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#14681 Requiemking

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 06:03 PM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 13 September 2016 - 04:55 PM, said:


Would not know. Though I share the same corridor, while a Nova Cat's fangs bite hard, all a Smoke Jaguar's efforts are akin to is a pleasant breeze. One that one would expect on a tropical beach on a day far sunnier than their typical disposition. Posted Image

Edit: I am rather entertained by the decapitated smoke jaguar icon I have. I find it deliciously ironic. You know... considering the lore.

It is, which is why I will buy myself a Panther 10K, name it Bagheera, paint it black, and start the hunt.

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 04:28 AM

Are you guys enjoying the Night Gyr? Any build suggestions?

#14683 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 04:37 AM

Quad-UAC5 is solid fun. 6x UAC2 is hilarious, too. 2x Gauss, 3x ERMLas, 1 LPlas is downright terrifying, though. As I've said before, I two shotted a Warhammer via front side torso with that thing. Blam, armor obliterated from a 64 point alpha. Blam, death by IS XL. :\

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Edited by Pariah Devalis, 22 September 2016 - 04:37 AM.


#14684 Odanan

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 04:55 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 22 September 2016 - 04:37 AM, said:

Quad-UAC5 is solid fun. 6x UAC2 is hilarious, too. 2x Gauss, 3x ERMLas, 1 LPlas is downright terrifying, though. As I've said before, I two shotted a Warhammer via front side torso with that thing. Blam, armor obliterated from a 64 point alpha. Blam, death by IS XL. :\

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Those are exactly the same builds I did here!
Well, except for that Large Pulse Laser (how the heck you were able to fit it in that build?).

#14685 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:05 AM

One variant has a CT energy hardpoint. :P

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 22 September 2016 - 05:05 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:05 AM

BTW, did you get the Viper, Pariah. What are you running on it?

View PostPariah Devalis, on 22 September 2016 - 05:05 AM, said:

One variant has a CT energy hardpoint. Posted Image

I know, I'm worried about the 7 tons. ;)

#14687 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:06 AM

God no. I viper is an overweight light mech imo. A Pouncer is more my style.

5 tons ammo, and no extra dhs.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 22 September 2016 - 05:07 AM.


#14688 Odanan

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:11 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 22 September 2016 - 05:06 AM, said:

God no. I viper is an overweight light mech imo. A Pouncer is more my style.

5 tons ammo, and no extra dhs.

So say the Ice Ferret pilot... :P

About the Gyr, I suppose you trimmed some armor from the legs too, right?

#14689 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:15 AM

Left it stock leg. I trimmed head to 13, though.

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 05:45 PM

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my 45 minute sketch for the Bushwhacker art contest.

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 07:48 PM

View PostOdanan, on 22 September 2016 - 04:28 AM, said:

Are you guys enjoying the Night Gyr? Any build suggestions?

Nova Gyr (sort of)

#14692 Odanan

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 11:29 PM

View PostUncle Totty, on 23 September 2016 - 07:48 PM, said:


Wow, this looks very hot. :)

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 06:41 AM

View PostOdanan, on 23 September 2016 - 11:29 PM, said:

Wow, this looks very hot. Posted Image

Only on cold maps.Posted Image

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 05:53 PM

With the Early Rewards for the Bushwacker ending, we can expect a new mech in the beginning of next month. A Clan one, I suppose. Your bets?
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#14695 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 08:32 PM

View PostOdanan, on 25 September 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

With the Early Rewards for the Bushwacker ending, we can expect a new mech in the beginning of next month. A Clan one, I suppose. Your bets?
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I'd probably be asking for too much to see so much as the Fire Falcon, let alone the Fire Moth, huh? And it's unlikely so soon to the Viper that PGI would release the Pouncer.

So.... how about another "unknown," then?

Thresher.

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A general use workhorse battlemech. An alternative 60-ton platform to the Mad Dog. Comes with 1B, 2M, and 3E - but being a battlemech one can expect hardpoint inflation. Only one other variant, aside from a futuretech IS Piloted hero, exists, but... well... after the MAD-IIC, who the hell knows if that is even a factor anymore. The one variant that does exist, however, seems to focus on the arm lasers more by upgrading them to ERLLas and turning the UAC10 into an LB5X.



That said, the Glass Spider would be interesting, too. Another 60-ton option, but for ballistics or laser boating, depending on the variant you go with.

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Edited by Pariah Devalis, 25 September 2016 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:05 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 25 September 2016 - 08:32 PM, said:

That said, the Glass Spider would be interesting, too. Another 60-ton option, but for ballistics or laser boating, depending on the variant you go with.

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I'm sorry, but the Glass Spider is worst than the Rifleman IIC in everything.

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:06 AM

View PostOdanan, on 26 September 2016 - 04:05 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but the Glass Spider is worst than the Rifleman IIC in everything.


I figured someone would say that. It's true. It's also a 60-ton mech. As opposed to the... three 65 ton mechs we already have (including the 'backer)? 1. 3. 1. 3. One weight point needs more variety. :\

Well, technically, two heavy weight points do. 60 and 70.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 26 September 2016 - 04:08 AM.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:31 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 26 September 2016 - 04:06 AM, said:

I figured someone would say that. It's true. It's also a 60-ton mech. As opposed to the... three 65 ton mechs we already have (including the 'backer)? 1. 3. 1. 3. One weight point needs more variety. :\

Well, technically, two heavy weight points do. 60 and 70.

So why not a battlemech with 13 weapons hardpoints AND jump jets? Or a very weird ugly duckling omnimech?

But seriously, there aren't many 60 tons options, and that's OK. Mad Dog will do.

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 06:03 AM

I do not want to open a new topic, so I put this here:
Would you pay for Alpha-Lance Reinforcement packs? There are a number of canonical variants for the Alpha Lance Mechs which are possible with MWO. Some of them would be quite different and new, other just would be differently quirked and perhaps given a different HP-inflation. Here is what I have in mind (and why):

Warhammer
WHM-6Rk: the higher base engine rating (350) for much greater speed would allow for a Cavalry Mech.
WHM-7A: the different hardpoint-layout, especially the CT HPs, may be used for a more zombie-like build.

Marauder
MAD-5S: technically it is possible to replicate it with the -3R, however I would like to see ER-PPC and Gauss Rifle quirks to emphasise its long range sniper role. And I think it is a shame that only one MAD so far has PPC quirks...
MAD-3D: again technically possible already, but even modest hardpoint inflation and quirks may turn this into a laser boat without resorting to the super-slow BH.

Archer
ARC-2W: Having (at least) 4 missile HP in the torso plus laser HP in the arms is something I miss.
ARC-2K or ARC-5R: actually a version that would justify laser quirks, but otherwise unremarkable.

Rifleman
RLF-2N: With a combo of PPC and ACs in the arms, plus at least 4 laser HP in the torso, this variants would depend on quirks, especially PPC quirks.
RLF-5M: With UAC/5s being the stock load-out, there would be some quirks for it providing a dedicated UAC dakka build with less jamming.


I am not going to lie, quirks would make or break these packs, with the exception of the Warhammer (and Archer to a lesser degree). But as a Marauder-fan, I would love to get my hands on a properly quirked MAD-5S, and a Rifleman with UACs less prone to jamming would improve the design considerably.
Since the models exist already Alpha Lance Reinforcements should be relatively quick and easy work for PGI. Question is... would I pay for them? I would surely buy the Warhammer and Marauder packs, even for the regular 15$, but I am be a bit more hesitant when it comes to the other two. However I do not totally deny the option.

What about you?

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 06:58 AM

I would bet the Warhammer IIC is next, makes a little more sense after the Marauder IIC. I expect though Rifleman IIC soon though as well. Still hoping Nova Cat and My MkII are not to far off though #2017 lol





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