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[Adamski]

PhoenixNMGLB, on 12 May 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

Personally I think the motivation is just simply this;

There have been a lot of changes since the drop weight was increased for IS (new quirks, IS LL change, CW game mode alterations, new maps, number of zones changed).

It just makes sense to drop the base line to even keel again to see what difference it makes, that's all.

If it doesn't work out it'll probably get changed again.

That is almost the definition of Scatter Shot or Balance by Dart Board.

Every single CW event that PGI has held has had the Clans come out on top, both Tukayyid and Prove Your Allegiance. Both of these events have taken place after the changes that PGI thinks they need more data on.

There is no reason to be reducing IS combat effectiveness when looking at the data that PGI has provided.

[Juodas Varnas]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:48 AM, said:

There is a reason why clan population dont play CW anymore, playing against the meta is challenging, but enough is enough.

You're troling right?
You've got to be.

Playing against meta... YOU ARE THE META. CLAN LASER VOMIT IS THE META.

[Torchfire Katayama]

Der Hesse, on 12 May 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

Lol.....got that Gas? You don´t play much Cw! ^^
This guy knows it all. *rofl*

That makes it even more pathetic that he think the DW is a viable CW mech.

[Gas Guzzler]

Torchfire, on 12 May 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

That makes it even more pathetic that he think the DW is a viable CW mech.

Please quote where I said that.

I said it was competitive in comp drops..

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 12 May 2015 - 10:56 AM.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 10:49 AM, said:

That is almost the definition of Scatter Shot or Balance by Dart Board.

Every single CW event that PGI has held has had the Clans come out on top, both Tukayyid and Prove Your Allegiance. Both of these events have taken place after the changes that PGI thinks they need more data on.

There is no reason to be reducing IS combat effectiveness when looking at the data that PGI has provided.

And if you look at the statistics, youll see that, besides clan winning more, the IS killed more enemy mechs and did the most damage. How did the clans won? Simple, teamplay... and also 3 of the most competitive teams joined.
So, what makes one win in this game? Teamplay!!! Now that tukayid is over, they went back to IS. Why? Because their meta mechs are IS!
Listen, competitive teams only go for the meta, of any game! Dont care about my opinion nor yours, they care about winning and fighting against other comp teams. So they use what is meta, and that is IS mechs. As simple as that

[Jack Spade Ward]

Juodas Varnas, on 12 May 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

You're troling right?
You've got to be.

Playing against meta... YOU ARE THE META. CLAN LASER VOMIT IS THE META.

Clan inst the meta, but the only competitive build that can be put on a Timber is a laser vomit build. That said, what other clan mechs you see as meta? And beleive me, timbers arent quirked for lasers like...i dont know... the thunderbolt? The Stalker? The firestarter?
Teamplay wins games. Even agaisnt your meta mechs!

[Adamski]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:48 AM, said:

One thing i can agree with you, the stormcrow with 5 SSRM6 with CAB, thats the perfect light mech killer... if you fire in chain fire. Besides that, no clan mech, even the timber wolf, cant match with the IS meta mechs.

There is a reason why clan population dont play CW anymore, playing against the meta is challenging, but enough is enough.

PGI needs to unnerf clan tech, put clan tech more expensive. If the nerf keeps like this, at least give the clan players the option to change engines, jumpjets and all that IS can get. Or drop down the massive quirks of the IS mechs!

Dude, just stop.

Pull up Smurfy mechlab, and build an IS Meta Mech
Pull up the quirk list
Apply the listed quirks to the chassis DPS stats
You now have the quirked DPS
Apply the listed quirks to the weapon base range
You now have the quirked range

Now build a Clan Meta Mech
You now have a mech that can match the IS Meta Mech

Now you can stop hyperventilating on the forums about how OP the IS super quirks are.

[Juodas Varnas]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

Clan inst the meta, but the only competitive build that can be put on a Timber is a laser vomit build. That said, what other clan mechs you see as meta? And beleive me, timbers arent quirked for lasers like...i dont know... the thunderbolt? The Stalker? The firestarter?
Teamplay wins games. Even agaisnt your meta mechs!

You should stop licking the lead based paint you paint your mechs. It's affecting your brains, or whatever left of them.
Timbers are still the top mechs in-game even when compared to quirked IS mechs

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 12 May 2015 - 11:02 AM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

Clan inst the meta, but the only competitive build that can be put on a Timber is a laser vomit build. That said, what other clan mechs you see as meta? And beleive me, timbers arent quirked for lasers like...i dont know... the thunderbolt? The Stalker? The firestarter?
Teamplay wins games. Even agaisnt your meta mechs!

That is because the Timber Wolf doesn't need quirks to be competitive. Quirks are in the game because of the Timber Wolf lol.

Oh you forgot the ER ML Gauss build, that one is very good.

[Adamski]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 10:57 AM, said:

And if you look at the statistics, youll see that, besides clan winning more, the IS killed more enemy mechs and did the most damage. How did the clans won? Simple, teamplay... and also 3 of the most competitive teams joined.
So, what makes one win in this game? Teamplay!!! Now that tukayid is over, they went back to IS. Why? Because their meta mechs are IS!
Listen, competitive teams only go for the meta, of any game! Dont care about my opinion nor yours, they care about winning and fighting against other comp teams. So they use what is meta, and that is IS mechs. As simple as that

ARE YOU ******* SERIOUS?!?!

Huge competitive event, and all the competitive teams go Clan for best chances of winning and improving their stats.

After the event, they go back to IS for a break from the Clans.

[Dragomir Kies]

Lol 18 pages of whining, Awesome, in just few hours Respect

[Molossian Dog]

Newsflash, PGI.

This is not the problem.
Nor is it a solution.

It is just stupid. You are fooling yourselves if you think this will make a difference.

[CrushLibs]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 11:01 AM, said:

Pull up Smurfy mechlab, and build an IS Meta Mech
Pull up the quirk list
Apply the listed quirks to the chassis DPS stats
You now have the quirked DPS
Apply the listed quirks to the weapon base range
You now have the quirked range

Now build a Clan Meta Mech
You now have a mech that can match the IS Meta Mech

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fc18ce10e999aeb

Heat Generation 9.15

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5028a0f2434393a

Heat Generation 9.88 - 20% = 7.904

So 9.15 = 7.904 ???? don't think so TIM

[CrushLibs]

Gas Guzzler, on 12 May 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

That is because the Timber Wolf doesn't need quirks to be competitive. Quirks are in the game because of the Timber Wolf lol.

Oh you forgot the ER ML Gauss build, that one is very good.

Jesus you are noob or think like one hard to tell.

So the DW is competitive in CW ,, OK

Now the KC needs 25% more armor due to the TW??
The Locust needs 50% more armor due to the TW??
The DRG 1N needs 67% faster cooldown due to TW ??

I can't believe one mech made PGI do 100s of quirks wow I would think they would nerf the TW oh wait they DID.

[Adamski]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 11:17 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fc18ce10e999aeb

Heat Generation 9.15

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5028a0f2434393a

Heat Generation 9.88 - 20% = 7.904

So 9.15 = 7.904 ???? don't think so TIM

How ******* dumb are you? The WHK generates 15% more heat, but has 28 DHS compared to the STK 20, which is a 40% increase in dissipation.

[Earlito]

Oh thanks a bunch! Good thing that some players bought mechs for the 250 dropdeck and are getting kicked in the b*tt right now...
Thanks a bunch PGI.

[Jack Spade Ward]

Juodas Varnas, on 12 May 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

You should stop licking the lead based paint you paint your mechs. It's affecting your brains, or whatever left of them.
Timbers are still the top mechs in-game even when compared to quirked IS mechs

I guess youre a cry baby IS fan boy to answer me like that...
In case you dont know, clan tech is suposed to be better, much better!

[Gas Guzzler]

CrushLibs, on 12 May 2015 - 11:22 AM, said:

Jesus you are noob or think like one hard to tell.

So the DW is competitive in CW ,, OK

Now the KC needs 25% more armor due to the TW??
The Locust needs 50% more armor due to the TW??
The DRG 1N needs 67% faster cooldown due to TW ??

I can't believe one mech made PGI do 100s of quirks wow I would think they would nerf the TW oh wait they DID.

I was addressing the Timber Wolf because that is what he said.

Are you really resorting to personal insults now?

I never said DW is competitive in CW. Nice reading comprehension.

Quirks are here to balance inferior mechs with superior Mechs LIKE the Timber Wolf. This was in response to someone crying about the TBR not getting quirks.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 12 May 2015 - 11:36 AM.

[Adamski]

Spadejack, on 12 May 2015 - 11:32 AM, said:

I guess youre a cry baby IS fan boy to answer me like that...
In case you dont know, clan tech is suposed to be better, much better!

And IS is supposed to outnumber the clans 4 to 1

[CrushLibs]

Adamski, on 12 May 2015 - 11:27 AM, said:

How ******* dumb are you? The WHK generates 15% more heat, but has 28 DHS compared to the STK 20, which is a 40% increase in dissipation.

There is a 24% not 40% increase in heat dissipation 3.91 vs 5.20 heat/s DHS is 1.4 not 2.0 Duh

Gas Guzzler, on 12 May 2015 - 11:34 AM, said:

I was addressing the Timber Wolf because that is what he said.

Are you really resorting to personal insults now?

I never said DW is competitive in CW. Nice reading comprehension.

Quirks are here to balance inferior mechs with superior Mechs LIKE the Timber Wolf. This was in response to someone crying about the TBR not getting quirks.

AWWWW nope the TBR was Nerfed when they locked JJs and increased heat on clan weapons.

Just sounded noobish which according to your friends you are an experienced player sorry was just teasing you didn't mean anything personal sorry if it came off poorly this is the internet.