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#241 CyclonerM

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 05:06 AM

Unless the FRR takes Tamar and your other planet there.. ;)

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 06:07 AM

Well MS takes another wolf planet Kandis. Plus now no IS planets to attack only GB and JF planets

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 07:16 AM

Indeed; sucks that we're stuck at the moment.

Had some good matches against Ghost Bear International and a couple of MercStar operatives last night though.

Edited by Commander A9, 31 January 2015 - 07:17 AM.


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:21 PM

There's zero reason clans should be fighting themselves. You all are fighting over tidbits of contested areas, the IS has an incredible amount of territory to attack and keep.

Clans share a common ethos and playing style. I'm sure if you got to know your JF/GB/SJ counterparts you would actually drop with them quite a bit in non CW.

You chose to be clan as opposed to IS for a reason. Who gives a **** about lore or what some crappy books said?

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:36 PM

View PostNUJRSYDEVIL, on 31 January 2015 - 02:21 PM, said:

There's zero reason clans should be fighting themselves. You all are fighting over tidbits of contested areas, the IS has an incredible amount of territory to attack and keep.

Clans share a common ethos and playing style. I'm sure if you got to know your JF/GB/SJ counterparts you would actually drop with them quite a bit in non CW.

You chose to be clan as opposed to IS for a reason. Who gives a **** about lore or what some crappy books said?


Your whole statement is contradictory. If you do not care about lore, then you would actually be in support of clan infighting during operation revival quiaff? While if you actually cared about lore, then you would support the idea that the clans should march towards Terra and the conquering of the inner sphere instead of fighting each other quiaff?

I think you are confused to what is lore and what is not.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:50 PM

View PostVxheous Kerensky, on 31 January 2015 - 02:36 PM, said:

Your whole statement is contradictory. If you do not care about lore, then you would actually be in support of clan infighting during operation revival quiaff? While if you actually cared about lore, then you would support the idea that the clans should march towards Terra and the conquering of the inner sphere instead of fighting each other quiaff?

I think you are confused to what is lore and what is not.


I'm not going to have a pissing match with someone who has Kerensky in their user handle, that is a lost fight even before it begins.

Frankly, you're either clan or IS and you either want to support one community or the other. If you like to in-fight with each other because you believe there is some glaring difference between Wolf and Bear (the actual people playing the game, not the lore) then I don't know what to tell you.

You chose clan, if you want to go kill clanners go join a IS house. If you want to create a cohesive community then respect your fellow clanners.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 02:50 PM

lol yep I chose to be clan BECAUSE of the "crappy" books and lore. And I fight wolves because you arent doing much else.

so, when you know what you wanted to really say, say it. I'll listen

Seems you still dont get it. Clanners kill the weak, especially their own. Clan wolf are the current weak. So... we want to kill you to remove the embarrassment. Then... we'll get back to smashing the IS.

You cant ask for respect when you havent earned it either. What do we owe you respect for? Fight! Earn it!

I really think its YOU that doesnt get what Clan and IS are meant to be

Edited by Keira RAVEN McKenna, 31 January 2015 - 02:53 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 03:02 PM

View PostNUJRSYDEVIL, on 31 January 2015 - 02:50 PM, said:


I'm not going to have a pissing match with someone who has Kerensky in their user handle, that is a lost fight even before it begins.

Frankly, you're either clan or IS and you either want to support one community or the other. If you like to in-fight with each other because you believe there is some glaring difference between Wolf and Bear (the actual people playing the game, not the lore) then I don't know what to tell you.

You chose clan, if you want to go kill clanners go join a IS house. If you want to create a cohesive community then respect your fellow clanners.


You still do not get it, the lore supports what you actually want (no clan infighting), yet you would go and insult the lore.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 04:34 PM

View PostVxheous Kerensky, on 31 January 2015 - 03:02 PM, said:

You still do not get it, the lore supports what you actually want (no clan infighting), yet you would go and insult the lore.


Clans vs Clans are part of the Lore, but come on. Not during the invasion. Not at that scale!
Not like this!

And now thanks to the works of morons, Our territory is a cluster ****, the whole invasion is pretty much stopped and the best in that [PPC] is that we can't even fight Inner Sphere now thanks to PGI.

I think I'm going to leave CW for a while, and go back to war thunder, World of Tank and the upcoming world of warship.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 04:38 PM

View PostKuroNyra, on 31 January 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:


Clans vs Clans are part of the Lore, but come on. Not during the invasion. Not at that scale!
Not like this!

And now thanks to the works of morons, Our territory is a cluster ****, the whole invasion is pretty much stopped and the best in that [PPC] is that we can't even fight Inner Sphere now thanks to PGI.

I think I'm going to leave CW for a while, and go back to war thunder, World of Tank and the upcoming world of warship.


I do not think you read what I wrote either, what is with the reading comprehension today? I said there is no clan infighting during operation revival (clan invasion for those that do not know lore). Which is current timeline (technically wave 1 of operation revival happens March 3051, but close enough)

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 31 January 2015 - 04:40 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 04:48 PM

View PostVxheous Kerensky, on 31 January 2015 - 04:38 PM, said:

I do not think you read what I wrote either, what is with the reading comprehension today? I said there is no clan infighting during operation revival (clan invasion for those that do not know lore). Which is current timeline (technically wave 1 of operation revival happens March 3051, but close enough)

And you haven't read what I wrote.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 04:53 PM

Blame PGI then. If clans are not supposed to be able to fight each other then clan vs clan planets would not be marked for invasion. Just think of them as Trials of Possession which could still occur during an invasion.

Anyways, CW is just about getting a game before you die of old age. I'll fight where the battle is and not even look at the map until this is out of beta.

#253 Alexander Steel

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 05:04 PM

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There's zero reason clans should be fighting themselves. You all are fighting over tidbits of contested areas, the IS has an incredible amount of territory to attack and keep.


Not true.

1. Fights.

2. Dots on the map.

Hmm... exactly the same reason we have to drop against IS people.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 05:10 PM

View PostNUJRSYDEVIL, on 31 January 2015 - 02:50 PM, said:


I'm not going to have a pissing match with someone who has Kerensky in their user handle, that is a lost fight even before it begins.

Frankly, you're either clan or IS and you either want to support one community or the other. If you like to in-fight with each other because you believe there is some glaring difference between Wolf and Bear (the actual people playing the game, not the lore) then I don't know what to tell you.

You chose clan, if you want to go kill clanners go join a IS house. If you want to create a cohesive community then respect your fellow clanners.


Respect is earned...not given. Very few have earned my respect at this point, and some that had earned it previously have lost it through recent actions.

If you are treated with disrespect, then it is fair game to return the favor.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 06:01 PM

Looks like the talks were a waste of time. If as a faction we wish to move forward in CW now our only option is through Ghost Bear with the way the last 2 days have gone with attack routes.

Edited by Kain Thul, 31 January 2015 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2015 - 06:12 PM



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Posted 31 January 2015 - 07:00 PM



#258 Keira RAVEN McKenna

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 08:57 PM

View PostKuroNyra, on 31 January 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:


Clans vs Clans are part of the Lore, but come on. Not during the invasion. Not at that scale!
Not like this!

And now thanks to the works of morons, Our territory is a cluster ****, the whole invasion is pretty much stopped and the best in that [PPC] is that we can't even fight Inner Sphere now thanks to PGI.

I think I'm going to leave CW for a while, and go back to war thunder, World of Tank and the upcoming world of warship.

hahahaha I look forward to shooting you down with luck in Warthunder!

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 09:05 PM

a litle lore for you as at 3050...

Following the death of ilKhan Leo Showers over Radstadt in 3050, "reserve" Clans Steel Viper and Nova Cat were added ostensibly to "aid" the efforts of Clans Jade Falcon and Smoke Jaguar, while a seventh Clan, Clan Diamond Shark, did not mobilize in time to "aid" Clan Ghost Bear. However, the additions of these reserve Clans were actually meant to hinder the progress by Clan Wolf's rivals, a machination by newly-elected ilKhan Ulric Kerensky of Clan Wolf. In fact, Clans Steel Viper and Nova Cat were intentionally assigned to invasion corridors already assigned to bitter rivals.

In another machination by ilKhan Ulric, the Clans "revealed" the ultimate goal of the Clan Invasion to ComStar in 3051 - Terra, ComStar's home. The rationale behind the Terran conquest was simple - the Clan capable of successfully conquering mankind's home world would become the ilClan, the Clan which would guide/control the creation of the new Star League. IlKhan Ulric (a Warden) gambled that ComStar would not stand idly while Terra was conquered. While the less sophisticated armies of the Successor Lords could not stop the Clans for some time, Ulric hoped either the more sophisticated Com Guards would halt the Clan invasion (or ensure Clan Wolf would become the ilClan). In either eventuality, Ulric's Warden stance would become ascendant.


In short... did the Clans play nice with each other during Operation Revival? Hell no! Even the Home Clans were up to shite and fighting.

The ultimate goal is to be the first among Clans upon reaching Terra, The ilclan. No way would you hesitate to trip up a rival clan to help your own cause.

Even the Falcons and the Ravens end up feuding at this time after Falcon scientists mess with McKenna bloodline material and the Ravens strand them by pulling their Warship transport contracts in retaliation.

Political intrigue... wonderful stuff!

Edited by Keira RAVEN McKenna, 31 January 2015 - 09:15 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2015 - 02:37 AM

View PostKeira RAVEN McKenna, on 31 January 2015 - 08:57 PM, said:

hahahaha I look forward to shooting you down with luck in Warthunder!

Good luck, the three last who tried to get me had a nasty surprise, and there relation with the ground were very intimate. ;p



View PostKeira RAVEN McKenna, on 31 January 2015 - 09:05 PM, said:

a litle lore for you as at 3050...

Following the death of ilKhan Leo Showers over Radstadt in 3050, "reserve" Clans Steel Viper and Nova Cat were added ostensibly to "aid" the efforts of Clans Jade Falcon and Smoke Jaguar, while a seventh Clan, Clan Diamond Shark, did not mobilize in time to "aid" Clan Ghost Bear. However, the additions of these reserve Clans were actually meant to hinder the progress by Clan Wolf's rivals, a machination by newly-elected ilKhan Ulric Kerensky of Clan Wolf. In fact, Clans Steel Viper and Nova Cat were intentionally assigned to invasion corridors already assigned to bitter rivals.

In another machination by ilKhan Ulric, the Clans "revealed" the ultimate goal of the Clan Invasion to ComStar in 3051 - Terra, ComStar's home. The rationale behind the Terran conquest was simple - the Clan capable of successfully conquering mankind's home world would become the ilClan, the Clan which would guide/control the creation of the new Star League. IlKhan Ulric (a Warden) gambled that ComStar would not stand idly while Terra was conquered. While the less sophisticated armies of the Successor Lords could not stop the Clans for some time, Ulric hoped either the more sophisticated Com Guards would halt the Clan invasion (or ensure Clan Wolf would become the ilClan). In either eventuality, Ulric's Warden stance would become ascendant.


In short... did the Clans play nice with each other during Operation Revival? Hell no! Even the Home Clans were up to shite and fighting.

The ultimate goal is to be the first among Clans upon reaching Terra, The ilclan. No way would you hesitate to trip up a rival clan to help your own cause.

Even the Falcons and the Ravens end up feuding at this time after Falcon scientists mess with McKenna bloodline material and the Ravens strand them by pulling their Warship transport contracts in retaliation.

Political intrigue... wonderful stuff!


You forget one thing, conquest of Terra or Capital world ain't possible. Even if you reach Terra, you will never be able to claim it as yours since it will not be part of your clan on the map. :P

There is Lore, and there is Lore.
Here, we are the Clans fighting the Inner Sphere, but the main goal is to have fun. NOT pissing off everybody and theres mums.


We attack the Inner Sphere, trying to get territory, but it should not be by kicking eachothers in the balls and acting like douchebags. It should not be by childish way like that.


But apparently, some guys like to take a Lore and use only the bad things of it.

Edited by KuroNyra, 01 February 2015 - 02:41 AM.






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