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[Dawnstealer]

I like this idea, but it would be horrible for my plan of being the only King Crab pilot in this game, so I have to say "no."

[Bilbo]

Dawnstealer, on 17 September 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

I like this idea, but it would be horrible for my plan of being the only King Crab pilot in this game, so I have to say "no."

Your plan is foiled anyway.

Pendraco, on 17 September 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

hmmm - sorry, for some reason quotes do not work for me???

Then it should be easy for them to jump in and say - no problem guys, we got this! I would be happy, they would get yet another $120 out of me and all these guys can get they're gift mech - problem solved.

If you are using IE, click the light switch in the top left corner of the editor box and you will be able to quote.

Edited by Bilbo, 17 September 2014 - 07:22 PM.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Pendraco, on 17 September 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

hmmm - sorry, for some reason quotes do not work for me???

Then it should be easy for them to jump in and say - no problem guys, we got this! I would be happy, they would get yet another $120 out of me and all these guys can get they're gift mech - problem solved.

Edit: I do not know anything about coding games......but doesn't the clan use all the same systems..just with different values?

If you are using Internet Explorer IPB (Invision Power Board, this software) has issues with it, added to all the custom code they are running is not helping.

[Pendraco]

In the interest of time...why not make the KC gift Mech a hero, give it to those that qualify and let everyone else buy it?

Edited by Pendraco, 17 September 2014 - 07:25 PM.

[WM Jeri]

Dark DeLaurel, on 16 September 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Worst idea ever, you did not get in on the packages back then to show your support why should you be able to buy what those of us bought sight unseen now?

See now I don't mind this attitude, SgtMagor realizes he missed the opportunity and is alright with the fact.

So you are saying that the packages that were sold before someone even knew what MW:O was should be able to get all the perks of the people that got those packages site unseen? Just because they were not around at that point in time? Kind of reminds me of stores that do not offer rain checks, you miss the item on sale tough luck.

Packages are limited because they want people to buy them, if they are not limited due to time there is no incentive to create a mad rush of "Must have shiny!". If you missed out on the original package for whatever reason why should it get re-released now?

Actually it is you who needs to deal with it, you wanted to run two accounts that is your own problem. All I am seeing in this thread is a lot of self entitlement "I should get this or that because reasons!"

Those of us that supported the game from the start and bought the packages sight unseen, even through the ups and downs did why didnt you? So now that PGI is turning over a new leaf and trying to gain back the community with rewards, how is it you should get the same perks as those of us who have been supportive?

Show your support by buying MC, Premium time, next Inner Sphere `Mech pack. Just do not ask for the old packages to get re-released because you didnt want to support the company back then, or because you were not aware of the game back then. Those were special editions of things, never to be seen again. They were to make people want them then, because they thought "wow! that is damn shiny!"

If this happened I would stop putting money into this game, and I have dropped a crapton (not as much as the folks who have multiple gold `Mechs but close). I know others who would also, as it would show them going back on their word of limited time only.

Have to say I am in the same boat as Dark here. PGI's tone and actions since the IGP split has me spending money again. I have purchased every pak at the max value to include the latest. While I am all for PGI making money, the words limited time only have meaning to me and are part of my perceived value of my purchase. To put it bluntly I have something that those that did not purchase do not. If this is re-released then it lessens the value of my purchase in my eyes as to its exclusitivity and I will stop buying again as it would violate the trust of the terms of my original purchase.

Edited by WM Jeri, 17 September 2014 - 07:58 PM.

[Petrothian Tong]

So....

Operation revival-revival?

=D

*runs*
more money for the devs.

[WM Jeri]

Roadkill, on 16 September 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

This I can support. Create a new pack for IS loyalists (or any of the rest of us, too) to buy.

But not the Founders, Phoenix, or Sabre packs. Those limited editions are gone and should not be sold again.

This too I am ok with.

[WM Jeri]

ShadowbaneX, on 17 September 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

I love this assumption that I've somehow got buyer's remorse for not dropping more money on this. As I said in the announcement thread, I had a severe lack of cash when the Phoenix packages were on sale. I barely managed to scrape together enough cash to get my beloved Shadow Hawks, but that was all I could afford at the time. I'm gainfully employed now though and would seriously consider upgrading my package if it became available again.

I get it...but that is life. There are multiple stock deals and IPO's I missed out on that I knew were great deals but you know what the kids had college and what not and life happens. "Limited" does have a meaning.

[Bront]

Scratx, on 17 September 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

Neither. I made a suggestion earlier that fixes that problem. I'll refine it here.
...
Just a few ideas I had...

That qualifies as them making a new pack, where as my comments were about the Phoenix pack.

[Ovion]

I say just re-release the Talon Pack.
No extras, just 3 overpriced Locusts, one of which is fancy with a 30% c-bill bonus

[Russ Bullock]

Very interesting thread.

I see the desire from our IS pilots, but I don't know what the best solution is yet.

[Javin]

Make some new cool mech packs for the IS

WIth Long Toms, X pulse, MRMs, HAGS, you know... fun stuff .

Sigh I know the timeline forbids the cool weapons but there are many mechs you could still build for the IS.

[CHH Badkarma]

Russ Bullock, on 17 September 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

Very interesting thread.

I see the desire from our IS pilots, but I don't know what the best solution is yet.

It is time to roll forward, to many things have been revisited or rolled back (caugh caugh, timeline)
Everyone in this game will have a time to shine. I think you would agree with this would you not Russ?
Anything is possible down the road. Progress however, only works when moving forward. Perhaps down the road a pack with those pesky mechs clad in white will be available to those loyal to that order (caugh caugh)

Edited by CHH Badkarma, 18 September 2014 - 12:01 AM.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Russ Bullock, on 17 September 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

Very interesting thread.

I see the desire from our IS pilots, but I don't know what the best solution is yet.

It is a hard decision,but by re-issuing these packs you will end up losing a lot of the good will that has been regained the past few days from the folks that have purchased them.

As I said earlier and in other spots in GD, even though I have not liked some of the decisions that have been made for the game direction. I still bought the packs, within the first few days of them being open for pre-order and there are others that have done the same thing. Hell look at the rush today for the Wave 2 pack, when something like Phoenix came out it was stated very clearly that it was a limited one time only thing.

If it wasnt, then I would have most likely only bought the Battlemaster, Shadow Hawk and Thunder Bolt and for C-Bills no less so no revenue from me for that. The package as a whole though with the perks is what made me purchase it, the premium time, `Mech bays, etc for getting it right away won me over.

And now because of people seeing stuff like this is getting rewarded are well butt hurt that they didnt support you guys at those times because they were pissed off for whatever reason, or they had no clue what MW:O was, etc. So all of a sudden they want to go back in time with hindsight buy the package(s).

I see the King Crab reward as a way to reward the faithful for being there for the game and the company, which really for how it is setup it is. The `Mech will most likely go to quite a few people as it is (which is cool), but I just see a lot of jealousy here from the folks who didnt have faith (and for me to use the word faith means a crapton as well is a conversation for another day ha...)

CHH Badkarma, on 17 September 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Perhaps down the road a pack with those pesky mechs clad in white will be available to those loyal to that order (caugh caugh)

uh...ok there are a few of those infernal White `Mechs I would want, mainly because the Great Father General Kerensky commissioned their designs

[dario03]

Russ Bullock, on 17 September 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

Very interesting thread.

I see the desire from our IS pilots, but I don't know what the best solution is yet.

You should just make bonus rewards based on money spent. Its already been announced that people that bought Overlord Phoenix will get the KC so maybe leave that as is but also make a second way of getting it that is based purely on money spent. Could even be a lot higher than the cost of the overlord package. That way you are actually rewarding players for amount of money spent and not just when it was spent.

Right now you have it so that a player that bought $80 phoenix and $7 MC gets all 3 bonus reward mechs. But somebody that paid hundreds in MC purchases will only get the Centurion. That doesn't seem right to me, the guy that spent hundreds on MC did support more than the guy that bought Phoenix and a little MC.

I mean yeah these are bonuses and didn't have to be done but if you are going to do "loyalty rewards" then I think you should actually reward based on money spent. And this way you don't have to bother upsetting the players that bought the Phoenix pack and want that exclusivity either.

Edited by dario03, 18 September 2014 - 12:06 AM.

[CHH Badkarma]

Dark DeLaurel, on 18 September 2014 - 12:05 AM, said:

uh...ok there are a few of those infernal White `Mechs I would want, mainly because the Great Father General Kerensky commissioned their designs

hence the "loyal to that order" part.

you are too technical you surat
and you have enough mechs already

Edited by CHH Badkarma, 18 September 2014 - 12:10 AM.

[Moonlander]

Although I was not here for the release of the Phoenix pack, it's probably best to not release it again, even if the extra bonuses were excluded. Kind of does seem a bit unfair. It does suck for the purists to some extent but I mean, you win some you lose some. Can't make everyone happy, all the time..

[Dark DeLaurel]

dario03, on 18 September 2014 - 12:05 AM, said:

You should just make bonus rewards based on money spent. Its already been announced that people that bought Overlord Phoenix will get the KC so maybe leave that as is but also make a second way of getting it that is based purely on money spent. Could even be a lot higher than the cost of the overlord package. That way you are actually rewarding players for amount of money spent and not just when it was spent.

Right now you have it so that a player that bought $80 phoenix and $7 MC gets all 3 bonus reward mechs. But somebody that paid hundreds in MC purchases will only get the Centurion. That doesn't seem right to me, the guy that spent hundreds on MC did support more than the guy that bought Phoenix and a little MC.

I mean yeah these are bonuses and didn't have to be done but if you are going to do "loyalty rewards" then I think you should actually reward based on money spent. And this way you don't have to bother upsetting the players that bought the Phoenix pack and want that exclusivity either.

In the end the people who may have only spent 80$ on Phoenix did so sight unseen with a game that at the time had a pretty rocky future. The people that have shelled out a lot of MC, have purchased known quality/quantities of things no waiting instant gratification.

[Dark DeLaurel]

CHH Badkarma, on 18 September 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

hence the "loyal to that order" part.

you are too technical you surat
and you have enough mechs already

huh? naw that is a figment of your imagination, I am trying to build a proper Galaxy here of combined arms between MW:O and WoT....

[Ristle]

I'd say keep the integrity of the limited sale, and not re-release the Phoenix pack. It's like Founders and other limited sales in the past, bought in by people that stuck with the game and liked what they seen, and they're being rewarded as a result of their loyalty by PGI.

The alternative would be a new high price pack for the anniversary, or just shell out for one of the clan packages. For IS purists, I'd say make a Hero Mech bundle, to justify a higher price point than the $80 Phoenix, and everyone wins. Clans are out in full force, so it wouldn't hurt to see A-Games IS mechs brought out for a limited discount with maybe a hero from each weight class to represent such a package. Maybe toss in some cockpit trinkets and call it a day.