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#11181 Odanan

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 10:11 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 22 October 2015 - 06:19 AM, said:

I was here when MWO tried Repair and Rearm. Earnings on a loss with an XL engine was abysmal. People even reported C-Bill losses with some load outs.

The problem is, is that fun? At the end of the day, a game needs to be fun to maintain a player base.

If R&R was added tomorrow, I'd be fine. I have plenty of days of Premium Time, tons of mechs to play, and a crap ton of C-Bill boosted mechs. Heck, I'd hardly feel a loss and wins would be awesome (especially because I'm sure the economy would see a buff). I'd be doing just fine.

But, would a new player with only 1 or 2 mechs and no boosters be doing fine and having fun? I'm doubting it. They have a string of bad luck, can't fix their mech, haven't earned C-Bills, they are not having fun.

P.S. I also don't see it helping the laser vomit either. If I have to pay for ammo, an ammo-less weapon loadout is looking pretty lucrative.

Some contractors (of merc units) use to pay "reasonable" ammo expenses... (= free ammo)

Edited by Odanan, 23 October 2015 - 05:20 PM.


#11182 WhisksSpatulasAndOrMathequations

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 03:01 PM

What will be the next Mech? I built a Bushwhacker in TinkerCAD and printed it on an XYZ 3D Printer.... It looks silly because I used the TinkerPlay doll/action figure connection system for the joints to allow for them to move and pop apart to change loadouts. So what will it be?
Bushwhacker
Battle Cobra
Fire Scorpion (4 legs)
Sunder
Prometheus
I have designed two of the Fire Scorpions and torso of the Battle Cobra.
Lost interest in the Sunder after almost completing the torso
I designed and printed the lower legs of the Prometheus and was really close to completion of the torso, lost interest when the concept art went from beautiful lower leg to a boxy dry upper leg? Could not figure out the transition.
Really like all of my current mechs. I currently own 273 with 5 extra bays free. Still kicking myself for being an hour late on the top tier Founder's package.
I think my next design will not be based in BattleTech or MWO
Feeling kind of burned out.

What will be the next Mech? I built a Bushwhacker in TinkerCAD and printed it on an XYZ 3D Printer.... It looks silly because I used the TinkerPlay doll/action figure connection system for the joints to allow for them to move and pop apart to change loadouts. So what will it be?
Bushwhacker
Battle Cobra
Fire Scorpion (4 legs)
Sunder
Prometheus
I have designed two of the Fire Scorpions and torso of the Battle Cobra.
Lost interest in the Sunder after almost completing the torso
I designed and printed the lower legs of the Prometheus and was really close to completion of the torso, lost interest when the concept art went from beautiful lower leg to a boxy dry upper leg? Could not figure out the transition.
Really like all of my current mechs. I currently own 273 with 5 extra bays free. Still kicking myself for being an hour late on the top tier Founder's package.
I think my next design will not be based in BattleTech or MWO
Feeling kind of burned out.

#11183 Strum Wealh

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 03:33 PM

View Post717, on 23 October 2015 - 03:01 PM, said:

I built a Bushwhacker in TinkerCAD and printed it on an XYZ 3D Printer...

Rule 32 ("if it can be said, it can be said with a picture") is hereby invoked with regard to the quoted statement... ;)

#11184 wanderer

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 03:42 PM

Honestly, one of the flaws in R&R was that since ammo was so costly and required in large amounts (far more so than TT), you'd see people suffering from running LRMs.

Yes, LRMs. I still have pictures of my ammo costs being 270K for running through about 75% of my ammo.

Lobbing missiles was literally chucking my match rewards at my opponents (who generally had the brains to use lasers, which have zero consumable costs).

#11185 Odanan

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 03:51 AM

Any ideas for a hero Rifleman?
I was thinking about the Legend Killer, Gray Noton's mech, which was used to win several Solaris Championships.

It could have a weapons loadout similar to the Rifleman II, because of the rumors that Norton actually piloted that ancient rare mech. Something like this or this, but with the hardpoints moved, so it would be more different from the Firebrand (and the other Riflemen).

#11186 Karl Streiger

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 02:03 AM

There are not many pilots known to pilot a Rifleman
AFAIK only know Clays Bannockburn and Gentleman Clavell (BWC)
We have already GDL and BWC representative.

So chances are high for Gray Norton, indeed.

Anyhow: the ULTIMATE MECH:
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#11187 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 02:13 AM

what is this mech ? is it real ?

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#11188 TheArisen

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 02:19 AM

View PostTitannium, on 26 October 2015 - 02:13 AM, said:

what is this mech ? is it real ?

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Yes it's real, it's called the Fafnir. 100 tonner, dual heavy gauss. It's out of the timeline by a bit.

#11189 Strum Wealh

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 02:20 AM

View PostTitannium, on 26 October 2015 - 02:13 AM, said:

what is this mech ? is it real ?

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That is the Fafnir, a 'Mech known mainly from its inclusion in MechWarrior 4.

#11190 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:37 AM

View PostTitannium, on 26 October 2015 - 02:13 AM, said:

what is this mech ? is it real ?

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Shins made by Atari :).

This mech is so ugly. I haven't decided if it's cool ugly or just plain ugly. Jury is still out on that :).

#11191 Strum Wealh

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:47 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 26 October 2015 - 03:37 AM, said:

Shins made by Atari :).

This mech is so ugly. I haven't decided if it's cool ugly or just plain ugly. Jury is still out on that :).

You could split it by comparing the MW4 Fafnir model to the canonical Fafnir artwork... ;)

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#11192 Karl Streiger

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:48 AM

although there was a artwork with the cannon fafnir that looked decent (firing its hammerfists)

#11193 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:50 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 26 October 2015 - 03:37 AM, said:



Shins made by Atari :).

This mech is so ugly. I haven't decided if it's cool ugly or just plain ugly. Jury is still out on that :).


Sry, but marauder + warhammer is more ugly then this beauty.

#11194 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:57 AM

View PostTitannium, on 26 October 2015 - 03:50 AM, said:


Sry, but marauder + warhammer is more ugly then this beauty.


Nooo way lol.

I mean, I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I mean...no. :)

P.S. The original Marauder artwork (based on Robotech?) was pretty bad with it's goofy legs and arms in a different time zone than the torso, but I'd still take that over the Fafffffneer..Fafnear...Fafifaf...whatever.




#11195 Davegt27

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 04:00 AM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 26 October 2015 - 02:20 AM, said:


That is the Fafnir, a 'Mech known mainly from its inclusion in MechWarrior 4.




#11196 Odanan

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 04:02 AM

I find the Fafnir cool ugly beautiful.
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Is there something wrong with me?

#11197 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 04:05 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 October 2015 - 04:02 AM, said:

I find the Fafnir cool ugly beautiful.
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Is there something wrong with me?


Well, I'll say this, it looks to be falling over. With that torso design, that seems about right :).

Hey, it's beauty in the eye of the beholder. I get that. At least this pic makes it look more cool ugly :).

#11198 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 04:08 AM

View PostOdanan, on 24 October 2015 - 03:51 AM, said:

Any ideas for a hero Rifleman?
I was thinking about the Legend Killer, Gray Noton's mech, which was used to win several Solaris Championships.

It could have a weapons loadout similar to the Rifleman II, because of the rumors that Norton actually piloted that ancient rare mech. Something like this or this, but with the hardpoints moved, so it would be more different from the Firebrand (and the other Riflemen).

The Legend Killer is another SHUTUPANDTAKEMYMONEY moment from me..... :D

#11199 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 04:51 AM

View PostDavegt27, on 26 October 2015 - 04:00 AM, said:






0:39 oh my GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ! that KODI is sweet looking.

#11200 Karl Streiger

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 05:12 AM

View Postcdlord, on 26 October 2015 - 04:08 AM, said:

The Legend Killer is another SHUTUPANDTAKEMYMONEY moment from me..... :D

lucky for me it is not such a moment for me - this moment will happen only 1 more time :huh: 2 times :(3 times..... Archer,Crusader and Phoenix Hawk....although Archer and Crusader are similar....

uhhhghh Marauder II....Grand Crusader, Warhammer IIC

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Edited by Karl Streiger, 26 October 2015 - 05:15 AM.






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