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[monk]

Most matches I think it has a moderate value, but in many cases it's been used effectively and made significant impact on the outcome of the match. I think over time certain members of the community will start to gain confidence and participate more in the VOIP chatter. I'm quite happy it's in there. I'd love the bitrate to be a higher, but most of the people using it can be understood. That said, there really should be a simple test feature in the options where you can record your own voice for a few seconds and hear what you sound like. It's crazy not to have that. I'd imagine that a lot of the people who sound like crap simply have no idea their mic is working so poorly.

[xWiredx]

Flash Frame, on 24 March 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

Things I've seen on VOIP more than it being useful:
Insults
multiple people attempting to "Take charge" then blaming everyone for not listening.
An entire unit who constantly said "Bababui" over it.
Conversations that do not pertain to the match in any capacity.
Complaints over one's weapon loadout.
Stuck mic brodcasting music.

You know, all the problems that those of us who opposed VOIP said would happen.

That being said, I HAVE seen VOIP be utilize in a way that has been an asset. But it's honestly more rare than it being a hindrance.

Have you never played any other online game with voip? The MWO crowd so far is vastly more mature and useful than the angsty teens on Xbox Live/PSN.

[Kjudoon]

So...

This is as good as it gets for VOIP???

I'll need to stick to our private TS where we ban people for cussing and other code of honor violating behavior.

[Sorbic]

I hear people using about every second or third game. One problem we have at the moment is so many people never gave it a chance and turned it off right away. I can't count the number of git's I've tried to warn of X, Y or Z only to find out they have it disabled. Some folks do it because of an already strained connection/PC while others focus on the rare fools abusing it and act like that's the norm. I myself have played with no sound on many occasions because I was busy talking to someone on the phone or whatnot.

Overall I feel the game is better for it but it still needs work.

[Novakaine]

Sadly I think, most of us are self adsorbed antisocial gits.
I think most haven't even bother to turn it on.
But the times I've been in matches with others who used, it was an absolute success.
Most times I just see STFU typed on my screen, for no other reason than trying to coordinate the lemmings.
Upon which I nicely encourage them to go die first and fast.
But at least take one enemy mech with them.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

xWiredx, on 24 March 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

Have you never played any other online game with voip? The MWO crowd so far is vastly more mature and useful than the angsty teens on Xbox Live/PSN.

I played plenty in X-box Live. CoD, Halo, Chromehounds...

You know what we did... we formed party's... which is, basically, utilizing Team Speak on your own. Screw the public chat, because it's all toxic people calling you every name under the sun because it's the "cool" thing to do.

In the case of Chromehounds, voice chat was only between teammates anyway, and teammates were formed in a pre-made unit ANYWAY. so you didn't have to worry about such toxic behavior. To play the game you literally had to be a premade, or playing 1v1 or bot matches.

[Dimento Graven]

Jimmy Page, on 24 March 2015 - 02:55 AM, said:

For years all the puggers screamed about how they need VOIP to be successful in MWO. That teams were OP and that they refuse to try to use Team Speak for coordination. PGI finally delivers......and no one uses it! I hear someone speak every 10 games or so. This was essentially a waste of resources implementing it. Just like 3pv. Opinions?

the actual issue for me is how inconsistantly it works. I try and use it and the mic never works. Trying default, and then specifying the device. It only seems to work about 10%.

[FETTY WAP]

I've only started playing again this week after a few months break or so, and I constantly hear people warning of where the enemy is. I also do this myself, as well as other small bits of info (UAV up, x is cored, etc.)

[Xetelian]

VOIP is one of the better things to happen with this game. I know from my experience alone I can't give you real workable data but I like it and use it.

[Hayashi]

Normally it's silent until I speak, then once I do additional voices start chiming in. Mech locations, damaged components, etc.

My push to talk key activates both TeamSpeak and MWO VoIP, so the same information goes to both the group I'm dropping with and the groups/pugs that got thrown into the same match.

[charov]

VOIP could see much more use, but sometimes I find someone willing to help and guide the team (pugs especially) and he uses the VOIP.

I use it myself because I can't type and move my mech (throttle, pedals and track IR here ) and because saying "Mike, Atlas, at Echo Four" is faster than typing it.

[Dahnyol]

Just read these replies..

Novakaine, on 24 March 2015 - 08:26 PM, said:

Sadly I think, most of us are self adsorbed antisocial gits.
I think most haven't even bother to turn it on.
But the times I've been in matches with others who used, it was an absolute success.
Most times I just see STFU typed on my screen, for no other reason than trying to coordinate the lemmings.
Upon which I nicely encourage them to go die first and fast.
But at least take one enemy mech with them.

Kjudoon, on 24 March 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

So...

This is as good as it gets for VOIP???

I'll need to stick to our private TS where we ban people for cussing and other code of honor violating behavior.

Flash Frame, on 24 March 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

Things I've seen on VOIP more than it being useful:
Insults
multiple people attempting to "Take charge" then blaming everyone for not listening.
An entire unit who constantly said "Bababui" over it.
Conversations that do not pertain to the match in any capacity.
Complaints over one's weapon loadout.
Stuck mic brodcasting music.

You know, all the problems that those of us who opposed VOIP said would happen.

That being said, I HAVE seen VOIP be utilize in a way that has been an asset. But it's honestly more rare than it being a hindrance.

badaa, on 24 March 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

Replying to Voip Is A Failure, Or The Player Base Is. .... both

luigi256, on 24 March 2015 - 06:42 PM, said:

I prefer using Teamspeak where it is clear what people are saying.

Are you arguing it should be taken out? Most of you are saying you aren't using it anyway, then why are you in here talking about use of it when you don't use it? You can mute it, most of you do. So why are you even here though? Just to say "I had bad experiences and I don't like it so I don't use it, see I told you so" - ok? Thanks? Why do you ignore all the good stories of VOIP ? So it didn't help you, but helped these other people why do you want to deprive them of that? Isn't helping some people better than helping no people? You use teamspeak anyway right? Why deprive the rest of us?

Can I get a real answer?

Resources? Are you serious? Used elsewhere? Where? Redoing the new paint camo for you to buy?

[Taffer]

The voice quality is really bad. Like underwater police radios on the moon, or something. Point is it's hard to make out what I'm hearing. The voip is not helping if I can't understand what people are saying.

There's also the ridiculous range of volumes I've heard. Wow. Some people are so ******* loud that I have to turn my game down, but then I can't hear everybody else! And some people are so quiet that I don't hear them at all. Names show up as if people are talking, but I don't hear anything. The game could really use a sort of playback test in the options so these people can hear what they sound like.

I feel like you can't have voice quality this terrible in 2015. Come on.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Dahnyol, on 24 March 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

Just read these replies..






Are you arguing it should be taken out? Most of you are saying you aren't using it anyway, then why are you in here talking about use of it when you don't use it? You can mute it, most of you do. So why are you even here though? Just to say "I had bad experiences and I don't like it so I don't use it, see I told you so" - ok? Thanks? Why do you ignore all the good stories of VOIP ? So it didn't help you, but helped these other people why do you want to deprive them of that? Isn't helping some people better than helping no people? You use teamspeak anyway right? Why deprive the rest of us?

Can I get a real answer?

Resources? Are you serious? Used elsewhere? Where? Redoing the new paint camo for you to buy?

I'd ignore it, if there wasn't that 1 time out of 10 that it's actually helpful. And it's ESPECIALLY helpful in co-ordinating with teammates in CW when you're not a full 12 man.

I'm not saying remove it, I'm saying that, since it's in now, might as well IMPROVE it. The codec it's using is terrible, and most everyone sounds like crap when they use it. With some people it's so bad you literally cannot understand them. [some people are like this anyway, but still, the point stands.]

Now it WAS something that, initially before implimentation, you could consider it a waste of resources, and I'm illistrating the fact that, well. "I told you so" as it were in regards to how it's being abused more than it's being helpful. and I'm not the only person that had said as much.

But if we're going to have VOIP, it may as well be a damned good version that's worth using...instead, we got bare bones...

[AThousandD]

Flash Frame, on 24 March 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

Things I've seen on VOIP more than it being useful:
Insults
multiple people attempting to "Take charge" then blaming everyone for not listening.
An entire unit who constantly said "Bababui" over it.
Conversations that do not pertain to the match in any capacity.
Complaints over one's weapon loadout.
Stuck mic brodcasting music.

You know, all the problems that those of us who opposed VOIP said would happen.

Kind Sir, I am terribly sorry, but

WHAT A LOAD OF BALONEY YOU'VE BLOWN OUT OF YOUR POSTERIOR

I've played group/solo with all kinds of people and the situations you've described are so rare (music I've not yet even heard at all; also consider the sounds you may consider unintelligible may actually be a language that you simply don't speak) that if anything you wrote is true, then we must be playing the game in parallel worlds.

That is all, have a good day.

[Kilo 40]

Dahnyol, on 24 March 2015 - 10:39 PM, said:

Just read these replies..






Are you arguing it should be taken out? Most of you are saying you aren't using it anyway, then why are you in here talking about use of it when you don't use it? You can mute it, most of you do. So why are you even here though? Just to say "I had bad experiences and I don't like it so I don't use it, see I told you so" - ok? Thanks? Why do you ignore all the good stories of VOIP ? So it didn't help you, but helped these other people why do you want to deprive them of that? Isn't helping some people better than helping no people? You use teamspeak anyway right? Why deprive the rest of us?

Can I get a real answer?

Resources? Are you serious? Used elsewhere? Where? Redoing the new paint camo for you to buy?

you have to understand, many of these people are the ones who didn't want it in the first place. So of course they are going to nitpick it to death after it's in.

[Taffer]

AThousandD, on 24 March 2015 - 11:43 PM, said:

Kind Sir, I am terribly sorry, but

WHAT A LOAD OF BALONEY YOU'VE BLOWN OUT OF YOUR POSTERIOR

I've played group/solo with all kinds of people and the situations you've described are so rare (music I've not yet even heard at all; also consider the sounds you may consider unintelligible may actually be a language that you simply don't speak) that if anything you wrote is true, then we must be playing the game in parallel worlds.

That is all, have a good day.

Yeah, I haven't heard anything inappropriate and I play A LOT. No music, no random conversation, no trolling, no....... jerks at all. I mean it's been normal glhf, calling targets and stuff.

The quality of the sound is bad though. I would turn it off, but it has been useful on occasion.

Edited by Taffer, 25 March 2015 - 12:18 AM.

[Dahnyol]

Flash Frame, on 24 March 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:

But if we're going to have VOIP, it may as well be a damned good version that's worth using...instead, we got bare bones...

I feel you man, but are you really surprised? PGI tends to have some areas in QA that are lacking. I feel like most content patches have an unfinished feel to it.. Wonder why they don't use the public test realm more often

(See: unpolished maps, collision, quirk balance, map balance, mech models)


And I agree with AThousand, I haven't once heard singing, loud music, yelling, etc. I always see these stories on the threads but I NEVER encounter it. Seriously. The most annoying thing is the quality of VOIP and the trouble with good mic settings/config.

EDIT - And Taffer again, same thing. Where are these trolls...??

Edited by Dahnyol, 25 March 2015 - 12:25 AM.

[Sarlic]

Just had a match in my Atlas on mining collective.

In the end we got a couple of mechs left. We could easily overrun them with my armor. Still had SRMS, but main cannon disabled.

Told them to move up via microphone. "Could you guys please move up with me" "Move up please"

I get shredded. Nobody wanted to move up with me.

This is PUG mentality. This is why i want to kill teammates who are stationary. Biggest irritating factor is not thinking about the team.

Do you even speak english?

Sure we have some good matches on the other hand. But fact remains, i am certainly thinking not to bother playing at EU times, but at US times instead because of obvious reasons.

Exactly. Screw the EU time. Sorry.

Having blasts and actually better teamwork at US times.

Edited by Sarlic, 25 March 2015 - 04:22 AM.

[meteorol]

I can't understand 9 of 10 guys because VOIP quality is just too bad.