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[Brody319]

Can I have what you guys are smoking?

[waterfowl]

will you even want to play it in 20 years? Probably not. There will probably be a better mechwarrior game out by then

[Brody319]

waterfowl, on 23 February 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

will you even want to play it in 20 years? Probably not. There will probably be a better mechwarrior game out by then

hahahaha

[General Taskeen]

Inevitably the game will shut down, whether its 1, 3, or 5 years, whatever. It just will, that's cool to people that get fun out of it I guess. That's their business, their money to spend.

For me though, the game needs to survive the test of time in the long run. Unless PGI were to develop dedicated servers (which would require reversing the code they piled onto the game) at the end of the game's life time, then everything is gone and kaputt. It is still possible to play MW2 Multiplayer via NetMech, and that is amazing because it is preserved for gaming history hopefully for decades to come. It is still possible to play MW4 via GameRanger. None of that would be possible if dedicated server multiplayer support wasn't a thing back then. I still play those games too. Matchmaking games and f2p have introduced the concept of always early access games, the total annihilation of modding (pay for skins now), etc. That doesn't sit right with me.

[waterfowl]

Brody319, on 23 February 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:

hahahaha

hahahahahahahahha

[PappySmurf]

Taskeen ( It is still possible to play MW4 via GameRanger)

I might just go back to playing MechWarrior4 on Game ranger again Im sure some of the old guard like Cmeg and CYT are still over there.
????????? still using the Mektek Mod?????????????

Its really too bad the devs wont let us help them with MWO development and when important topic or posts are made about MWO from so many dedicated fans they are ignored in favor of there small inner circle group of meta crony's.

Edited by PappySmurf, 23 February 2015 - 02:29 PM.

[Metus regem]

PappySmurf, on 23 February 2015 - 02:28 PM, said:

Taskeen ( It is still possible to play MW4 via GameRanger)

I might just go back to playing MechWarrior4 on Game ranger again Im sure some of the old guard like Cmeg and CYT are still over there.
????????? still using the Mektek Mod?????????????

Its really too bad the devs wont let us help them with MWO development and when important topic or posts are made about MWO from so many dedicated fans they are ignored in favor of there small inner circle group of meta crony's.

You mean NGNG gang?

[Kain Demos]

waterfowl, on 23 February 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

will you even want to play it in 20 years? Probably not. There will probably be a better mechwarrior game out by then

I still play MW4: Mercenaries at least 1 playthrough per year. What is it now, 12 years?

[GenghisJr]

Alistair Winter, on 23 February 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

For me, the uncertain longevity of the game is a major reason why I hesitate to spend more money. By the time Wave 3 is delivered, the game will almost be 3 years old. You're paying as much for the Gladiator pack as for 2 complete, brand new a-level games with both single player and multiplayer. And while not all those games let you play multiplayer with friends without needing public company-owned servers, you will at least have that single player bit forever. I can play through the Mass Effect trilogy 50 years from now, though I may have trouble finding other people who are still interested in the Mass Effect multiplayer bit. I can still play Mechwarrior 2, I can still play Diablo 2, I can still play Theme Hospital, I can still play Master of Orion, I can still play Little Big Adventure.

With MWO, we're paying to rent mechs. When PGI decides to shut down the MWO servers, the game is over. And your vast mechbay with 200 mechs with custom camo, cockpit items, C-bill bonuses, and modules.... it's gone. You'll have nothing left to show for it, except your screenshots.

That's the stuff that bothers me, right now. I'm uncomfortable with sinking more money into an aging game without owning the rights to play anything at all. Without PGI keeping the game alive, I can't even look at my mechs in the mechbay.

I don't just want to rent the permission to play with PGI's mechs, for hundreds of dollars, untill they decide to pull the plug.

I'd like to own... something.

I wouldnt be to concerned, at some stage in the future if a decision was made about the future of the game then it would be an asset that has a resale value to a purchaser who would be interested in growing it further.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Its easily one of the best 10 tactical MMOs currently in business. Why would you think it won't have longevity?

Edited by MechWarrior5152251, 23 February 2015 - 02:51 PM.

[GenghisJr]

waterfowl, on 23 February 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

will you even want to play it in 20 years? Probably not. There will probably be a better mechwarrior game out by then

I thought this was the try-outs for when microsoft/google/ and fb release real mechs to conquer the physical world as well as the cyber world?

[Fragnot]

Alistair Winter, on 23 February 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

With MWO, we're paying to rent mechs. When PGI decides to shut down the MWO servers, the game is over. And your vast mechbay with 200 mechs with custom camo, cockpit items, C-bill bonuses, and modules.... it's gone. You'll have nothing left to show for it, except your screenshots.

I'd like to own... something.

Same deal with property tax, you never really own your house either. Sucks.

TERRIB AL, on 23 February 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

As i understand it, PGI are not allowed to sell or distribute mech likenesses in any media form but the game itself.

That's posters, t-shirts, miniatures etc. all out of the question, due to license restrictions.

Boy I wish they could make miniatures, the 'Mech models is one thing PGI knocked out of the park IMO. I played lots of TT games over the years (40k, BB, Necromunda, D&D) and when I discovered MWO I thought "man how come I never played Battletech TT?!?!". Then I looked up some of the old models and realized why; they were lame as hell. If I could get the PGI versions of these 'Mechs as TT miniatures I'd bust out the paints again.

Edited by Fragnot, 23 February 2015 - 03:42 PM.

[Destructicus]

I share the same fears
I've felt the sting with Hawken (Hey! Remember that game?)
I spent a decent amount of money on it and now I have nothing.

No update in what will soon be a year and Meteor has closed it's doors.
Forums are gone and now the servers can go offline any day.

The one thing MWO has over Hawken is that it has a strong legacy and a larger following with people who care more about it.
I very much doubt MWO will go the way of Hawken anytime soon, but I do worry PGI may lose interest at some point.
Those fears came to life when Transverse was announced and I was almost certain MWO was done and PGI was moving on to "Not Star Citizen", but once the crowdfunding failed and Bryan effectively vanished to go play with his space sim, those fears were laid to rest.

I'm sure MWO will be around for awhile and if I get another couple of years with this game I'll be happy, just as long as they keep trying to keep afloat.

[Xetelian]

Ascaloth, on 23 February 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

Mechs are so expensive that PGI should send us miniatures to use on tabletop everytime we buy one with real money or MCs. At least we would have something "real" for the money spent.

I'm with this guy, I'd have so many new pets! pets...yes my preciouses...

[Kotev]

I understand the OP logic and respect it, but mine is that i play for fun-recreation i go to bar-restaurant for the same thing at minimum 50-100$ a night so if i skip one or two bars i can support the game.

GG for Theme Hospital
GG for Natalie!

[Brody319]

You gotta talk to the owners of the Battletech license if you want miniatures, I'm sure PGI would be happy to offer some real life material if they had the rights.

probably just T-shirts at first.

[Lulz Kev]

If PGI ever pulls the plug on MWO...

I hope they make all the game content free to the public to host their own servers.

[Ovion]

Ascaloth, on 23 February 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

Mechs are so expensive that PGI should send us miniatures to use on tabletop everytime we buy one with real money or MCs. At least we would have something "real" for the money spent.

Jaeger Gonzo, on 23 February 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

That actually is one great idea.

No it's not - and here's why.

If you go to buy actual Tabletop models, you're looking at £5-10 per mech.

I recently bought a Locust (£5.50), Urbanmech (£5.50) and Mad Dog (£6.75 - but it was the old sculpt, the new one is £8.25)
Then I had to pay £6 postage on top (also got a Rulebook with it, I think it would have been £3 without).

I want to get a Cauldron Born, Centurion and Raven next. Possibly a Long Tom Artillery Truck too.
Those 4 models will run me £30.
If I go for the 4 pack that has a Raven, Centurion, Jagermech and Atlas, it'll be £38.50, but I'll have a second Jager and 4th Atlas for my trouble.

Yes, I'll get to keep these forever, but to send us a model of each mech we buy, would add US$10-15 +P&P to each package level.
(Which honestly, I would be perfectly OK with paying.)

As is, we have permission from PGI to use the MWO models to create 3D prints from (so long as we don't sell them).
This is precisely what I intend to do with many, (if not all) the beautiful models from MWO.
Print them on 32mm Hex Bases in 1:285 (6mm) scale, then my favourites (a couple of Locusts, probably some others) in larger scales.
Probably in 1:56 (28mm) scale. (making the locust stand around 160mm tall at this scale).
Looking forward to it.

Heffay, on 23 February 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:

I'll always have the game files. As long as those exist, there will always be twerking robots in our future.

This both makes me smile, and scares me immensely.

Metus regem, on 23 February 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

that'd be one big ass printer... then again, you could do it in segments.... just turn it in to a giant lego kit... That gives me an idea for a freaking awesome sim-pit....

Tobad my wife wouldn't let me do it....

Ay. You'd also be better off / spend less crafting it by hand.

If / when I make my work/play-pod down the line (aircon controlled 3-5 monitor, Wacom screen and haptic pen for CAD work, joysticks, pedals, closing doors, leather and adjustable everything, etc), it's going to be hand crafted from wood and steel.
Far faster and cheaper.

[Bigbacon]

i haven't had this much fun in a MP game since BF2142 and I spent every waking moment on that game. I had two copies of it, it got me a moderator status on the EA forums, hell, it even got me a free trip to EA HQ in CA to play bad company 1 before anyone else. 100 dollars well spent on two copies of it plus the enjoyment of the friends I made playing it.

i've spent over that in this so far. If I wasn't having fun, I'd stop spending.

[Fragnot]

DTF Kev, on 23 February 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:

If PGI ever pulls the plug on MWO...

I hope they make all the game content free to the public to host their own servers.

May not be their option to allow it considering the Battletech IP which I assume is licensed to them, for how long I don't know.

I enjoyed playing Warhammer Online and that game got shut down once their 5yr license deal ran out. There were some privately run servers for the game but they got shut down also due to legal action by GW, the IP owner.