will choose to put their money into the game later on, after release, if they decide they like it and want to play long term.

Either is OK, both is a valid choice that we as players have.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:10 AM

You can just send me your money and i'll pretend to care, :( But the packages seem pretty decent IMO and thay aren't mandatory.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:10 AM

Money grab? I don't fully agree. They try to earn money: yes.
I do like the mechwarrior games. Then it comes to the point "will I support or not?" Don't forget the game itself is Free to play for everone.
I hardly buy the expensive games nowadays. Mechwarrior is a game that stands so differently then all those billion shooter games.
Mech games are not plenty...Usually they bring these games out on consoles. (Shame on you!!!! PC is still good...you think they don't copy games on console????)

I just looked, Do I have the money, am I willing to support what I like: yes......

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 20 June 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Uh oh the secret is out.

Like every other game company on earth we decided to make a game to try and make some money. The Founders program serves many purposes but one is to recoup some investment and allow us to expand both the game and into other regions at an accelerated pace. If you dont like the packs we respect your ability to choose not to by one.

Um excuse me mr. staffer ..you should be back in your office gettting to work and not trolling our trolls. Thank you AND GOOD DAY! What AM I PAYING YOU FOR! :( j/k

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

By investing in a Founders pack, my hope is that the game when complete, is better than it ever could have been without my investment. I love this universe and it holds a special place in my heart. It appears I'm not alone based on the sales of the packs. It is the hope of all of us that invested that we get the best product possible. The Devs know what this game means to people, and if they didn't, well...they have to have been very pleased with the outpouring of support from the community through the Founders pack sales. All the extra cash they have now I'm sure will help make that a reality.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:13 AM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 20 June 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

Uh oh the secret is out.

Like every other game company on earth we decided to make a game to try and make some money. The Founders program serves many purposes but one is to recoup some investment and allow us to expand both the game and into other regions at an accelerated pace. If you dont like the packs we respect your ability to choose not to by one.


Attempting to be successful, at our expense? What if this IS successful, and then you have nothing but MechWarriors giving you money for awesome content. Pretty soon no one goes to work, no one has any money, the economy collapses. WoW comes out, economy collapses. .. I don't think you're considering the future!

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:13 AM

View Postblindprophet, on 20 June 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:


Its actually a Dune reference, but thanks I guess.

Your still comparing apples to oranges. SWTOR Required you to purchase the game in order to play the game period. There was a mandatory investment there in order to try the game, if you were not lucky to get into one of the beta slots. Here you are not required to invest at all in order to try the game. You simply have to wait till open beta, or hope previously you got a closed beta key.

That is the huge difference right there between the games. And the same reason you can't compare them like you are attempting to do.

And you're disappointed in the marketing...ok? I'm not really sure what your issue is there, or why you're upset about it so I can't even begin to address that from my own view point. All I can say is I haven't seen any issues myself.

And once again you're certainly welcome to your opinion on things.

Well I can tell you this, since I am no longer under NDA with SW:TOR... I was into Beta for SW:TOR, yes. I did find my share of Bugs, yes. Each time I reported a bug, I was being told that everything was woring as intended, /joy... Even when I had a GM teleporting to me to fix the "its working like intended" not-bug thing, /lotsajoy... Game went on "working as intended" and lots of Gamers got Screwed over beacause of all the "Hype" surrounding the Game we all were waiting for. I myself bought the CE, and the whole Boxed Set went into the Container a while ago.

So anyway, thats concerning SW:TOR. Now, what I am comparing is, the Hype surrounding SW:TOR AND the Hype surrounding MW:O. I am comparing the Hype, and the usual disappointment created by a product not meeting the Expectations pumped up by said Hype. I guess one needs to go thrue it to understand it, nyway...

And yes, ive got loads of Money to support the Games I like / Believe in, but right now I am still disapointed. Only time will tell if I have reasons to to be concerned about this.

Nyway, roommate needs my help with his Laptop, be back later I guess.

P.S.: If both said Apple and Orange end up in same Mouth, like mine for instance, its still all the same to me.

View PostPromptus, on 20 June 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

No way I'm paying $120. That's just silly.

LMAO you goof :(

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:15 AM

View PostTechnoviking, on 20 June 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:


Attempting to be successful, at our expense? What if this IS successful, and then you have nothing but MechWarriors giving you money for awesome content. Pretty soon no one goes to work, no one has any money, the economy collapses. WoW comes out, economy collapses. .. I don't think you're considering the future!


Push the keyboard away, spin your chair round, leave the room, go outside. *inserts sarcasm*

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:17 AM

Personally it is a disappointment for me that they just copied the world of tanks game in almost every way they could. Hugely expensive start up packs, exactly same premium benefits, the same money/exp system as well and premium tanks... I mean mechs. Even the price looks about the same.

I'm disappointed mostly because world of tanks is basically just a long grind and the mmo aspect of it is almost non-existent. And that grind system is pretty much tied to the business side. People are "encouraged" by the system to spend money to shorten the grind.

Tbh I was expecting mwo devs to create something of their own instead of making it world of mechs.

Hopefully there won't be random dice roll damage model accompanied with bad matchmaker. Still hopeful it can be fun to play but with these prices I'm not going to spend a dime on this.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:18 AM

They could have made even more money of me by offering a Marauder on top of the legendary pack for another 60€. ;D

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:19 AM

I guess it comes down to one basic question:
What business is it of yours how anyone else chooses to spend their money?

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:23 AM

View PostBryan Ekman, on 20 June 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

Seeing as this thread an degenerate quickly into a pro/con thread, I ask everyone keeps it civil and respectful. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.


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