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#18621 FupDup

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 06:53 PM

View PostSuperFunkTron, on 25 January 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

FupDup, by any chance do you have the spread sheet for the pouncer

Ask and ye shall receive:

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#18622 FLG 01

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:14 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 25 January 2018 - 01:22 PM, said:

FLG considering your play style is usually cavalry, the Coyotl would be right up your ally...Posted Image

Quite right, and I am the first to say it would be a good Mech in MWO. It is also a good looking Mech, imo, and as a fan of extinct Mechs you can bet I like it for other reasons too. Who knows? If Alex produces a convincing artwork I could easily change my mind...
But whatever my personal feelings are, there is no doubt the Coyotl deserves to be recognized when it comes to Clan 40t Mechs.

And right now I am more concerned with the 40t Mechs for the IS. There is the danger that we might get the Chimera, a really bad unit even by the standards of IS MW:4-originals - and that's saying a lot.

#18623 Metus regem

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:15 PM

Fup, do you have the answer to life, the universe and everything? :wink:

#18624 FupDup

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:17 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 25 January 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

Fup, do you have the answer to life, the universe and everything? :wink:

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#18625 SuperFunkTron

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:21 PM

Now that is a mech with a lot of options to load out!

#18626 Gasoline

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 10:24 PM

View PostFLG 01, on 25 January 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

And right now I am more concerned with the 40t Mechs for the IS. There is the danger that we might get the Chimera, a really bad unit even by the standards of IS MW:4-originals - and that's saying a lot.


At the moment the Dervish and Men Shen are the most popular... If PGI get's around to actually considering IS Omnis, we might get the Men Shen... at least it's a MC2 mech... here's hoping.

#18627 Sereglach

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 11:03 PM

View PostGasoline, on 25 January 2018 - 10:24 PM, said:

At the moment the Dervish and Men Shen are the most popular... If PGI get's around to actually considering IS Omnis, we might get the Men Shen... at least it's a MC2 mech... here's hoping.

While both good mediums, they're not 40 tons. Specifically addressing the 40t bracket of FLG's specific concern, I agree the Chimera is an outright wretched choice in mechs (and personally hate that thing).

I'd much rather see the Clint, Hermes II, Sentinel, Vulcan, or Whitworth . . . without getting outside timeline or into omnimechs. The Clint would be my personal choice for next IS 40 ton chassis, but probably needs to wait on timeline/tech for more viable variants (of course that doesn't stop PGI, but I'd love some Plasma Rifles and Light AC's).

#18628 Odanan

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 03:03 AM

View PostFupDup, on 25 January 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

Ask and ye shall receive:

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Not bad!!!

Pouncer is now in my top 3 Clan medium list!
  • Vapor Eagle (munchkin mech);
  • Hellhound (for the nostalgia and for fixing the lore);
  • Pouncer (sorry Coyotl...).
Which Pouncer variants PGI should take?
  • Prime
  • A (delicious side torsos)
  • D (monster arms)
  • C (only because of that ballistic right arm)
  • B (versatile arms)
  • Hero with ballistic in the left arm.


#18629 xVLFBERHxT

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:30 AM

Dervish OP!

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Edited by xVLFBERHxT, 26 January 2018 - 04:31 AM.


#18630 Odanan

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:58 AM

View PostxVLFBERHxT, on 26 January 2018 - 04:30 AM, said:

Dervish OP!

Dervish is iconic (sort of) but do we need 5 more Griffins?

#18631 Metus regem

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:53 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 January 2018 - 03:03 AM, said:

Not bad!!!

Pouncer is now in my top 3 Clan medium list!
  • Pouncer (sorry Coyotl...).


Top 4 still?

At least with the Coyotl all the hard points are close to cockpit level... LT/RT are just above, LA/RA at and CT just below cockpit height, the Pouncer can't claim that feature... Also the Alpha Coyotl can jump better than the Pouncer, almost as good as the Viper. (5/7/8 JJ's for Pouncer/Coyotl/Viper)...

#18632 SuperFunkTron

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 09:01 AM

FupDup, sorry to be so needy but could you provide the spreadsheet for the Phantom as well? I know there are some well armed variants, but your spreadsheets make the info so much easier to handle.

#18633 Lanzman

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 09:28 AM

View PostSereglach, on 25 January 2018 - 11:03 PM, said:

The Clint would be my personal choice for next IS 40 ton chassis . . .

Yes please. Posted Image

#18634 Odanan

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 09:41 AM

View PostLanzman, on 26 January 2018 - 09:28 AM, said:

Yes please. Posted Image

Never liked the Clint.... (though it could be salvageable in MWO)

#18635 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:27 AM

View PostSereglach, on 25 January 2018 - 11:03 PM, said:

I'd much rather see the Clint, Hermes II, Sentinel, Vulcan, or Whitworth . . . without getting outside timeline or into omnimechs. The Clint would be my personal choice for next IS 40 ton chassis, but probably needs to wait on timeline/tech for more viable variants (of course that doesn't stop PGI, but I'd love some Plasma Rifles and Light AC's).

The Sha Yu is my top pick for IS 40 tonner.

I'll admit it's not terribly interesting, but I like the aesthetic.

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:30 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 January 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

Never liked the Clint.... (though it could be salvageable in MWO)

I think it would be a solid trooper mech in MWO. It'd probably get Wolfhound-esque quirks to make it a rugged and nimble trooper mech, that also differentiates it from the Cicada and Assassin, but it wouldn't outright NEED obscene quirks to make it viable . . . unlike the chimera which absolutely would require them.

In addition, the hardpoints heavily favor the asymmetrical sword-and-board fighting style with great shielding potential; and any of them could zombie if you wanted, since they pretty much all have CT hardpoints (not that it's popular anymore). There are also plenty of variants for the laser meta to love.

Honestly, though, having a mini Yen Lo with full arm actuators, likely Assassin grade or better hitboxes, that jumps, runs around with a RAC/5 with plenty of ammo, max armor, and going over 100kph is pretty enticing to me.

#18637 Odanan

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 26 January 2018 - 10:27 AM, said:

The Sha Yu is my top pick for IS 40 tonner.

I'll admit it's not terribly interesting, but I like the aesthetic.

Indeed. It's a very good looking mech.

#18638 Metus regem

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:33 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 January 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

Indeed. It's a very good looking mech.


It is, I just worry that it would suffer similar issues to the Shadowcat interms of arm weapon convergence....

And she'd likely have very similar hit boxes too...

#18639 Hayek Lahiri

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:33 AM

Blood Asp or riot.

#18640 Metus regem

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:34 AM

View PostPlatinum Top, on 26 January 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

Blood Asp or riot.



Be my guest to riot, but we are talking 40t mechs at the moment...





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