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[Haydin]

Adridos, on 11 July 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

I've proven it by showing that you perfectly fit the desription of a furry.

It's your turn to somehow prove me wrong.

So this picture by flyingdebris (he does a ton of the official art for battletech) is extremely relevant to the current discussion. Please take note of the giant pipe:

Edited by Haydin, 11 July 2012 - 03:48 AM.

[Exilyth]

Someone mentioned bushido only applies to Japan.
This is true in so far as we don't have to care as much about personal honor.
Unless it could lead to a loss of face.

[Beazle]

Exilyth, on 11 July 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Someone mentioned bushido only applies to Japan.
This is true in so far as we don't have to care as much about personal honor.
Unless it could lead to a loss of face.

I have no desire to suffer a loss of face.

Therefore, I am invoking my Executive Powers as Head Beazle of All Things Related to Beazle's Face to outlaw "bath salts" within the borders of the Capellan Confederation.

Now, as far as the main topic of this thread goes:

I don't think wanting to represent the Tatatae in a BT universe game makes you a furry. Admittedly, this is open to some debate as the exact definition of "furry" can be debated. Personally, I've always considered a core component of it's definition to be the desire to participate with or observe creatures with humanoid characteristics doing things that are not "family friendly" (a curious term considering said acts are the root cause of families).

If all they're doing is talking about blowing up Giant Space Robots, then I don't see how they fit that criteria.

Of course, all this is just the opinion of a kitten-shooting robosexual, so take it for what it's worth

[grimzod]

IMTatsu, on 29 June 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

There's been considerable activity in other forums, so I thought I'd bring it here.

From the beginning of time, in as much as it relates to us here, we have followed the Honor Code of mech combat, primarily defined as:
1. No Heading
2. No Legging
3. No Unnecessary Beatdown of an Incapacitated Foe.

With the potential massive influx of the new 'Pepsi Generation', they're understanding is 'Play to Win'. Every rule of warfare they've ever been subjected to up to this point is 'By Any Means Necessary'

Battletech purists would argue that the most effective method of mech combat completely contradicts the Honor Code we have traditionally clung to. If the game employs salvage rules, this is going to be an even more important topic.

Here it is gang. What do you think?

We'll be outnumbered ten to one in faction warfare and you want to hobble yourself.....I won't. Heading and Legging - hello! DFA on a downed or shutdown opponent - oh yes!

And birds aren't furries.

Edited by grimzod, 13 July 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[Bastard Ken]

Adridos, on 11 July 2012 - 01:11 AM, said:

I've proven it by showing that you perfectly fit the desription of a furry.

It's your turn to somehow prove me wrong.

I dispute that you have done so. Please provide concrete evidence rather than disingenuous assertions.

[Adridos]

******* Ken, on 13 July 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

I dispute that you have done so. Please provide concrete evidence rather than disingenuous assertions.

Your behavior (yes, I'm talking in plural) exactly matches the definition of a furry.

If that's not evidence for you, then tell me what the Sun is? It matches the definition of a star, but since you don't take definitions as evidence, you must believe it's something else... a giant glowing feather ball, maybe?

[Bastard Ken]

What behavior? What definition? Please elaborate, you keep saying words but that does not make things true.

To stay on Bushido topic, a little something from that masterpiece of modern philosophical cinema, Ghost Dog 3: Ghost Cat:

Quote

Whenever you cross swords with an enemy you must not think of cutting him either strongly or weakly; just think of cutting and killing him. Be intent solely on killing the enemy. Do not try to cut strongly and, of course, do not think of cutting weakly. You should only be concerned with killing the enemy.

[Marketh]

Seeing we don't have salvage to worry about
let us humiliate and shame our foes for their poor piloting skills
let us blast apart their weapons and ammo cache
let us cripple their legs and leave them standing in their mechs
immobile and impotent
and when the battle is done
return and headshot them

(;

[Tote]

from my view,, yes,, there is going to be a LOT of new people and "un-aware" gamers" that are goign to come in with a "What The Flack Is This Slag?!" syndrome and jsut aim for gettign as many kills as possble, and even then,, can you really say you yourself would obey these rules when you jsut want to make a few casual rounds for the fun of it.

untill theres an honest way to prevent this such as a group vs group agreement, of anysort of mech bushido, chivalry, Zellbrigen if you like. the thought is rather useless. this isn't goign to be some sort of romantisized romeo and juliet duel,, it's gonna be an outright slaugher, and slug fest for everything you can get your cheeto's stained hands on unless your willign to dump some micro payments in on it.

use honor,, get killed, use you gun first, get gold and possibly killed.

one thing to rememeber though is ,, don't be a sore looser, and dont be a douchbag winner, its just a game, and it's not gonna affect your real life.

if there IS a code of bushido ment for a game like this i beleive it would be this:

"If you find yourself in a sudden rain do not run to cover, you will still get wet, as long as you accept that fact, you will not suffer."

Bring the rain guys, Bring the rain.

And on the subject of "furry" let the guy be himself, if' he's not hurting anyone with it, theres no poblem, it's jsut a hobby. and off topic.

Edited by Tote, 14 July 2012 - 03:59 AM.

[Vyviel]

As per the lore Kurita and Liao have no honor and are super sneaky and scumbags.

If you want Honor you need to stick with the clans as they have a strong code of honor. Though after finding the Houses didnt follow any of the rules they considered them Barbarians and stopped trying to be honorable in combat vs the IS =P

[Duncan Aravain]

Enemies of The People should be crushed in the most economical and expeditious manner so that the State's resources in manpower and resources are preserved for future Liao generations.

[Adridos]

Vyviel, on 14 July 2012 - 04:16 AM, said:

As per the lore Kurita and Liao have no honor and are super sneaky and scumbags.

We both have honour.

Our honour is in the protection of our beloved state and giving our life everyday so our families can live in peace.

Kuritans have honour, too. Otherwise, they wouldn't all commit a sepuku once they followed an order to slaughter a whole planet.

[Moffmalthus]

I completly agree Adrios, with a Kurita its always more about personal honor while a Liao is more loyal to the state as a whole and will do almost anything to preserve the CC.

[Wolfgang Von Schmuck]

Balls of Steele, on 29 June 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

“This isn’t dueling pistols at dawn, this is war. You never wanna fight fair. You wanna sneak up behind your enemy and club him over the head.”

- Kara "Starbuck" Thrace

We're fighting within a civilisation that had no qualms about glassing entire planets, I doubt anyone will call foul for legging or heading.

and this is why i love battletech: 'not only do i not like you, i don't like you're way of life, but what i really don't like, is that you're citizens are squatting on MY planet without paying taxes. (turns to nearest gunnery officer) how long would it take to turn their largests cities to puddles of molten steel and glass? (gunnery officer looks at his console, counts on fingers and mumbles to self) about 20 miniutes: 5 if i can get you to sign for it my Lord. but then again, nukes are expensive, Asteroids on the other hand, are cheap.
nukes? who needs em? i drop asteroids on ur citiez!

[Scabrous]

Wolfgang Von *******, on 14 July 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:

and this is why i love battletech: 'not only do i not like you, i don't like you're way of life, but what i really don't like, is that you're citizens are squatting on MY planet without paying taxes. (turns to nearest gunnery officer) how long would it take to turn their largests cities to puddles of molten steel and glass? (gunnery officer looks at his console, counts on fingers and mumbles to self) about 20 miniutes: 5 if i can get you to sign for it my Lord. but then again, nukes are expensive, Asteroids on the other hand, are cheap.
nukes? who needs em? i drop asteroids on ur citiez!

Rocks are not free citizen.

Edited by Scabrous, 14 July 2012 - 02:43 PM.

[Rayspace]

If you take the field of battle you had better be prepared to be shot. In the head, the leg, and anywhere else the enemy can hit you. If you are in the field you had better be willing to shoot the head, the leg, and anything else you can to win the fight. A duel is not a battle or war. It is a stylized meeting of two opponents for a variety of possible reasons that may be as complex as Honor and as simple as vengeance. What you agree to with another warrior is a bit different from fighting a war. I will shoot your leg, your head, and anything else I can to defeat you. Carrying out one's mission is not dishonorable.

Edited by Harusee, 14 July 2012 - 02:52 PM.

[Kyzar Kon]

Honor is for men.
Treachtry is for devils.
War is Hell...



... who reigns there?

Edited by Kaiser R Metzger, 15 July 2012 - 12:47 PM.

[Beazle]

Kaiser R Metzger, on 15 July 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Honor is for men.
Treachtry is for devils.
War is Hell...



... who reigns there?

The IRS.

[JackDeth]

As proclaimed by a very old and trusted General...You don't win a war by dying for your country...you win by making the other poor ******* die for his!
I have seen combat in too many areas to count (good thing my memory is fading).
In every instance...I did my best to uphold the idea of making the other side do the dying.
For almost 40 years in service...it worked for me.
Rules....only one...come back alive with tales to tell.
Jack

[Chuggernaut]

A "dirty trick" is just what a loser calls "exploiting your opponent's stupidity."