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#7161 Odanan

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:08 AM

View Poststjobe, on 14 February 2014 - 08:40 AM, said:

Heresy.

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You WILL bow to your 20-tons-of-PURE-WIN overlords.

So the Flea is not a mech? As i suspected... :lol:

#7162 Belorion

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:21 AM

I am looking forward to the Flea actually.

I was never a fan of the Mauler, so if it doesn't get included due to variant restriction I won't cry.

Lets get the Charger in here :lol:

#7163 BarHaid

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:19 AM

View PostBelorion, on 14 February 2014 - 10:21 AM, said:

I am looking forward to the Flea actually.

I was never a fan of the Mauler, so if it doesn't get included due to variant restriction I won't cry.

Lets get the Charger in here :)

WOOT!!

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 12:59 PM

If I get my way the Thug will be the March Assault. :)

#7165 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:04 PM

View PostFireSlade, on 14 February 2014 - 12:59 PM, said:

If I get my way the Thug will be the March Assault. :)

if only I could convince them to make my Thug II into the Hero Mech........

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:13 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 14 February 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:

if only I could convince them to make my Thug II into the Hero Mech........

What's that baby packing?

#7167 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:20 PM

View PostFireSlade, on 14 February 2014 - 01:13 PM, said:

What's that baby packing?

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View PostBishop Steiner, on 14 February 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

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the 3065 Clan Wolf in Exile Thug IIC is even better
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Edited by Bishop Steiner, 14 February 2014 - 01:20 PM.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:35 PM

and how I would rework it for MWO
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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:43 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 14 February 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:

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the 3065 Clan Wolf in Exile Thug IIC is even better
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Nice, but since we do not have light engines PGI would have to use the 300xl which would give it a respectable 60.75/66.83kph. Running twin LBXs on my JM6-DD I know how devestating that it can be then you add in the twin SRM 6s and you get a very nasty brawler. I would buy that as soon as they released it and would have a smile on my face the whole time that I used it.

#7170 Butane9000

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 01:48 PM

You can build a Thug with the Awesome 8T and Battlemaster 1S.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:02 PM

View PostButane9000, on 14 February 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

You can build a Thug with the Awesome 8T and Battlemaster 1S.

Not quite the same since you lose out on the PPC in the arms. I hate putting powerful weapons in the torso just to lose out on the snap aiming and further reach.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:11 PM

View PostButane9000, on 14 February 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

You can build a Thug with the Awesome 8T and Battlemaster 1S.

the thug starts with a speed of 64 kph, meaning a higher engine cap than the 8T. And the BLR and Awesome both have their hardpoints in the wrong areas. Ghetto Thugs ain't real Thugs.

#7173 Odanan

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:57 AM

View PostFireSlade, on 14 February 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

Not quite the same since you lose out on the PPC in the arms. I hate putting powerful weapons in the torso just to lose out on the snap aiming and further reach.

Actually, the AWS-8T fits just perfectly. (the only problem is the engine restriction)

The Thug looks cool, but I always found it very underarmed.

#7174 John MatriX82

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 03:50 AM

da shotgun mech! ;)

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:23 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 February 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

Actually, the AWS-8T fits just perfectly. (the only problem is the engine restriction)

The Thug looks cool, but I always found it very underarmed.

pretty sure hardpoint inflation is a given.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:28 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 February 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

Actually, the AWS-8T fits just perfectly. (the only problem is the engine restriction)

The Thug looks cool, but I always found it very underarmed.

I imagine the Thug would have a profile, size and hitboxes generally akin to the Cataphract. Being a SLDF design, it should be more compact than the Awesome, for instance. Add in VTR speed, and being terrestrial, one would hope, better agility than the VTR. I think those factors would compensate for some loss of raw firepower. Of course, if they don't fix SRM hit detection (which I can confirm is generally speaking, better...... laid out 1200 and 800 damage matches in my ON1-VA yesterday, and it's prime weapons are 4 ASRM4 backed by a single ac10. But I also had a match where I nailed multiple light mechs with no registered hits. So go figure) it is going to have issues.... but I still love me my Thugs.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:42 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 February 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

Actually, the AWS-8T fits just perfectly. (the only problem is the engine restriction)

The Thug looks cool, but I always found it very underarmed.

If you think thug is underarmed then try Thor prime variant lol.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:52 AM

View PostOdanan, on 15 February 2014 - 02:57 AM, said:

Actually, the AWS-8T fits just perfectly. (the only problem is the engine restriction)

The Thug looks cool, but I always found it very underarmed.

Actually bought the AWS-8T yesterday just for that reason. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...14d4cd66265bb52 Even though the Awesome looks fun it just does not seem the same hence why I want them to add the Thug. Besides 2 PPCs especially ERPPCs can really lay some damage down then when they get close you have 600 (300) damage worth of ASRM missiles, which when they do register really hurts.

View PostJudgeDeathCZ, on 15 February 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

If you think thug is underarmed then try Thor prime variant lol.

I made my Thunderbolt into a jumpless Summoner Prime and it kicks plenty ass and that is without the 15 damage CERPPCs. Just have to know how to use your weapon together.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:14 AM

going thru withdrawals because I haven't used a Summoner since Mw4. that was my go to mech, nothing can replace it. 2 gauss rifles, er large laser. that was the only weapons I ever used on it.Posted Image

Edited by SgtMagor, 15 February 2014 - 10:15 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:25 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 15 February 2014 - 10:14 AM, said:

going thru withdrawals because I haven't used a Summoner since Mw4. that was my go to mech, nothing can replace it. 2 gauss rifles, er large laser. that was the only weapons I ever used on it.Posted Image

ER PPC, Gauss and i believe 2 SSRM6 racks was my go to loadout. But was hard to be totally loyal because...well.... Victor





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