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[Brody319]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

The question is: are those other excellent is mechs worser than the 9s? is the 9s a uber and needs probably 10 own nerf threads within a week?mI dont think so. The 9s rustles jimmies in cw perfectlyespecially against clans who are used to outrange is weapons- probably thats why

Okay, name one heavy you would rather take over the 9S. I mean seriously, any you would Rather take over the 9S

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Brody319, on 04 January 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Okay, name one heavy you would rather take over the 9S. I mean seriously, any you would Rather take over the 9S

1n

360 rounds ammo.. Ac cooldown 0,7 secs or so. Doing more than 1k dmg on cw matches in short time

19 or so dps hehe

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 05 January 2015 - 12:05 AM.

[pwnface]

Brody319, on 04 January 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Okay, name one heavy you would rather take over the 9S. I mean seriously, any you would Rather take over the 9S

DRG-1N with 420rd of ammo. Yes, I do run out sometimes and my damage for a single DRG-1N is always ridiculous.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

pwnface, on 05 January 2015 - 12:06 AM, said:

DRG-1N with 420rd of ammo. Yes, I do run out sometimes and my damage for a single DRG-1N is always ridiculous.

i bet he ll come up with the take the arm argue..


Some ppl hide and protect their dragon ac arm as if its their eyes

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 05 January 2015 - 12:10 AM.

[Brody319]

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 04 January 2015 - 11:59 PM, said:

1n

360 rounds ammo.. Ac cooldown 0,7 secs or so. Doing more than 1k dmg on cw matches in short time

19 or so dps hehe

pwnface, on 05 January 2015 - 12:06 AM, said:

DRG-1N with 420rd of ammo. Yes, I do run out sometimes and my damage for a single DRG-1N is always ridiculous.

Okay. and how much of your mech do you have to expose to be able to shoot those AC5s?

because This is what the 9S has to expose to deal damage

Edited by Brody319, 05 January 2015 - 12:23 AM.

[pwnface]

Brody319, on 05 January 2015 - 12:13 AM, said:

Okay. and how much of your mech do you have to expose to be able to shoot those AC5s?

Like half ?

[Brody319]

pwnface, on 05 January 2015 - 12:24 AM, said:

Like half ?

So we got the entire torso of the dragon. vs THIS

[ShadowWolf Kell]

pwnface, on 05 January 2015 - 12:24 AM, said:

Like half ?

Should have just linked this instead....

[EvilCow]

Brody319, on 05 January 2015 - 12:25 AM, said:

So we got the entire torso of the dragon. vs THIS

Where is the famous third PPC?

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Brody319, on 05 January 2015 - 12:25 AM, said:

So we got the entire torso of the dragon. vs THIS

Did you read it about the dps? i rarely see thunderpolds play like that. as i stated earlier there are alot really great mech in a line with a 9s but different great. You cant compare every mech 1:1 You cant even aim back when you get shot by the dragon 1 n. Then only 2v1 or 3v1 situations will safe your life

[Vassago Rain]

Brody319, on 04 January 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Okay, name one heavy you would rather take over the 9S. I mean seriously, any you would Rather take over the 9S

An energy based heavy, like the black knight.

But unfortunately, IS doesn't get to have good heavies, so we don't have BKs. The catapult family was my favorite IS heavy until they put VCRs on its ears.

I much prefer the 55 tonners over the 9S, and I was rocking the 9S since it came into the game.

[Brody319]

EvilCow, on 05 January 2015 - 12:28 AM, said:

Where is the famous third PPC?

ThisMachineKillsFascists, on 05 January 2015 - 12:29 AM, said:

Did you read it about the dps? i rarely see thunderpolds play like that. as i stated earlier there are alot really great mech in a line with a 9s but different great. You cant compare every mech 1:1 You cant even aim back when you get shot by the dragon 1 n. Then only 2v1 or 3v1 situations will safe your life

2 ERPPCs
Damage 20 points
Cooldown 4 seconds
Heat 30

After quirks
Damage 20
Cooldown 3
Heat 15.

You just fired 2 PPCs for the heat of 1. Really fair right? almost like that second PPC doesn't exist, just one ppc with double the damage and less cooldown.

Vassago Rain, on 05 January 2015 - 12:32 AM, said:

An energy based heavy, like the black knight.

But unfortunately, IS doesn't get to have good heavies, so we don't have BKs. The catapult family was my favorite IS heavy until they put VCRs on its ears.

I much prefer the 55 tonners over the 9S, and I was rocking the 9S since it came into the game.

Don't get good heavies. Like the Jeager, Cataphract, or the Dragon

Edited by Brody319, 05 January 2015 - 12:34 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

EvilCow, on 05 January 2015 - 12:28 AM, said:

Where is the famous third PPC?

The third PPC, like the 6 PPC stalker, is a myth.

[pwnface]

LOL, I can't believe you found our video.

And yes, the TDR-9S is better sniping mech and doesn't have to reveal much of it's torso to shoot but it has to worry about heat and doesn't do nearly as much damage as a DRG-1N.

In any case, completely different tools for different situations. If the enemy team is storming your base and you need to slow them down, a DRG-1N is going to be much more effective than a TDR-9S. If you are exchanging sniper fire over the gate on Boreal, obviously the TDR-9S is going to be more effective.

[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

pwnface, on 05 January 2015 - 12:35 AM, said:

LOL, I can't believe you found our video.

And yes, the TDR-9S is better sniping mech and doesn't have to reveal much of it's torso to shoot but it has to worry about heat and doesn't do nearly as much damage as a DRG-1N.

In any case, completely different tools for different situations. If the enemy team is storming your base and you need to slow them down, a DRG-1N is going to be much more effective than a TDR-9S. If you are exchanging sniper fire over the gate on Boreal, obviously the TDR-9S is going to be more effective.

Youp differently great..like comparing apples with bananas

Edited by ThisMachineKillsFascists, 05 January 2015 - 12:38 AM.

[kf envy]

this can all be fixed by removing custom mechs from the game an only stock loads

[kapusta11]

Jagermech S (800-2400m range, 30PPFLD, single heat sinks lol)
Stalker 4N (6xLL)
Dragon 1N (Dakkadakka, paint it red for speed boost)

[627]

kf envy, on 05 January 2015 - 01:28 AM, said:

this can all be fixed by removing custom mechs from the game an only stock loads

which of course would help with CW and clans, all equipped with DHS and only a handful IS mechs fielding those.


For the Dragon vid, pretty nice how all mechs come around the corner one after another. Getting focused by three heavy mech kills you fast, no metter which.

Yes the 1N has great quirks, it was the quirkening that made me buy some to complete my IS heavy line up. But you still have to stare the enemy down to shoot it, no torso twist and if you do that in a 1vs1 you often get cored out before.

And one last note on that dragon vid: Dat hit reg I wish half of my shots would reg that much...

Edited by 627, 05 January 2015 - 03:00 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 04 January 2015 - 06:00 PM, said:

I think a lot of people will start using the CPLT-K2 again, because PGI will transfer the TDR-9S quirks to the now obsolete and virtually extinct CPLT-K2, making it the go-to PPC sniper as it should be.


PGI will transfer the TDR-9S quirks to the CPLT-K2.

PGI will transfer its PPC quirks to the CPLT-K2.

Heck, the K2 ain't too bad for that role now. 2 PPCs, 1 A/C 10, and 2 MLasers and your rolling. I wouldn't complain if it got 9S quirks though.

Regardless, I would like it to get PPC velocity quirks of the Vindicator. 20% velocity is nice, but 40% would be nicer .

But, since PGI has proven time and again that it hates the Catapult, I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Mcgral18]

Davers, on 04 January 2015 - 10:08 PM, said:

So did the Thunderbolt. Guess the Dragon will be on the chopping block next.

Brody319, on 05 January 2015 - 12:13 AM, said:

Okay. and how much of your mech do you have to expose to be able to shoot those AC5s?

because This is what the 9S has to expose to deal damage

Because the Tbolt can do that, while the dragon is forced to expose itself.

Have you even used both mechs? Neither of mine are even Elited, but you can tell they are both potent, even at half efficiencies.

Dragon has more weaknesses than the Tbolt, hence better quirks, there are few mechs that Wreck Omega faster than a Dragon, at range. Let alone any jevhs that don't have 800 HP.

This comes at the cost of worse geometry, ammo dependant and XL engines, things the Tbolt mostly avoids.