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[Phoenix Branson]

Hey Bishop, do you have concept art for the Nightstar? Would love to see it...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Nightstar

[Bishop Steiner]

not ATM. Might have to give it a whirl.

[Phoenix Branson]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 November 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

not ATM. Might have to give it a whirl.

Can't wait to see it...

[FireSlade]

Same here after catching wind of it I am hoping that we see it as the first 95 tonner

[Bishop Steiner]

Maverick01, on 14 November 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

Can't wait to see it...

not much, but the 5 minute concept would have it going along these lines, probably.

[Karl Streiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 November 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

not much, but the 5 minute concept would have it going along these lines, probably.

WTF.
i always hated that design - it was ugly and for 5t more i got a better mech - but this one...
Bishop -> any plans on becomming an official TRO painter?

[Odanan]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 November 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

not much, but the 5 minute concept would have it going along these lines, probably.

5 minutes? Dang.

[Strum Wealh]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 November 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

not much, but the 5 minute concept would have it going along these lines, probably.

Very nice!

Would we be able to get sketches - and possibly even a group sketch - of the whole Marauder family (Marauder (already done), Bandersnatch, Dragon Fire, Maelstrom, Rakshasa, Marauder IIC, Nightstar (already done), and Marauder II)?

[John MatriX82]

Strum Wealh, on 15 November 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

Would we be able to get sketches - and possibly even a group sketch - of the whole Marauder family (Marauder (already done), Bandersnatch, Dragon Fire, Maelstrom, Rakshasa, Marauder IIC, Nightstar (already done), and Marauder II)?

The man would probably take a couple of hours with an instant hard-on thinking about all of those

[Karl Streiger]

Strum Wealh, on 15 November 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

Would we be able to get sketches - and possibly even a group sketch - of the whole Marauder family (Marauder (already done), Bandersnatch, Dragon Fire, Maelstrom, Rakshasa, Marauder IIC, Nightstar (already done), and Marauder II)?

This one?
The - ***** - Mech?
I mean i liked the loadout and well i was about to buy it...but than i saw the miniature:


Although - the Dragon Fire is not part of the Marauder Family - at least it is not longer writen in the TRO 3058 Upgrade.
Same for the Falconer and Bandersnatch - believe both should have been based on the Orion (3055)

Edited by Karl Streiger, 15 November 2013 - 06:11 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

why is it none of the Marauder "family" look remotely like a marauder in the 3058 tro? Seriously, the "advanced feature" of the chassis was the arms (which the timberwolf continued with) and yet, all the descendants have largely useless limited arm joints.

[FupDup]

Karl Streiger, on 15 November 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

LOL crotch cannon.

Edited by FupDup, 15 November 2013 - 07:30 AM.

[John MatriX82]

FupDup, on 15 November 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

LOL crotch cannon.

No thong hitboxes on that thing! xD

[The Mechromancer]

FupDup, on 15 November 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

LOL crotch cannon.

Can't believe nobody just stood up and said "uh guys, this looks kinda like a ____"

[Strum Wealh]

Karl Streiger, on 15 November 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

This one?
The - ***** - Mech?
I mean i liked the loadout and well i was about to buy it...but than i saw the miniature:

I was indeed referring to that very one.
(IMO, any redesign effort should probably start with having the Large Laser slung under the torso/turret and having an over-under alignment with the Medium Pulse Laser, rather than having the DGR look like it's ready to give the Marauder grandchildren. )

Karl Streiger, on 15 November 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

Although - the Dragon Fire is not part of the Marauder Family - at least it is not longer writen in the TRO 3058 Upgrade.
Same for the Falconer and Bandersnatch - believe both should have been based on the Orion (3055)

It was, however written in the original TRO 3058... which, as it happens, also indicates that the Dragon Fire has fully-actuated arms; "Two hand actuators give the 'Mech an edge in hand-to-hand combat and also allow it to retrieve salvage from the battlefield."

Though, it does appear that the upgrade TRO 3058 seems to imply (but not explicitly state) splitting-off the Dragon Fire from the Marauder line, moving the Nightstar up to second (with NSJs being deployed in the early years of the Amaris Civil War) and leaving the Maelstrom (which hadn't even reached the construction-of-prototypes stage when the Star League dissolved) as the third in the Marauder line.

Bishop Steiner, on 15 November 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

why is it none of the Marauder "family" look remotely like a marauder in the 3058 tro? Seriously, the "advanced feature" of the chassis was the arms (which the timberwolf continued with) and yet, all the descendants have largely useless limited arm joints.

The same thing seems to happen in automobiles - the Camaro family (especially the fourth-generation vs the first three generations) somewhat illustrates this.

And for something of a far-fetched theory: with TRO 3058 being published in September 1995 (that is, during the time when the issue between FASA and Harmony Gold was heating up), perhaps the variation was a sneaky & roundabout way of "testing the waters" with regard to altering elements of the Marauder's design by introducing a number of "Marauder-ish" 'Mechs and seeing what became popular?

[Odanan]

Guys, who here played Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries? What do you think about that?

[Bishop Steiner]

Strum Wealh, on 15 November 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

Very nice!

Would we be able to get sketches - and possibly even a group sketch - of the whole Marauder family (Marauder (already done), Bandersnatch, Dragon Fire, Maelstrom, Rakshasa, Marauder IIC, Nightstar (already done), and Marauder II)?

Dragonsfire concept?

[Phoenix Branson]

Bishop Steiner, on 14 November 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

not much, but the 5 minute concept would have it going along these lines, probably.

Nice! You have some serious talent my friend.

[Anjian]

Odanan, on 15 November 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Guys, who here played Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries? What do you think about that?

I like it. But PGI will never make a single player game, because its much harder to do so, since it requires developing AI opponents. That means considerable expenditure in development resources, and it seems PGI can't spare that.

That's quite sad because I have been spending time on other mech games, like Armored Core Verdict Day which the developers have spent quite a bit of effort in developing AI opponents and partners, that having AI partners is a main feature of the game. Somehow like Mechwarrior 4 did with its AI partners.

Lately, Hawken with its Ascension patch, has introduced an offline mode where you can train with AI bots as partners, against a team of opposing enemy AI bots. That is laying the basis for a single player mission campaign. The next patch after that, Invasion, introduced a coop mode against waves of AI bots and drones. Coop modes is another reason for creating AIs.

Without AIs, you are not going to have single player story mission modes, and you're not going to have coop modes either, and yet I find both necessary in today's competitive game climate.

[Bishop Steiner]

Strum Wealh, on 15 November 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

Very nice!

Would we be able to get sketches - and possibly even a group sketch - of the whole Marauder family (Marauder (already done), Bandersnatch, Dragon Fire, Maelstrom, Rakshasa, Marauder IIC, Nightstar (already done), and Marauder II)?

well, can't deliver ALL of them, but here are a few concept sketches






don't know if I consider the Rakshasa part of the family. Will have to think about the MAD II, IIC, etc.