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[Wingbreaker]

All of Closed Beta yawns.

[TimePeriod]

Hillslam, on 09 August 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

PGI hates snipers because they rightly recognize them as the amoral degenerate cowardly lowlife scum that they are.

If you do nothing but snipe you do nothing but irritate people (the enemy AND your team), you don't contribute to the win, and you are a bad person. All snipers should be rapped on the knuckles.

Unless they are a hot sniper chick. In which case they should be spanked. Preferrably while wearing something sexy. Meet me at my house tonight with a bottle of single malt scotch and some scented body oils. Naughty girl snipers...

wait what were we talking about?

You lost me at hot...

[IraqiWalker]

Naenlor, on 09 August 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

And another arrogant douchebag is on the internet. You bring that 12 MG against ANY mech, even garrison mechs, and you will lose buddy, but do stay on top of what you believe to be a white horse (which is actually just a donkey) all you want, you will lose, every single match against me with it.

You haven't played competitively have you?

MGs are always better than AC2s, especially on lights.

[Bishop Steiner]

IraqiWalker, on 09 August 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

You haven't played competitively have you?

MGs are always better than AC2s, especially on lights.

you know forums, lots of armchair generals.

[wanderer]

Stefka Kerensky, on 08 August 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:

Kit fox cannot mount a gauss.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42c5b5c9ce6d5de

Two seconds in Smurfy. You were saying?

[TOGSolid]

Black Ivan, on 08 August 2014 - 11:41 PM, said:

Beause Snipers and poptarts ruin the game. Too bad PGI loves LRM boats.

Too bad LRMs are totally useless outside of trolling PUGs.

[TimePeriod]

wanderer, on 09 August 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42c5b5c9ce6d5de

Two seconds in Smurfy. You were saying?

No! DON'T SHOW THE LIN- Ahh damnit..
Thanks a lot!
Now we're going to have gauss kittens all over the damn place.

[IraqiWalker]

wanderer, on 09 August 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42c5b5c9ce6d5de

Two seconds in Smurfy. You were saying?

There's a difference between he build being possible, and viable. That build is NOT viable. Only 2.5 tons, and crappy armor.

[Fleeb the Mad]

To answer the OP, PGI doesn't hate snipers. However this hotfix is indeed a targeted attempt to remove PPCs as a sniper weapon.

Though kindly don't misrepresent this patch as an attack on snipers. They want sniping to be a viable tactic, however I infer from these changes that they want snipers to specialize at sniping. PPC + AC/Gauss combinations were able to snipe at range while remaining equally effective up close, which put a hurt on anyone who came to the table with shorter-ranged weapons.

While PGI hasn't said, deep in my cold iron heart I nurture some hope that they're trying to give brawling a much needed push.

I can't say I'm outraged. This is going to kill some of my Awesome builds, but I love brawling, I really do. Since the Clans it's just been so very hard to close range with everyone gearing for 700m combat. PPC sniper combinations are not nearly as effective if they can't salvo-fire, so I expect that they'll either have to fight at closer ranges, which makes it easier to start brawls, or they'll change to other sniper loadouts that aren't as effective at close range as current meta builds. Which again gives some openings to brawlers.

Since the Gauss/PPC fire control code is in the engine, part of me also suspects this is a test to see if a PPC adjustment could work before trying a different solution.

Edited by Fleeb the Mad, 09 August 2014 - 02:46 PM.

[Wingbreaker]

wanderer, on 09 August 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42c5b5c9ce6d5de

Two seconds in Smurfy. You were saying?

****, the stock A mounts a gauss. GGclose.

[wanderer]

TOGSolid, on 09 August 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Too bad LRMs are totally useless outside of trolling PUGs.

Eh. They work just fine in group queue, but they're second-tier below the usual meta-mode.

A full-on NARC/LRM group can obliterate anything short of the golden combo of heavy ECM + the usual ballistic/PPC hosefest, especially if said ECM isn't allowed to be exposed and NARCd out of the match.

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IraqiWalker, on 09 August 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

There's a difference between he build being possible, and viable. That build is NOT viable. Only 2.5 tons, and crappy armor.

It has as much reason as an AC20 Raven, a 6 PPC Battlemaster.
It may not be viable but it is a fuckton of fun.

[IraqiWalker]

TimePeriod, on 09 August 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

It has as much reason as an AC20 Raven, a 6 PPC Battlemaster.
It may not be viable but it is a fuckton of fun.

That is true.

My 9xERPPC DWF is a helluva lot of fun, but it's not a proper build.

2xAC20 Cicada 2A is another fun build, but it's a joke build. Not something that you would bring into a proper match.

[Sandpit]

TimePeriod, on 09 August 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

It has as much reason as an AC20 Raven, a 6 PPC Battlemaster.
It may not be viable but it is a fuckton of fun.

i've run both of those at times.
guess what
they aren't viable
they're fun to troll around in if you're not worried about winning, that's it. That's part of the core problem witht he game in general. The only thing that matters in this game is how much damage you can do and how many kills you can get.

What happens if your team loses? You still win cbills and exp. There is no losing in this game.

[IraqiWalker]

Sandpit, on 09 August 2014 - 03:49 PM, said:

i've run both of those at times.
guess what
they aren't viable
they're fun to troll around in if you're not worried about winning, that's it. That's part of the core problem witht he game in general. The only thing that matters in this game is how much damage you can do and how many kills you can get.

What happens if your team loses? You still win cbills and exp. There is no losing in this game.

Actually, in group play. I'll take that AC 20 raven.

Who doesn't want the best satellite in the game?

[TOGSolid]

wanderer, on 09 August 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

Eh. They work just fine in group queue, but they're second-tier below the usual meta-mode.

A full-on NARC/LRM group can obliterate anything short of the golden combo of heavy ECM + the usual ballistic/PPC hosefest, especially if said ECM isn't allowed to be exposed and NARCd out of the match.

Right but the golden combo is pretty much what any team not just goofing off is gonna wanna run anyway. Coordinated LRMs will wreck face but once you're facing off against teams that aren't just faffing about/drunk/both then LRMs get shut down hard. They're just too messy and binary (they either work or they don't and there's no inbetween) to be a weapon I'd intentionally run outside of coordinated trolling groups and in serious competition they're just a complete non-starter assuming the other team has half a brain.

LRMs really need an overhaul.

[STEF_]

wanderer, on 09 August 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...42c5b5c9ce6d5de

Two seconds in Smurfy. You were saying?

I'm saying that this isn't a good build. Yes, it is possible, but I'll never pilot this

[Psikez]

Stefka Kerensky, on 09 August 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

I'm saying that this isn't a good build. Yes, it is possible, but I'll never pilot this

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ee3d7d214fffc5b

Pilot this instead

[Canas]

IraqiWalker, on 09 August 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

Or someone who is not a native speaker.

elitist much?


(If your statement was supposed to be sarcastic, I apologize for not getting that. Internet does not transfer sarcasm that well)

No,he/she was being an ass

[Wolfways]

Naenlor, on 09 August 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

I treat people the same way they treat me, like the the golden rule, but in reverse.

You might want to wait until people insult you before insulting them. Your forum experience might be nicer...maybe.