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[Skaav]

how in the world is a STK-4N better than a TBR-A?
I really dont get it, please explain it to me...

I own both mechs, i have both mastered, i have multiple hundreds of thousands of excess EXP

Fact is, that my LL Stalker has a 56 dmg Alpha, and goes to around !!! 70% !!! Heat after 1 Alpha...
My TBR has a 61 Alpha, is more than 25 kph faster, has better Hitboxes, has a TC, can shield with his right side and i about 30% smaller than my Stalker, 3 CLPL in one high mounted shoulder... AND my Alpha only brings me to roughly 50%... The only drawback is that I have a slightly lower range on SOME Weapons...

So please, please explain to me how a STK 4N is better than that?

I actually dont even drop my STK anymore, because i feel THUD's are much more effective in a Weight/Performance Ratio...
But that is personal preference

Edited by Skaav, 12 May 2015 - 10:11 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Are you serious? You want meta? Ok, here it goes

6 LL Stalkers (quirked)
7 MPL Thunderbolts (quirked)
Hunchies 4G (quirked)
almost every light IS mech (quirked) including the 8 SPL Firestarter
2 Gauss or 2 AC20 Kingcrabs (quirked)
Raven 3L (quirked)
4 SRM4 Griffen (quirked)
2 AC5 Dragon (quirked)

Do you want me to continue?
No clan mech can get close to those... we only won because we have the most OP weapon on the game, TEAM PLAY

So much falsehood in this post. Only the top two in that list are even worth mentioning. And yes the lights.

Anyone who thinks Stalkers and Thunderbolts are SCR/HBR/TBR/DWF worthy are joking themselves. The rest of the mechs (barring the lights) on the list are worse then Stalkers and Thunderbolts.

How do you guys lie to yourself like this? It is unbelievable.

[Theodor Keppler]

I can't follow this decision in any way but ok: Viel Feind, viel Ehr... let the Archon be proud of us!

damn it... This developers really made me answering in a forum I normaly never do this. :-)

[CrushLibs]

Der Hesse, on 12 May 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

Lol.....got that Gas? You don´t play much Cw! ^^
This guy knows it all. *rofl*

I played 95 CW matches for Tukayyid with 14 over 300 match scores and not one that didn't qualify. How did both of you fair?

[Arkaiko]

Torchfire, on 11 May 2015 - 10:01 PM, said:

Hmmm I'll just throw this out there, wonder what ballistic quirks the mauler is going to receive? My bet is something like

20% ballistic cooldown
20% ballistic velocity
10% ballistic range
12.5% ballistic heat gen
20% ac2 cooldown
20% ac2 velocity
10% ac2 range
12.5% ac2 heat gen

Could probably fit 2 of those in your Cw drop deck eh?

cry more clanner...
sweet tears...

[Skaav]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Are you serious? You want meta? Ok, here it goes



Raven 3L (quirked)

Damn , that 7,5% less Beam Duration really makes that Raven a true beast, pls nerf to 5%, otherwise i dont see the clanners getting out of this....

How can a single person put so much ******** ******** into 1 Post?

[Adamski]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:06 AM, said:

Are you serious? You want meta? Ok, here it goes

6 LL Stalkers (quirked) = Matched by 4 cLPL WHK
7 MPL Thunderbolts (quirked) = Matched by 2 cLPL 6 cSPL SCR
Hunchies 4G (quirked)
almost every light IS mech (quirked) including the 8 SPL Firestarter = About to be matched or beaten by the Arctic Cheetah
2 Gauss or 2 AC20 Kingcrabs (quirked) = Matched or beaten by DWF
Raven 3L (quirked) = Matched or beaten by KFX
4 SRM4 Griffen (quirked) = Matched or beaten by SCR
2 AC5 Dragon (quirked)

Do you want me to continue?
No clan mech can get close to those... we only won because we have the most OP weapon on the game, TEAM PLAY

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

[CrushLibs]

Gas Guzzler, on 12 May 2015 - 10:11 AM, said:

How do you guys lie to yourself like this? It is unbelievable.

I hope that you someday play on the Clan side of CW and see how "unbelievable" it is. You sound like a beaten dog that just got off his chain and can't accept the good life he now has or in this case the OP quirks.

[CrushLibs]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

Its a revaluation!!!!!!!!!!!! IS pilots like Gas & yourself can't win unless its using the easy button. I public drop all the time in a IS mech with nothing but UAC-5s with an XL and no armor and regularly get top kills and damage its a challenge but SUPER FUN.

20 alpha , 208 points of armor , 61.7kph w/speed tweak , and has an XL engine and ITS A BLAST since the UACs get an extra 150m of range , 30% less jams and its not spread damage like my DW.

PGI would you please increase IS DHS to 2.0 from 1.4 and triple the armor and increase engine speeds by 30% too we must make the crap pilots happy.

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

I hope that you someday play on the Clan side of CW and see how "unbelievable" it is. You sound like a beaten dog that just got off his chain and can't accept the good life he now has or in this case the OP quirks.

I plan on it when my unit agrees to (a lot of stubborn members that don't want to bother with Clan mechs for lore reasons).

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Its a revaluation!!!!!!!!!!!! IS pilots like Gas & yourself can't win unless its using the easy button. I public drop all the time in a IS mech with nothing but UAC-5s with an XL and no armor and regularly get top kills and damage its a challenge but SUPER FUN.

20 alpha , 208 points of armor , 61.7kph w/speed tweak , and has an XL engine and ITS A BLAST since the UACs get an extra 150m of range , 30% less jams and its not spread damage like my DW.

PGI would you please increase IS DHS to 2.0 from 1.4 and triple the armor and increase engine speeds by 30% too we must make the crap pilots happy.

Lol yeah.. That's right I need an easy button to win.

[Adamski]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Its a revaluation!!!!!!!!!!!! IS pilots like Gas & yourself can't win unless its using the easy button. I public drop all the time in a IS mech with nothing but UAC-5s with an XL and no armor and regularly get top kills and damage its a challenge but SUPER FUN.

20 alpha , 208 points of armor , 61.7kph w/speed tweak , and has an XL engine and ITS A BLAST since the UACs get an extra 150m of range , 30% less jams and its not spread damage like my DW.

PGI would you please increase IS DHS to 2.0 from 1.4 and triple the armor and increase engine speeds by 30% too we must make the crap pilots happy.

**Hmm... I cant refute anything he says, so I better turn to hyperbole and set up a strawman argument that I CAN deal with.**

Just stop dude.

[Arioch1973]

Not going to discuss this specific topic anymore. Tukkayid basically killed CW for me. Burned out due to repetative gameplay, and now I can only fight other IS. Meeh. Not fun. My solution..... Resistance Pack II, ORDERED. EH. No. Cancel that.. Not going to. No more cashfeed to the insanity. Vote with your wallet. As easy as that.

[DHeth]

A mechanic that reduces Dropdeck tonnage the farther you get from your Capital world would be interesting. Making it harder for invaders and easier for beleaguered defenders.

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

I played 95 CW matches for Tukayyid with 14 over 300 match scores and not one that didn't qualify. How did both of you fair?

Would love to pull this stat for you but I don't know how to find it. I do know that I did 48 matches (IS wait times) and qualified every single time.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

You make me laugh... LOL Matched mechs???? Really? Look at the quircks!!! Please, do!!!

Play CW as clan, please... do it... and i bet you will agree with me!

[CrushLibs]

I did my 50 games by Monday missing 1/2 of Saturday I was playing 20 games a day.

You goto---> http://mwomercs.com/tournaments click PREVIOUS and look at the bottom of the list

http://mwomercs.com/...nts?t=201504tuk that might work too

Edited by CrushLibs, 12 May 2015 - 10:43 AM.

[PhoenixNMGLB]

Personally I think the motivation is just simply this;

There have been a lot of changes since the drop weight was increased for IS (new quirks, IS LL change, CW game mode alterations, new maps, number of zones changed).

It just makes sense to drop the base line to even keel again to see what difference it makes, that's all.

If it doesn't work out it'll probably get changed again.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Pure Clan whine idiocy, the only area where Clans dont completely overshine IS is with Autocannons, and IS pays a HUGE tonnage tax on those, and cant bring XL engines because it turns the mech into a literal glass cannon.

One thing i can agree with you, the stormcrow with 5 SSRM6 with CAB, thats the perfect light mech killer... if you fire in chain fire. Besides that, no clan mech, even the timber wolf, cant match with the IS meta mechs.

There is a reason why clan population dont play CW anymore, playing against the meta is challenging, but enough is enough.

PGI needs to unnerf clan tech, put clan tech more expensive. If the nerf keeps like this, at least give the clan players the option to change engines, jumpjets and all that IS can get. Or drop down the massive quirks of the IS mechs!

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

I did my 50 games by Monday missing 1/2 of Saturday I was playing 20 games a day.

You goto---> http://mwomercs.com/tournaments click PREVIOUS and look at the bottom of the list

http://mwomercs.com/...nts?t=201504tuk that might work too

PM sent, don't need this to be a public e-peen measuring.